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View Poll Results: BEST Unleaded Fuel: Shell, Petron or Caltex

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  • Shell

    40 31.50%
  • Petron

    46 36.22%
  • Caltex

    11 8.66%
  • Total

    4 3.15%
  • Sea Oil

    13 10.24%
  • Uni Oil

    9 7.09%
  • Others

    4 3.15%
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    #1
    I am using Petron unleaded. I have been a Shell user for so many years but I had a problem with my Shell Citibank card which I cancelled. I now have a Petron BPI card so I had to make the switch.

    I don't understand why Petron has 2 types of unleaded? I think it is 91 and 93 Octane. I chose the 93 octane because I think the unleaded of Shell is 93 octane? Does higher Octane mean better fuel?

    My FC has improved recently. It was steady at 9.7 km/l for the past few months then recently went up to 9.8 km/l then yesterday it was 9.9 km/l! I am not sure if it has to do with Petron's fuel. I have the same driving condition and destination (no traffic and office only).

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    In a nutshell, the octane rating pertains to the fuel's resistance to burn under pressure. Ideally, the fuel mixture should only burn when the sparkplugs fire during the piston's power stoke. During the compression stroke of the pistons, the air-fuel mixture inside the the cylinder are compressed. When enough pressure builds up, it can cause the fuel mixture to combust prematurely. When that happens, this can be heard/felt as a ping or a knock. Simply put, it's bad for the engine and bad for fuel economy.

    You should follow the fuel octane recommendations stated by your car manufacturer (usually written on the manual or by the fuel door). Don't use octane levels lower than what the manufacturer recommends. Using higher octane is fine but may be unnecessary.

    FWIW, I use Petron Blaze.... just for the heck of it.
    Last edited by oj88; June 27th, 2014 at 01:53 PM.

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    bakit nakalimit lang sa big 3? sa car ko gamit ko TOTAL Protec

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    FWIW, I use Petron Blaze.... just for the heck of it.
    Blaze is the most expensive, isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    bakit nakalimit lang sa big 3? sa car ko gamit ko TOTAL Protec
    There's no Total near where I work or live. But my friend says Total is good nga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    bakit nakalimit lang sa big 3? sa car ko gamit ko TOTAL Protec
    the best ang Total lakas ng hatak pinakawalang kwenta ang Shell (para sa akin) hirap na hirap ang makina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    the best ang Total lakas ng hatak pinakawalang kwenta ang Shell (para sa akin) hirap na hirap ang makina.
    funny but yan din observation ko sa Shell
    former Petron XCS user now Caltex Gold na ako

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    for me personally. i've tried the following variants.

    Petron Unleaded 91 Octane
    Petron XCS
    Chevron Silver
    Chevron Gold
    Total Unleaded 91 Octane
    Total Protec 95 Octane
    Shell Unleaded 91 Octane
    Shell 95 Octane (pula)

    Best fuel consumption : Total Protec 95 Octane
    Best acceleration: Shell 95 Octane
    Worst Consumption : Petron XCS
    Worst Idling and Acceleration : Chevron Silver and Chevron Gold

    So I am now sticking with Shell 95 Octane (Pula).

    Depende kasi yan sa feel mo, and quality ng fuel based sa gasoline station na pinakarga mo.

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    Im using Unioil for the cars now, gas and diesel. So far so good naman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    Depende kasi yan sa feel mo, and quality ng fuel based sa gasoline station na pinakarga mo.
    All stations naman in Metro Manila have their fuel from Pandacan. They are served by the same hauler. Their tanks are all the same spec since these are all company-owned stations (whether Shell, Petron, Caltex, or small players).

    So differences in fuel from different stations of the same brand is all placebo.


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    Cath, your improvement from 9.7 to 9.9 km/L could very well be just because of slightly altered driving conditions. That's only a 2% improvement which isn't really indicative of anything.

    Also, octane rating isn't a very good metric of your fuel's performance for your car. As long as the fuel you use meets the minimum, it should be okay.

    More than the octane rating, the additives used are also different between the different fuel grades. Higher-end fuel has more detergent additives that cleans up deposits which could make your engine run better.

    Of course, this is all theoretical. The claims of fuel manufacturers are true in a laboratory setting, but how it plays out in the real world with a lot of variables is a different story. I'm not saying they don't work, but I believe that customers should try it out first if they really observe a noticeable difference attributable directly to the fuel used.

    You might want to note that only Petron and Shell have local refineries. This is important for me because it ensures that the fuel sold by these companies are consistent.

    As for other brands, they import from different sources abroad. I'm pretty sure the bigger brands (Seaoil, Unioil, Total, Caltex) probably have some quality control measures in place, but since they get from different sources, I can't help but wonder if all batches of Unioil fuel are Euro IV, or perhaps they have some batches that aren't compliant since they had to get from a different supplier that time.


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    EDIT: Oops, unleaded pala yung nasa title. Hehe.

    I use VPN+ when I fill up in an area where the price gap is small (in Kalayaan/Fairview the gap is less than 50 cents). But in other places where the gap is over 1 peso, I use FuelSave.
    Last edited by jut703; June 27th, 2014 at 02:25 PM.

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    Worst consumption for me is Petron XCS which i noticed na pumangit quality. Before nun Revo pa lang sasakyan namin fuel ko is always XCS or xtra unleaded ng Petron. Then nung nagka vios ako nagpa gas ako ng XCS worst consumption. Never tried the xtra unleaded again. Pero Shell 95 octane gamit ko. So far so good

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    #13
    Unioil 91 or Petron 91 when in Mla
    Petron 93 or 95 when in the province, hauling stuff


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    an insider fron PNOC said that based on their lab test, caltex has the cleanest fuel. petron naman is the dirtiest.

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    #15
    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    an insider fron PNOC said that based on their lab test, caltex has the cleanest fuel. petron naman is the dirtiest.

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    Caltex already closed their refinery a few years ago. They're now no different from Unioil/Seaoil/small players. They just import.


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    #16
    What is the difference with Petron's XTRA (93 octane) and XCS (95)? I just gassed up and XTRA costs 54.35 and XCS and 54.95. I noticed that in the replies here, those that gas up at Petron choose XCS. Meron pa silang Unleaded na 91 Octane.

    I find Petron's variety so confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    What is the difference with Petron's XTRA (93 octane) and XCS (95)? I just gassed up and XTRA costs 54.35 and XCS and 54.95. I noticed that in the replies here, those that gas up at Petron choose XCS. Meron pa silang Unleaded na 91 Octane.

    I find Petron's variety so confusing.
    Petron has 4 unleaded grades:

    Super Xtra Gasoline - 91 RON, apparently pang-masa, usually priced same as Caltex Silver and Shell FuelSave (both also 91 RON), not so common in upscale Metro Manila areas (ie Fort, Makati)

    Xtra Advance - 93 RON, no direct competitor with the other big players, tries to bridge the gap between regular and premium unleaded.

    XCS - 95 RON, competes with V-Power Nitro+ and Caltex Gold. Targeted towards more "discerning" motorists.

    Blaze - 100 RON, competes with V-Power Nitro+ Racing (97 RON), Euro IV compliant. Targeted towards those with exotics, price gap with 91 RON is over 3 pesos.

    When I fill up with Petron, XCS lang because mura lang difference with Xtra Advance. I don't even consider Super Xtra Gasoline since halos walang engine-cleaning additives yan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Petron has 4 unleaded grades:

    Super Xtra Gasoline - 91 RON, apparently pang-masa, usually priced same as Caltex Silver and Shell FuelSave (both also 91 RON), not so common in upscale Metro Manila areas (ie Fort, Makati)

    Xtra Advance - 93 RON, no direct competitor with the other big players, tries to bridge the gap between regular and premium unleaded.

    XCS - 95 RON, competes with V-Power Nitro+ and Caltex Gold. Targeted towards more "discerning" motorists.

    Blaze - 100 RON, competes with V-Power Nitro+ Racing (97 RON), Euro IV compliant. Targeted towards those with exotics, price gap with 91 RON is over 3 pesos.

    When I fill up with Petron, XCS lang because mura lang difference with Xtra Advance. I don't even consider Super Xtra Gasoline since halos walang engine-cleaning additives yan.


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    Oh! That's why I was confused why Petron had so many varieties of unleaded. I've been gassing up at the same Shell station for over a decade and I just say unleaded. I had no idea there were 2 kinds of unleaded as well in Shell.

    Thanks for the information! I will just gas up with XCS next time. I think I need to reapply for a Shell Citibank Card

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    an insider fron PNOC said that based on their lab test, caltex has the cleanest fuel. petron naman is the dirtiest.

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    *jut703 can you comment on statement above saying Petron allegedly is dirtiest among Top3. I noticed that you use XCS, and with your inside knowledge on fuels, it might not be true that its dirty after all.
    Last edited by ano727; June 29th, 2014 at 08:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ano727 View Post
    *jut703 can you comment on statement above saying Petron allegedly is dirtiest among Top3. I noticed that you use XCS, and with your inside knowledge on fuels, it might not be true that its dirty after all.
    Have not used XCS in over a year. But in the past I had no bad experience with it.

    I don't think Petron fuel is that bad because they're improving their refinery in Bataan (Euro IV for all fuels by 2015).

    That said, they are a local company, so they have less R&D spending compared to Shell (who operates on a much larger scale globally).


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