totoo ba tong 2008 fuel economy run ng Department Of Energy?

[jru120]

http://www.doe.gov.ph/news/results%2...nomy%20run.htm

[mbeige]

Sounds realistic, pero ang mahirap dyan is determining when they did that survey. Since the price of fuel fluctuates, it must be stated when those figures were calculated.

However, the information is useless unless it specifies at what speed these numbers were computed from. Dapat the fuel consumption figures should indicate what speed and engine RPM the vehicle is driven at to ascertain optimum fuel economy.

[Burai]

they have done it pero hindi mukang kapani paniwala kasi nagbabago estimation base sa pagddrive ng driver at situation ng paligid niya kung traffic ba or hindi. kulang proof, evidence o pang suporta sa testimonya nila
i just checked the chart, yung iba talaga dun masasabi kong "parang malabo" just like dun sa mazda3 1.6.
to make this whole post short para manahimik na ko, ang masasabi ko is: hindi accurate yang gawa nila at kulang sa details

[ghosthunter]

The results of the DOE economy run must be taken with the proverbial grain of salt because the economy run was done (October 2008) during the dead of night (10pm to the following morning) from Manila to Subic (not sure if I remembered it correctly). And since this was an "official" event, it came complete with escorts, etc.

Speeds for such events are usually close to 60kph to maximize speed at the lowest engine RPM.

For a more realistic FC rating of the vehicles, check C! magazine's rear section where they list all of the locally available car models including other specs and price.

[fourtheboys96]

The results of the DOE economy run must be taken with the proverbial grain of salt because the economy run was done (October 2008) during the dead of night (10pm to the following morning) from Manila to Subic (not sure if I remembered it correctly). And since this was an "official" event, it came complete with escorts, etc.

Speeds for such events are usually close to 60kph to maximize speed at the lowest engine RPM.

For a more realistic FC rating of the vehicles, check C! magazine's rear section where they list all of the locally available car models including other specs and price.

wow thanks! i was thinking of using that info on my research since its is from DOE. but the figures were just very optimistic. will check C! for some realistic figures.

[kinyo]

The C! magazine's list says Hyundai Accent fc is at 38km/li ... which is turning out to be an unreliable data. Owners only manage to come close to half of the figure (as in the DOE run).

Don't rely on fuel economy runs. Just take them as a hint. Yes, they could tell you which car could be more economical but the data is usually the "can-you-beat-this" figure.

Check out real owners' experiences because that is what you will experience.

[actor21]

what's a C"! magazine?

[ghosthunter]

The C! magazine's list says Hyundai Accent fc is at 38km/li ... which is turning out to be an unreliable data. Owners only manage to come close to half of the figure (as in the DOE run).

Don't rely on fuel economy runs. Just take them as a hint. Yes, they could tell you which car could be more economical but the data is usually the "can-you-beat-this" figure.

The Hyundai Accent fc figure aside, the FC rated per car are pretty good indicators of the type of relative FC you would get with the cars listed in there.

[tidus1203]

what's a C"! magazine?

Its a local automotive magazine.

[batangmahal]

i would like to believe that this fuel eco run is indicative lang talaga. in the real world, one can even get higher fc, or worse, a lot lower!

as long as kaya mo naman ang presyo ng gasolina/diesel, and you are happy with your ride, then everthing's alright!

[niky]

The DOE figures are achievable... (16 km/l out of a 2.0 or 2.5 can be done on the highway with long-distance driving)... the problem is, as you can see, the figures are scattershot... some vehicles are more efficient at 60 km/h, others at 50, others at 80... it's not a fair comparison... and you have an even bigger problem due to different drivers, who'll get different results.

Note: at 80 kmh, you can still get 20 km/l out of a Vios 1.5. At 50 km/h, you can get 20-25 out of the Honda or Toyota 1.3s, but you'll never get much more than 16 km/l out of any of the heavy Mazdas.

C!'s results, aside from the unbelievable 38 km/l (such freak occurences are possible... one couple did 40 km/l on a Trooper in an eco-run a few years back, a feat that has never been replicated)... are a good guide, since they are all done on the NLEX, in similar conditions, and most of them are done by Tito Hermoso (so it's the same driver).

[actor21]

actually i will never buy a car again if i'd only base the FC from such ECO Runs or Manufacturer's charts...this lesson i learned in a painful way...now i'll buy a car base on what owner's would say...not on a clubmember's opinion.

[Burai]

kung titignan niyo sa ibang angulo, pupwede ring ginawa nila ito to attract more car-wanna-be-buyers. pag nakita ng mga ibang tao na tipid yung ganito at ganiyan eh bibili sila ng sasakyang ganito or ganyan para hindi na mag commute

[alwayz_yummy]

somehow i believe in DOE's latest eco run... makes sense that the 800cc alto is the most fuel efficient.. but what surprised me in that is the inclusion of C180 in the top 5

followed by the 2 crdi hyundais(getz and accent respectively)

[jru120]

akala ko kasi binase lang nila sa sales agent ng car company or kaya sa brochure ng car sa mga tsikoteers na may ride sa listahan, magcomment naman kayo

[ghosthunter]

kung titignan niyo sa ibang angulo, pupwede ring ginawa nila ito to attract more car-wanna-be-buyers. pag nakita ng mga ibang tao na tipid yung ganito at ganiyan eh bibili sila ng sasakyang ganito or ganyan para hindi na mag commute

well, that depends on the sales and marketing of the favored car. The fact is that the DOE made the call to car companies to send their cars to join this "eco-run" so yes, definitely results can be used to help sell the cars.

This is nothing new under the sun. Why do you think that the Jazz and City are so favored by the public as economical cars?... Those annual Petron fuel mileage challenge had a lot to do with it and the fuel doesn't really make a big difference.

[ghosthunter]

akala ko kasi binase lang nila sa sales agent ng car company or kaya sa brochure ng car sa mga tsikoteers na may ride sa listahan, magcomment naman kayo

No, the DOE eco run was actually done in the wee hours of the night to the next day. The big eye bags of all the sales reps and company drivers I saw on the morning after can attest to that.

[Burai]

No, the DOE eco run was actually done in the wee hours of the night to the next day. The big eye bags of all the sales reps and company drivers I saw on the morning after can attest to that.

sana ang ginawa na lang bilang basehan was a daily heavy traffic or pure city driving scenario.. kasi sa pagkakaalam ko sa ibang test nila was done sa highway eh ang pagddrive halos sa highway eh mas matipid kesa sa city driving.
kung mga pro ang tititig sa ganung basehan, mas alam nila ang magiging capabilities/efficiency nun sa highway driving kahit na ba hindi lagi ganun or fixed ang consumption niya sa heavy traffic/city driving. kung entry level ang tititig sa ganung basehan, aakalain nila eh iba or aakalain nila na hindi matipid sa gas ang ganitong sasakyan. pero sadly hindi lahat ng drivers eh pro

[Blizzard]

sana nga ginawa nila under normal street scenario, yung tipong traffic minsan, minsan hindi..disregarding sa style na rin ng pag drive ng nagmamaneho..
ang ginawa kasi nila, controled environment sila. no traffic, with escorts, then umaga pa, malamig. diba namamatay aircon pag malamig na? so menos ka sa consumption ng gas.
pag matipid ng konti sa city driving, pano pa kaya sa highway.
just my opinion.

[Good Mechanic]

[SIZE=3]The 2008 DOE Fuel Economy Run for Passenger Cars, SUVs, MPVs, and Pick-ups is for baseline, comparison and indicator. [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]Scientific or laboratory test are very conservative.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]Thanks DOE!!![/SIZE]