totoo ba tong 2008 fuel economy run ng Department Of Energy?

[jru120]

http://www.doe.gov.ph/news/results%2...nomy%20run.htm

[mbeige]

Sounds realistic, pero ang mahirap dyan is determining when they did that survey. Since the price of fuel fluctuates, it must be stated when those figures were calculated.

However, the information is useless unless it specifies at what speed these numbers were computed from. Dapat the fuel consumption figures should indicate what speed and engine RPM the vehicle is driven at to ascertain optimum fuel economy.

[Burai]

they have done it pero hindi mukang kapani paniwala kasi nagbabago estimation base sa pagddrive ng driver at situation ng paligid niya kung traffic ba or hindi. kulang proof, evidence o pang suporta sa testimonya nila
i just checked the chart, yung iba talaga dun masasabi kong "parang malabo" just like dun sa mazda3 1.6.
to make this whole post short para manahimik na ko, ang masasabi ko is: hindi accurate yang gawa nila at kulang sa details

[ghosthunter]

The results of the DOE economy run must be taken with the proverbial grain of salt because the economy run was done (October 2008) during the dead of night (10pm to the following morning) from Manila to Subic (not sure if I remembered it correctly). And since this was an "official" event, it came complete with escorts, etc.

Speeds for such events are usually close to 60kph to maximize speed at the lowest engine RPM.

For a more realistic FC rating of the vehicles, check C! magazine's rear section where they list all of the locally available car models including other specs and price.

[fourtheboys96]

The results of the DOE economy run must be taken with the proverbial grain of salt because the economy run was done (October 2008) during the dead of night (10pm to the following morning) from Manila to Subic (not sure if I remembered it correctly). And since this was an "official" event, it came complete with escorts, etc.

Speeds for such events are usually close to 60kph to maximize speed at the lowest engine RPM.

For a more realistic FC rating of the vehicles, check C! magazine's rear section where they list all of the locally available car models including other specs and price.

wow thanks! i was thinking of using that info on my research since its is from DOE. but the figures were just very optimistic. will check C! for some realistic figures.

[kinyo]

The C! magazine's list says Hyundai Accent fc is at 38km/li ... which is turning out to be an unreliable data. Owners only manage to come close to half of the figure (as in the DOE run).

Don't rely on fuel economy runs. Just take them as a hint. Yes, they could tell you which car could be more economical but the data is usually the "can-you-beat-this" figure.

Check out real owners' experiences because that is what you will experience.

[jru120]

akala ko kasi binase lang nila sa sales agent ng car company or kaya sa brochure ng car sa mga tsikoteers na may ride sa listahan, magcomment naman kayo

[ghosthunter]

akala ko kasi binase lang nila sa sales agent ng car company or kaya sa brochure ng car sa mga tsikoteers na may ride sa listahan, magcomment naman kayo

No, the DOE eco run was actually done in the wee hours of the night to the next day. The big eye bags of all the sales reps and company drivers I saw on the morning after can attest to that.

[Burai]

No, the DOE eco run was actually done in the wee hours of the night to the next day. The big eye bags of all the sales reps and company drivers I saw on the morning after can attest to that.

sana ang ginawa na lang bilang basehan was a daily heavy traffic or pure city driving scenario.. kasi sa pagkakaalam ko sa ibang test nila was done sa highway eh ang pagddrive halos sa highway eh mas matipid kesa sa city driving.
kung mga pro ang tititig sa ganung basehan, mas alam nila ang magiging capabilities/efficiency nun sa highway driving kahit na ba hindi lagi ganun or fixed ang consumption niya sa heavy traffic/city driving. kung entry level ang tititig sa ganung basehan, aakalain nila eh iba or aakalain nila na hindi matipid sa gas ang ganitong sasakyan. pero sadly hindi lahat ng drivers eh pro

[Blizzard]

sana nga ginawa nila under normal street scenario, yung tipong traffic minsan, minsan hindi..disregarding sa style na rin ng pag drive ng nagmamaneho..
ang ginawa kasi nila, controled environment sila. no traffic, with escorts, then umaga pa, malamig. diba namamatay aircon pag malamig na? so menos ka sa consumption ng gas.
pag matipid ng konti sa city driving, pano pa kaya sa highway.
just my opinion.

[Good Mechanic]

[SIZE=3]The 2008 DOE Fuel Economy Run for Passenger Cars, SUVs, MPVs, and Pick-ups is for baseline, comparison and indicator. [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]Scientific or laboratory test are very conservative.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]Thanks DOE!!![/SIZE]

[light2light]

Fuel economy runs of this method is not accurate. the only way to have a scientific data is to have the engine be tested at UP-VRTL where the engine is dyno tested and at the same time flowmeters are installed on the vehicle. This test is not cheap - P25K for one vehicle. This includes smoke/emission tests.

[fourtheboys96]

Fuel economy runs of this method is not accurate. the only way to have a scientific data is to have the engine be tested at UP-VRTL where the engine is dyno tested and at the same time flowmeters are installed on the vehicle. This test is not cheap - P25K for one vehicle. This includes smoke/emission tests.

25K for a car manufacturer is actually cheap. if they have 100 models, that is just Php2.5M (right???)

my gulay, dapat institutionalize ng ng gobyerno ang fuel economy rating.

hindi nga kasi accurate yang "eco-run" na yan.

[111prez]

average speed of 40kph in metro manila?

:hysterical:

[vh3r]

60kph nga sa QC hirap na hirap akong magpatakbo sa kotse ko eh dahil primera and segunda lang yung speed na yun.

[jut703]

60kph nga sa QC hirap na hirap akong magpatakbo sa kotse ko eh dahil primera and segunda lang yung speed na yun.

Lakas mo siguro sa gas. 60 kph on 2nd gear?