What if? ALL GAS-FED cars were given a DIESEL VERSION? Bibilhin niyo o hindi?

[XTO]

for diesel fed cars. i love the smell of diesel.

[Bogeyman]

I'm all for it, basta 4D56 or 4M41.

For now, refining the quality of our diesel fuel to Euro levels will also raise prices far beyond the reach of everyone but the filthy rich, defeating the purpose of switching to diesel. What we need are good oil burners that are not easily susceptible to impurities in local diesel fuel, sort of a temporary workaround until cleaner diesel can be achieved.

[niky]

True. Plus, take note of the fact that a non-luxury diesel version of a car with comparable horsepower to the gas version usually costs 70,000 - 100,000 pesos (or more) more than its gas fed counterpart. Diesels with less horsepower, similar displacement and no turbos or smaller turbos cost about 30,000-50,000 more.

This hit me in the face when I went to look at the CRDi Hyundai Accent. It's a swell little car, 1.5 Turbodiesel, 110 hp. But the sticker price... 748k! More than a fully loaded Vios or City, but without airbags or ABS (for that much you can option up these features on the gas models), and with very hard and tacky plastics in the interior.

I still think it's a swell little car, and am waiting for a test drive, but the interior and features are a disappointment for the price.

You can't always have your cake and eat it.

But if they were to release the 2.0 TDi version of the Focus here (135 hp, mod-chips take it past 160!), heck, I'd buy it, no matter what the cost... at least the interior on the Focus looks and feels expensive.

[theveed]

locally? Not really, diesel fuels locally can't fully utilize the pros of CRD and the cost of diesel isn't that much less than gas...

[Autobeat]

For compacts and sedans, I'd still prefer gas.

[umzzzzz]

pangit ksi quality ng diesel sa tin eh...

[momoyster]

not on sports cars. but yes, i'd definitely consider a diesel option regarding other vehicles

[cardo]

Diesel sports cars? Check this out.

650bhp direct-injection twin-turbo V12 diesel engine 2006 Audi Lemans Racer

811lb ft of torque? Holy cow! It can haul the whole planet hehhe



The concept of diesel sports cars received a major boost with Audi's recent announcement that its 2006 Le Mans challenger will be powered by a 650bhp direct-injection twin-turbo V12 diesel engine.

Called the R10, the car was launched last month in Paris, where seven-time Le Mans winner Tom Kristensen drove it from the Eiffel Tower to the other side of the Seine.

The 5.5-litre TDI powerplant develops 811lb ft of torque and its useful powerband lies between 3000 and 5000rpm. The biggest advantage of the engine is, of course, fuel economy. Audi reckons the R10 will get one or two more full laps of Le Mans from a tank of fuel than the petrol-powered R8.

This advantage could well be extended further in the advent of a safety car or a wet race.

A racing sequential gearbox will be used instead of a DSG system, but the diesel engine does give the opportunity for fewer gears.

Perhaps in a bid to prevent any 'taxi' or 'truck' jibes before they're made, Audi has fitted the R10's exhaust system with particulate traps to cut down on smoke. At the launch event, the only time it was possible to distinguish a diesel clatter from the V12 was as it shut down - the rest of the time it sounded deep and revved aggressively.

Ironically, Kristensen said the most difficult thing about driving the R10 is the lack of engine noise. In third gear and above, the engine note is drowned out by wind noise, which makes for a very unusual and eerie driving experience, particularly in the case of oversteer where you would expect to be alerted by a flare of revs.

All Le Mans cars have to run on pump fuel, so Shell is providing a diesel version of Optimax for the R10. V-Power Diesel, as it's known in Europe, is currently only on sale in five countries, but when evo spoke to Shell's global vice president, Bruce Rosengarten, he said that it is spreading and should be in the UK within two years.

Blending synthetic high-cetane GTL (gas-to-liquid) fuel with normal diesel, V-Power helps to clean engine injectors and provide a much wider powerband than standard derv.

Based on Audi's supremely successful R8 - five Le Mans wins in the last six years and 77 starts without engine failure - the derv-drinking R10 features a longer wheelbase (comparable with an Audi Q7), in an effort to help the chassis cope with the heavier engine, and also gets wider front tyres.

Testing of the R10 is already underway, and the car has its first race at the Sebring 12 Hours in March before heading for the 24-hour French classic in June. It should be an interesting event because Porsche returns officially to Le Mans this year with its RS Spyder. The Spyder blew away its Le Mans Prototype 2 opposition in its debut race at Laguna Seca last October and was close to the pace of the LMP1 cars.

Audi isn't the first outfit to contemplate diesel power for Le Mans. In 2004, Taurus Motorsport ran a Lola-Caterpillar prototype, powered by a Mountune-prepared V10 based on the VW Touareg unit, producing 530bhp and 737lb ft of torque. The car was quick, economical and quiet, but didn't last the distance. Peugeot also has a turbodiesel-powered endurance racer in development, but that won't make its competition debut until 2007.



source Yahoo.com - cars and edmunds.com

[IMm29]

If the diesel's power and price are in the range of the gas version, game!

[jim]

ako game din basta magkaroon lang ng diesel rotary engine :drool:

[jim]

that R10 is a must see. nice one!

[mazdamazda]

only in an SUV - so that you'll can really use all that available torque.