Premium Diesel

[oj88]

The premium part is mostly just having a better additive package and maybe a bit more cetane. That said, it is all relative. In other words, regular Diesel is not bad. Premium is just better. It doesn't matter if it's a jeepney or an Audi, regular vs premium doesn't necessarily matter. Like I said earlier, use the correct EURO standard fuel for the vehicle and you'll be fine.

Don't overthink it or it will just drive you nuts. By the time your choice of regular vs premium fuel comes into play, you've most likely have sold your vehicle.

[Stigg ma]

The premium part is mostly just having a better additive package and maybe a bit more cetane. That said, it is all relative. In other words, regular Diesel is not bad. Premium is just better. It doesn't matter if it's a jeepney or an Audi, regular vs premium doesn't necessarily matter. Like I said earlier, use the correct EURO standard fuel for the vehicle and you'll be fine.

Don't overthink it or it will just drive you nuts. By the time your choice of regular vs premium fuel comes into play, you've most likely have sold your vehicle.

under construction/renovation yung caltex sa marcos alvarez las pinas, nag dadagdag sila ng underground na tangke, para daw sa "SUPER Diesel", balik tayo sa tanong na sino ba ito mga sasakyan na nangangailangan ng premium diesel kase kaya sila mag bebenta kase may "need/demand"

[ice15]

sino ba ito mga sasakyan na nangangailangan ng premium diesel kase kaya sila mag bebenta kase may "need/demand"

same question. anong local car ba ang nangangailangan ng premium diesel?

[ice15]

^ok update.

did some quick reading. higher cetane rating which cleans the engine.

ako din naman. twice a year kapag may out of town trip, gumagamit ako ng 97 Octane na gas... baka nga naman nakakalinis ng engine kahit papano.

[dr. d]

it will just clean the engine a bit, that's all.
some authors recommend a tankful every 6 months.
it has no significant effect on engine performance or km/li figures, daw.

[Stigg ma]

^ok update.

did some quick reading. higher cetane rating which cleans the engine.

ako din naman. twice a year kapag may out of town trip, gumagamit ako ng 97 Octane na gas... baka nga naman nakakalinis ng engine kahit papano.

sa gasoline engine madami na nagawa pag aaral dyan kase yan ang ginagamit ng USA, wala epek ang higher octane sa low compression engine lalo na naka bantay lahat ng sensors ng ECU, waste of money lang ang high octane sa mga sasakyan na di naman performance cars (high compression)

sa diesel naman meron high compression ratio na 14:1 to 22:1

sa 1gd-ftv ang compression ratio lang niya ay 15.6:1, so hindi ito yung nangangailanan ng high cetane. ano kaya yung diesel na super high compression???

ang land cruiser 1vd-ftv (v8) diesel 16.8:1

[Dr.Kamiya]

sa gasoline engine madami na nagawa pag aaral dyan kase yan ang ginagamit ng USA, wala epek ang higher octane sa low compression engine lalo na naka bantay lahat ng sensors ng ECU, waste of money lang ang high octane sa mga sasakyan na di naman performance cars (high compression)

sa diesel naman meron high compression ratio na 14:1 to 22:1, sa 1gd-ftv ang compression ratio lang niya ay 15.6:1, so hindi ito yung nangangailanan ng high cetane. ano kaya yung diesel na super high compression???

IIRC the old 4D56 in the L300 and boxtype to 2nd gen Pajero was 21:1

[ice15]

it will just clean the engine a bit, that's all.
some authors recommend a tankful every 6 months.
it has no significant effect on engine performance or km/li figures, daw.

yup. kahit naman sa car ko... walang naitutulong yung 97 octane.

pero at least (sana) yung "cleaning properties" nya makatulong.

[Stigg ma]

IIRC the old 4D56 in the L300 and boxtype to 2nd gen Pajero was 21:1

mukang nahanap ko na ang sagot, isa ay ang isuzu mu-x na may compression ratio na 18.1:1

isuzu trooper diesel compression ration 19.0:1

yan talaga kailanan premuim diesel

[Stigg ma]

yup. kahit naman sa car ko... walang naitutulong yung 97 octane.

pero at least (sana) yung "cleaning properties" nya makatulong.

kung cleaning lang ay mas okay pa gumamit ng techron fuel additive every 5000 km kase yan proven na...

[dr. d]

for the past 145K km, i have been filling up with the cheapest diesel fuel i can find.
i still do not feel any unclean-engine symptom, naman.

[17Sphynx17]

Only tried to use Premium Diesel on the family's Montero maybe twice? in its whole life. It is now at 90k kms, 10.5 years old by my count.

If it is about cleaning, I believe in the simple fact of using regular diesel, especially since we are now at Euro 4, Euro 5 if you are using Unioil Diesel which the Montero is using since it's 3rd year with us.

About the cleaning, if and when you do have the car casa serviced, even as once a year at MMPC, they will give you as part of your PMS the diesel cleaner additive to put into your tank when you fill the car up, because that (using your preferred brand) at your "desired" interval, or if you notice the car is blowing out dark grey or "black" soot from your tailpipe. But I have not seen that happen on the Montero anymore ever since Unioil became Euro 5. Granted I don't do any Italian "tune ups" on it but I think, for the most part, it isn't as needed because it is using Euro 5 regular diesel.

That's my take on the matter.

Maybe Euro Diesels and Korean Diesels could have some benefit with premium diesels (but it seems like the 2.2 Crdi is around 16-17 only in compression ratio) so don't know.

About the 1.9 Isuzu Dmax we have, we also use regular diesel only. But that's either seaoil or unioil, depending on route.

[dreamur]

RSM suggested that I should use premium diesel on the X3. I will oblige for now since it is still under warranty for 5 years/200T km, whichever comes first.

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[babkalakal]

IIRC the old 4D56 in the L300 and boxtype to 2nd gen Pajero was 21:1

tama po. napasin ko with the advent of common rail diesels bumaba ang compression ration ng mga diesel engine nasa 15-16:1 range of there abouts. noon old school diesel it is more in the 20+:1.

i sure the turbo neccesitated the lower ratio but i don't know what else baka kasi the fuel is highly pressurized na when injected to begin with.

[babkalakal]

mukang nahanap ko na ang sagot, isa ay ang isuzu mu-x na may compression ratio na 18.1:1

isuzu trooper diesel compression ration 19.0:1

yan talaga kailanan premuim diesel

is this for the isuzu 4rze?
yung 4jj3 kasi is 16.3:1

[Stigg ma]

"SUPER DIESEL" ang pangalan ng bago producto ng CALTEX, sa may edsa pasay meron na...

[thearsenal1205]

"SUPER DIESEL" ang pangalan ng bago producto ng CALTEX, sa may edsa pasay meron na...

Its "power diesel". They have it in caltex bf homes.

They brought back that old branding from the 90s.

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[yapoy86]

Sa crdi engines pansin ko less talaga usok sa premium diesel

[dr. d]

Its "power diesel". They have it in caltex bf homes.

They brought back that old branding from the 90s.

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how does it differ from the usual diesel?

[jigeloh]

how does it differ from the usual diesel?

It makes the user/driver feels his ordinary diesel engine will turn to super diesel engine. Placebo effect everytime .hehehehe

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