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    if their product becomes as popular as Khaos i'll be impressed

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    if their product becomes as popular as Khaos i'll be impressed
    I am waiting for VP Binay's TV endosement on this "product".

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    if their product becomes as popular as Khaos i'll be impressed
    My God, dami nabola ng Khaos na yun! Am reading this thread post by post, and I can't seem to grasp the totality of it. Too many loose ends IMHO. Que sera sera!

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    Nuvimax: The Last Mind-Bender




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    Khaos, then GTOil, then this... I wonder what's next.

    To the 2 dudes,

    Guys, quit it. Seriously, quit it. Do something more relevant & more useful. If you really care about the environment, why not plant trees instead, or perhaps spread the word to your friends to just walk instead of using their vehicles. Or even talk to the government regarding the poor state of our transporation, maybe? Or you could even start with your cars, if you have one, sell them then start walking or biking. Less emissions? Definitely.

    Your products doesn't work. Your documents that are supposed to prove it does tells otherwise. Stop with all your brouhahas, you're just wasting your precious time.

    No one will buy your product, especially those who really know their cars. If you're lucky enough, maybe a few will. Those people who are very gullible or just plain stupid.

    If you really plan on going green, design a car that has an aerodynamic body to lessen the drag. Buy an engine that is capable of being very efficient. Then sell it as an "all-pinoy" made vehicle than can do 20km/L on the city. You're pretty imaginative, so I guess you really can do that.

    Because seriously, I find those people who buy Altos more environment-caring than those people who invent gas-savers and claim it as if it was really working when in truth, it doesn't.

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    ya and i can tell when someone is delusional

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    In creased HC emissions + Increased CO emissions plus 15 hp midrange = more fuel being used in the Galant. Funny, then, that the fuel economy test was done with a Kia Pride, eh?


    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quick question: would you want one if we gave it to you for free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eudaemonia View Post
    Quick question: would you want one if we gave it to you for free?
    haha that's so sad

    you have to give away your product coz nobody wants to take it seriously

    maybe the problem isnt the product. maybe it's the people pushing it

    maybe you should hire someone to push your product... someone who talks and behaves normally... you know... someone like a regular person...

    strange people don't really make good salespeople

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    * uls-nice point. Not the product. Maybe the people. And not just those pushing it. As I've placed here earlier, "to those who believe, no proof is necessary, for those who don't no proof is sufficient". Yet again this is proven true.

    True that there's manure and all that, but this is a normal process. But the pollution we're talking about is the one caused by carbons from past long life-forms. With vehicles and power-plants, we are accelerating it in a pace we may not recover from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eudaemonia View Post
    * uls-nice point. Not the product. Maybe the people. And not just those pushing it. As I've placed here earlier, "to those who believe, no proof is necessary, for those who don't no proof is sufficient". Yet again this is proven true.
    again, i said there must be something wrong with the person/s pushing the product kaya the product isnt being taken seriously

    this guy didnt even get who i was referring to

    hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by eudaemonia View Post
    Quick question: would you want one if we gave it to you for free?
    Quick answer ... NO

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    Because regardless of your opinion it doesn't work, some Government Agency showed it had statistical data that it did, if not INFLUENCE variables of car performance. Should we be believe them and perfect the technology? Or shall w ebelieve you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eudaemonia View Post
    Because regardless of your opinion it doesn't work, some Government Agency showed it had statistical data that it did, if not INFLUENCE variables of car performance. Should we be believe them and perfect the technology? Or shall w ebelieve you?
    yeah you go ahead and "perfect" your product just coz some govt agency "showed statistical data" that your invention "influenced variables of car performance"

    wonder how credible the testing methods were

    in terms of clinical drug trials, was there a control group? double blind placebo?

    considering how incompetent govt employees are... and considering that the best and brightest are working in the private sector or working abroad... i wonder how reliable and competent that govt agency really is
    Last edited by uls; June 2nd, 2012 at 01:47 AM.

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    * uls, please be cautious in your responses since we've identified the developers of NUVITRON are from NUEVA VIZCAYA, and saying there are, what was that, "not many bright people where you're from". This comment might not be in order.

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    Asking for tests to back-up the claims, we have provided you links for reference and scrutiny. You chose to focus on and barrage about one item (re emissions) which can actually be improved on.

    Asking for the testing center/s, we have given you the Agency/ies who and where the tests were conducted. You chose to place these testing Agencies dubitable of their competence to conduct such.

    No wonder we've not evolved much. This behavior was true even sometime when a guy said "I'm the Elohim", and was crucified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eudaemonia View Post
    Asking for tests to back-up the claims, we have provided you links for reference and scrutiny. You chose to focus on and barrage about one item (re emissions) which can actually be improved on.
    Like I said, I just simply referred to the documents provided by the "inventor". If the inventor cannot even understand the data on his own documents, it does not build confidence to the people he is talking to. And let me point it out again, in his own documents, his product INCREASES the emissions of polluting CO and HC. It was stated in the table and again in a paragraph on PAGE 3 clear as day for anyone who cared to read it.

    Fact is, lowering emissions is one of the numerous claims of the product. If it fails in ONE of it's claims, it is a FAIL for the entire product. It's like driving a car that only gets you part way to your destination. It is a faulty product. Simple as that. No emotions, just being objective to the data that he provided.

    If it can be improved, why wasn't it been improved by now? ... the document/tests was done back in 2008. It is now 2012. SIX years and no improvements? Was it overtaken by other products with similar applications?
    Last edited by ghosthunter; June 2nd, 2012 at 09:06 AM.

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    No wonder we've not evolved much. This behavior was true even sometime when a guy said "I'm the Elohim", and was crucified.
    Huwag magtiwala sa nanloloko. Pero huwag din ipagatboy ang nagsasabi ng totoo
    i am the way, the truth, and the life ba?

    sabi ko na nga may delusions of grandeur ito eh

    now he thinks he's Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    If it can be improved, why wasn't it been improved by now? ... the document/tests was done back in 2008. It is now 2012. SIX years and no improvements? Was it overtaken by other products with similar applications?
    by the time they "perfect" their product the Earth will already be uninhabitable haha

    "hey our product finally works!"

    Last edited by uls; June 2nd, 2012 at 10:38 AM.

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    * uls, don't you feel the need to explain yourself in your quote in implying Vizcayano's are not so "bright"? And for those who see pessimism being a Filipino, that-is sad. This the kind of attitude which lets this country still be as it is. Team, I expected more from you.

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