Why Use Gas? Use Water!!.

[ZHAK]

Tsikoteers interested to talk about WATER FUELED CAR ( Daniel Dingle ) UNITE!!! Lets Support our very Own Daniel Dingle On his project..... He used tap water on his 1600 toyota corolla GLi....And almost half of the World are interested on his invention.. Wonder how he do it? Whats the procedure? Is it Pure water? Lets Share Our knowledge guys..tnx..

Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVhXrvCCILw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9ONP-kOMXU

tnx

[mazdamazda]

He's just a plain scam artist... he's using a secret gasoline tank to power his Corolla... this was put to rest by Mr. Federico Pascual 7 years ago:

Dingel’s water-powered
car offered for AFP use

By Federico D. Pascual Jr.

FDPascual Jr.HERE we go again!

We finally saw again inventor Daniel D. Dingel after about a year of having sort of drifted away from each other. He was at the ABS-CBN trying to win converts to his hydrocar that, according to his fantastic claim, runs on nothing but water!

Dingel was being interviewed in the "Bantay Kalikasan" program over DZMM by media environmentalist Bong Faustino together with Rudy Lantano, who was discussing on phone patch his concoction of gasoline mixed with alcohol to make it cheaper and environment-friendly.

With the way Dingel and his troupe reacted when I walked into the DZMM booth, I doubt if he had any inkling that he was to see my shadow again that day -- particularly at a time when he is making a sales pitch.

Without telling him, Bong invited me to sit with Dingel, I sensed, to balance his presentation.

* * *

WITH the previous program "Jeepney ni Erap" anchored by Korina Sanchez having eaten into Bong’s time slot and with his loads of ads to shoot down the listener’s ear, I lost no time in driving home my main point.

Sitting across the desk from Dingel, I reiterated my old challenge to him: If it is true that his car runs on nothing but water, let’s prove it to the whole world by driving it in a supervised 1,000-kilometer demonstration cruise up and down the South Luzon Expressway, from Magallanes to Calamba and back.

I made this suggestion last year, because of lingering suspicion that Dingel’s red Toyota Corolla (UGA 222) still secretly uses gasoline aside from his electrolysis gadget that produces hydrogen gas to feed into his engine.

Even granting it has a secret gas tank, the gasoline (or whatever extra fuel it is) would run out in 1,000 kilometers and reduce the car to exclusive dependence on the water fuel used by Dingel’s invention.

* * *

SUCH suspicion of a secret extra fuel is not without basis. At some demonstrations, some engineers checked the exhaust and sniffed the smoke coming out. It smelled of gasoline fumes!

At the Department of Science and Technology, scientists went beyond their noses and actually subjected the emission to scientific tests. They reported traces of carbon oxides, the type one would find in burned gasoline.

Water is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen, nothing more, nothing less. Where did the carbon oxides (oxidized or burned carbon) come from?

To cut short the endless debate about a secret gas tank, we asked Dingel last year, and we repeated the suggested yesterday on the air, that we take the car on a 1,000-km run, continuously feeding it nothing but water.

* * *

DINGEL refused, worrying aloud about the monumental security problem involved in having him and the monitors driving up and down the expressway exposed to the world.

Maybe he had a point. Although he is thousands of miles from Sulu, who knows the naughty Abu Sayyaf might just plant a land mind in his tracks nga naman! Or some Lost Command might hijack him and his precious invention!

At that point I was hoping the gods of ABS-CBN would come rushing through the door to assure Dingel that if he would agree to such a road test, they would guarantee his safety and that of his invention.

* * *

IF I owned ABS-CBN, I would make such an offer to settle the issue once and for all.

Imagine the media scoop, the spectacle: Dingel’s red hydrocar cruising down the expressway accompanied by a mean-looking security phalanx and the network’s Radyo Patrol reporting live a kilometer-per-kilometer report on the progress of the road test.

President Estrada, besieged as he is with price issues, would do well to order the presidential security unit to help protect the car that might yet free us from the clutches of the oil cartel. During the run, it won’t hurt if Press Secretary Dong Puno, an ABS-CBN alumnus, slips in a Dingel paragraph or two in his news briefing.

The other media won’t be able to ignore the event. Advertisers would scramble to get into the bandwagon. Mother Lily might sign a contract for exclusive rights to the life story of Dingel. The possibilities are endless!

* * *

BUT Bong Faustino does not own ABS-CBN and could not commit, right then and there, the attention and the resources of the giant network. So Dingel got away, again, with that lame excuse of lack of security.

The truth is that Dingel never looked like he had a security problem. During those times when he would still talk to me because I was writing about him and his gadget, we would meet at the McDonald’s at BF Homes in Parañaque and chat endlessly while his car is parked blatantly in front of the burgerhouse.

On some occasions, we would even leave his car in the McDo parking lot and use my van to go some place. We had no guard for the car or for his person. Nobody touched his Corolla.

The car is an easy target, even for amateurs. It has markings all over its body announcing that it is Dingel’s water-powered car.

When I saw the car again yesterday at ABS-CBN, it was still the same demo unit. And Dingel was still the same salesman with the same spiel about fantastic dollar offers from some foreign entities scrambling to get first crack at his revolutionary invention.

* * *

ASIDE from one ever faithful sidekick whose name I cannot now recall, there is now a small coterie of new converts who look like businessmen smelling of snake oil.

While Dingel was demonstrating his hydrogen-loaded popgun shooting a canister with a loud bang into the air, one of his new devotees told us that their group has convinced somebody in Malacañang, somebody surnamed De Guzman, to have the armed forces adopt the Dingel invention into their motor vehicles and navy craft.

As a taxpayer, I should have butted in with "Teka muna!" -- but what the heck. If our countrymen cannot have peace, jobs and food, they can use some entertainment.

* * *

WHILE Dingel was demonstrating his hydrogen popgun in the ABS-CBN parking lot, this businessman who told me about the armed forces deal was trying to explain to me how the hydrocar works.

I did not have the heart to tell him that I’ve been there before him. But when he kept referring to Dingel’s device as a "nuclear reactor," I simply had to react.

I pointedly told him that the demo car did not have a nuclear reactor. I had to explain to him what a nuclear reactor was and that Dingel’s contraption did not touch the nuclei of the hydrogen and the oxygen taken from the water.

This is a simple case of electrolysis, I said, the type of experiment we did in high school science class. An electric current is passed through the water and the water is broken up into its hydrogen and oxygen components.

* * *

IN the case of Dingel, he feeds the resulting hydrogen and oxygen into the combustion chamber of the retooled Toyota engine. With the spark plugs triggered, the gaseous mixture explodes, sending the pistons moving and the shafts turning as in a conventional car.

The difference is that instead of the vaporized gasoline-air mixture in a regular car, Dingel uses hydrogen with traces of oxygen. He gets the explosive hydrogen and the combustible oxygen directly from the electrolysis done with his device.

In many similar experiments and inventions in Europe and the United States, they first store the hydrogen gas generated and feed it into the engine as needed. Dingel pipes it directly from the electrolysis process into the engine without storing it first.

* * *

ONE of the sources of doubt on the part of DOST scientists is Dingel’s using an ordinary 12-volt car battery to initiate and continue the process of generating hydrogen gas under the hood.

Dingel displays a certification that he uses only 5 amperes to do that, whereas many incredulous engineers say we need more than a thousand times that to accomplish the same work.

They also cite the law of thermodynamics saying in effect that we cannot create matter or energy. They cannot accept that Dingel, with an input of only 12 volts, can generate an output of enormous energy to run a regular combustion engine. How did he create that much energy, they ask.

That’s when they slip in the suggestion that he is probably also using gasoline from a secret tank.

* * *

THIS brings us back to our ultimate test: Let’s just run the car for 1,000 kms. on nothing but water, stopping briefly every 100 kilometers to check its vital signs. If there is some other fuel secretly being fed into it, as its critics allege, this hidden fuel should run out in 1,000 kms.

The big question is why Dingel is scared of a public test that will, theoretically, prove precisely his point that it’s just water running his car.

[mark_t]

He's just a plain scam artist... he's using a secret gasoline tank to power his Corolla... this was put to rest by Mr. Federico Pascual 7 years ago:

NO! I want a tour of Luzon, if our cyclist can do it so should his corolla.

[LexTer]

what's wrong with his invention ba? bakit di ito suportahan ng gobyerno? sayang ito.

[GerardTagayty]

it actually sounded too good to be true when it first came out... say yah ok he was able to start the electrolysis process in the car... pero i dont think it can continously supply the engine with hydrogen? tama ba? i guess the concept was great... but the approach?? eeee??? nil....

[ZHAK]

Bros tnx for replying...mazdamazda tnx for your quote..Well we really don't know what daniel dingle invention is made of..But a part of me still have faith on this project. I think or in my own opinion this invention is no fake. I been researching this invention a couple of times..GerardTagayty your right , a 12v battery cant supply enough energy for electrolysis. But there is 1 thing daniel dingle did..He convert tap water to heavy water ( deuterium oxide D2O ) which contains 2 part of every part of hydrogen on water (H2O)..Thats his secret...The prob is how to convert H2O to D2O?..

[yebo]

...But there is 1 thing daniel dingle did..He convert tap water to heavy water ( deuterium oxide D2O ) which contains 2 part of every part of hydrogen on water (H2O)..Thats his secret...The prob is how to convert H2O to D2O?..

do you have any idea what you are talking about? convert ordinary hydrogen to deuterium?!!!! ordinary hydrogen has 1 proton and 1 electron. deuterium, an isotope of hydrogen, has 1 proton, 1 neutron and 1 electron. is dingle God that he can also CREATE matter?

btw, ordinary hydrogen chemically uniting with any oxidant will have the same energy value as deuterium chemically uniting with the same oxidant. it does not matter if it is ordinary hydrogen, deuterium or even tritium that unites with oxygen, the energy equation is the same. it is true that deuterium is the source of energy of the sun and the stars, but that reaction is a NUCLEAR FUSSION, not a chemical reaction. chemical reactions are very much different from a nuclear reaction (whether it be a fission or fussion reaction).

i suggest you take time to read some books on physics and chemistry so you will at least know some basics about why this particular invention has not been taken seriously by anyone. this is also for you to not be so easily duped by scammers like mr. dingle! mr. dingle's "water-powered car" is a scam. everyone knows about that lie for 3 decades already. it's such a laugh that there are still people who believe that liar.

[ghosthunter]

He convert tap water to heavy water ( deuterium oxide D2O ) which contains 2 part of every part of hydrogen on water (H2O)..Thats his secret...The prob is how to convert H2O to D2O?..

Do you even know what "Deuterium" is?

You do not convert ordinary water to heavy water. Heavy water is naturally present in water but at very very low concentrations. You need to use a heavy water distillation process to separate it from the rest of the ordinary water. If you can actually make heavy water, the Nazis would have won the war.

[CoDer]

OT:

Norwegian heavy water sabotage

Norwegian heavy water sabotage.
The Norwegian heavy water sabotage was a series of actions taken by Norwegian saboteurs during World War II to prevent the German nuclear energy project from acquiring heavy water which could be used to produce nuclear weapons.

Between 1942 and 1944 a sequence of sabotage actions by the Norwegian resistance movement, as well as Allied bombing, ensured the destruction of the plant and the loss of the heavy water produced. These operations — codenamed "Freshman", "Grouse" and "Gunnerside" — finally managed to knock the plant out of production in early 1943, basically ending the German research.

The raid was later dubbed by the British SOE as the most successful act of sabotage in all of World War II.

Heavy water production

Heavy-water production is a byproduct of ammonia fertilizer production. Hydrogen was, at the time, mainly produced by electrolysis of water.[2] The Haber Process is then used, reacting the hydrogen with nitrogen from air to produce ammonia. At the time, Europe's major supply of ammonia came from the Norwegian Vemork hydroelectric plant, run by Norsk Hydro, near Rjukan in the Telemark region.

The technology is straightforward. Heavy water (D2O) is separated from regular water by electrolysis because the difference in mass between the two hydrogen isotopes translates into a slight difference in the speed at which the reaction proceeds. To produce pure heavy water by electrolysis requires a large cascade of electrolysis chambers, and consumes large amounts of power. Since the production of hydrogen relied on electrolysis at Vemork, heavy water was a routine byproduct.

Hans Suess was a German advisor to the production of heavy water. Suess had assessed the Rjukan plant as being incapable of producing militarily useful quantities of heavy water in less than five years at its then current capacity.

[Chip]

Dingle has invented a perpetual motion machine!!! A Filipino has broken the laws of the universe!!! Eat that einsten!

[ZHAK]

Chip: AMEN to that BRO!!

[///MPower]

Chip: AMEN to that BRO!!

This is my favorite part in the whole thread. Talk about completely missing the sarcasm. Honestly, though, the notion of a water-powered car is hilarious, even if I do feel bad that people without scientific background are easily duped by snake oil salesman like these.

And in case it hasn't already been made clear: A water powered car is a perpetual motion machine. Perpetual motion does not exist.

[creepy]

I wish people would stop being scammed by this. But I guess that's why there are still so many pyramid schemes that still thrive.

If the "invention" actually works and he can convincingly prove it, Dingel wouldn't need government support. Every energy company would come knocking on his door.

But of course he'll say that he's too nationalistic to sell/license his idea to a foreign company.

Sigh.

[GerardTagayty]

uhmmm *insert sarcasm here* lol

[ZHAK]

MAIN PROBLEM: POOR Government support to new inventions..

[mr carman]

Speaking of water as a fuel.
Has anyone read the new Ford book - Ford and the American Dream by Clifton Lambreth - www.thefordbook.com. This is a great story of what happened to the american auto industry.

[mazdamazda]

Here'a a more believable research:

source: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0222180945.htm

New Hydrogen Fuel System Promises A New Generation Of Renewable Energy

Science Daily — Northern Nevada energy consumers can be excused if they have a sense of "sticker shock" when their power bills come due following the holiday season. Or, that they have a feeling of powerlessness as the price of gasoline climbs to $3 per gallon.

They wonder: will the days of the $1 tank of gas ever return?

Thanks to research done by a University of Nevada, Reno professor in the area of hydrogen energy generation, soaring power bills could become a thing of the past. And, finding a power source for your car that costs as little as $1 per gallon could also soon become a welcome reality.

Manoranjan Misra, professor of materials science and engineering, recently received a $3 million research grant from the U.S. Department of Energy to continue his groundbreaking work in various forms of renewable energy. Misra's current project focuses on harnessing photoactive material from the sun to generate hydrogen. Hydrogen is one of the cleanest forms of energy, and studies have shown that it is 33 percent more efficient than liquid fuels. Northern Nevada, with its uncommonly sunny weather -- with more than 300 sunny days per year -- could become the perfect hub to generate hydrogen energy, according to Misra.

"We can utilize this great energy resource to our advantage to produce hydrogen," Misra said. "We are uniquely positioned in Northern Nevada, as the average energy from the sun is around one kilowatt per square meter area. In Reno it is much higher than that. Because it is so bright and sunny here in Reno, we have in many ways the perfect location for photo-hydrogen generation."

Misra and his research team have created a new hydrogen material that has more than a billion nanotubes, which gives it excellent potential to produce hydrogen from another abundant resource -- water. Misra's small-scale hydrogen generation system, located in the Laxalt Mineral Research Building, produces the material through an electrochemical process from applied ultrasonic waves.

"We are currently using simulated solar light in the lab," Misra said, "and we are finding our system to be a good and robust way to facilitate the movement of electrons by the incident light to produce hydrogen from water." By the end of the decade, Misra estimates that the system could grow to a more industrial size scale, which would allow power companies to produce hydrogen that could be used to power automobiles or power your home. The new power source is extremely cost-effective, Misra says.

"What do we pay now for a tank of gas? A little less than three dollars per gallon? The equivalent for hydrogen generation might be something more along the lines of $1 per gallon to produce," Misra says. "Plus, hydrogen is much more friendly to the environment. Given the weather in Northern Nevada, where on most days we have 10 to 15 percent more sunlight than in other areas of the country, the future of this type of this energy is limitless."