Hydro Octane Booster (HOB) [fuel saving gadget] [merged threads]

[ghosthunter]

zero emissions???? here we go again....

tell me about it...

[alwayz_yummy]

hehehe! zero emission.

ibig sabihin, pag bumili ka wala na bubuga ride mo!

tayo ngang tao may emission...kahit siguro electric car di zero emission, noh!

now that the marketing cue every-one talk about....zero emission :bwahaha:

[the_wildthing]

The challenge to all who invent such a thing is solid proof (documented tests, repeatable and scientific). There's a thread here about what we are looking for...

That's the challenge, if you're up for it.

[kali_rj]

The challenge to all who invent such a thing is solid proof (documented tests, repeatable and scientific). There's a thread here about what we are looking for...

That's the challenge, if you're up for it.

solid proof? please read ^^^^ my post.

bro sa simula pa lang, yun na ang hiningi ko kay GH -- im requesting him nga to evaluate. (or kahit sino here na meron credibility sa tsikot.com) ok lang naman whether all of you go or 1 goes, we're not hiding anything -- the more the merrier. we're ALWAYS willing to be challenged ... pero lets do it na face-to-face ... let the results na lang speak for itself ...

after the eval and if it passes, affordability na lang will be the remaining issue -- and thats up to the one who will be investing his hard earned money na -- ika nga at that point, kanya kanyang diskarte na.

peace!

[the_wildthing]

You don't understand... you're supposed to produce these results, whether through independent testing labs (there are actually companies that do this) or through your OWN testing.

Why would I pay for something just to test it? You're supposed to back up your claims with verifiable test results.

[ghosthunter]

You don't understand... you're supposed to produce these results, whether through independent testing labs (there are actually companies that do this) or through your OWN testing.

Why would I pay for something just to test it? You're supposed to back up your claims with verifiable test results.

[The_Alpha]

I have see some of the results that was done by Toyota from the this product last week the result was unblvable... you should see it... its an emission test certified by toyota and tesda examiner. a friend had intalled this unit in his car 4.6 engine expedition. he was very happy about the results.

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[Josh0027]

I have see some of the results that was done by Toyota from the this product last week the result was unblvable... you should see it... its an emission test certified by toyota and tesda examiner. a friend had intalled this unit in his car 4.6 engine expedition. he was very happy about the results.

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Could you or someone produce a copy of this test results? The most important selling point of any product is that it can back up what it claimes through hard facts.

[The_Alpha]

yup I still have a copy of it. the emission was certified by a toyota examineer personnel. I think at first they didnt agreed on what they have seen. they tried another test instrument but it still had the same output. the minimum C.O. which is the standard in the emission is 3.5% and the result was Zero and the H.C. (Hydro carbons) is 600 ppm (parts per million) on the acceptable standard. Data was still negative.(Zero) the examineer hesitated to sign first but that was the real result.

In my opinion Vaporized gas could result in easy combustion and quicker response on acceleration. it could easily burn fuel. resulting a cleaner and complete combustion.
but it has to be on the right mixture between the bond of liquid fuel and gas mixture pumped to the engine.

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[Josh0027]

yup I still have a copy of it. the emission was certified by a toyota examineer personnel. I think at first they didnt agreed on what they have seen. they tried another test instrument but it still had the same output. the minimum C.O. which is the standard in the emission is 3.5% and the result was Zero and the H.C. (Hydro carbons) is 600 ppm (parts per million) on the acceptable standard. Data was still negative.(Zero) the examineer hesitated to sign first but that was the real result.

In my opinion Vaporized gas could result in easy combustion and quicker response on acceleration. it could easily burn fuel. resulting a cleaner and complete combustion.
but it has to be on the right mixture between the bond of liquid fuel and gas mixture pumped to the engine.

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Hmmmm.... minimum C.O. is zero percent??? This will raise eyebrows bro... I don't know about the HC value if it should be 600 ppm. And what standards were the basis? If I remember right on the Khaos thread... the ppm should be tad lower based on the Australian standards... I might be wrong though...

It's best that you post or scan the results. The gurus here could give some more light on these results. =)

[ghosthunter]

Why is it when a "new" fuel saving device gets discussed on tsikot.com, new people suddenly comes out of the woodwork and post messages or comments or testimonials that are ultra-positive about it.

[yebo]

kali,

dapat kasi pag engineering product (especially for motor vehicles) and binebenta e engineers din ang sales people.

like construction materials, usually civil engineers or architects ang humahawak ng sales nyan.

air conditioning, diesel power plants, pumps, elevators and escalators, etc, mga mechanical engineers humahawak ng sales nito.

electric motors, electrical wires and conduits, breakers, transformers, etc, mga electrical and electronic engineers nagbebenta nyan.

alam mo bakit? kasi pag nagtanong ang isang project engineer dun sa salesman about the product at hindi nagustuhan ang sagot, dedma na yan. di na bibili. kaya ayusin mo mga sagot mo iho at ako ay naguumpisa nang mamula. pag nag-iba bigla ang mood ko (mabait ako ngayon) bubuksan ko yang website nyo at uuriratin ko lahat ng nakalagay dyan. if you don't want your product to go the way of the khaos and the ego then i strongly suggest that you post believable, verifiable technical data. we can easily and we do deliberately tresh out marketting gimmickry here in tsikot. otherwise we will simply dismiss your product as a waste of time and money.

pero kung ang preferred sales approach ninyo e mag-hire ng mga magagandang babae at lalaki para magbenta, ibahin nyo na negosyo nyo. tayo na lang kayo massage parlor. ginagawa nyo kaming tanga e. nagkalat po ang technical people dito sa tsikot. we ask questions here, we use our brains. di kami nakukuha sa mini skirts at lambing ng boses pag kotse ang pinaguusapan.

[ian_rex]

tama si sir yebo. let us simply say 'illuminati' ang (parang pangit pakinggan a) mga taga- tsikot. i mean, enlightened car enthusiast.

peace out. dito naman sa tsikot, kapag nakitang ok, panigurado todo suporta ang makukuha. otherwise todo ang batikos na aabutin lalo't di maganda ang epekto.

[GlennSter]

kali rj: we've had several discussions already of different fuel saving devices..and as consumers of gas, we would be happy that there is one or several devices that will really work.

ang amin lang naman, bago ilabas ang product, dapat may HARD TECHNICAL FACTS to back it up.yun lang naman hinihingi namin eh.we dont want opinions or testimonials.we want hard facts. pag napatunyan na, edi good!!bibili kami for sure.

as of now, wala kaming nakikitang pwede namin pag basehan para bumili.as a consumer, you should know that naman din diba?

we are not here to junk every claim ng isang product. the opposite is actually true...we want the products to work! but we are not the ones who should test it.trabaho niyo na yan.

[smalltimer]

Sana kahit basic emission test lang meron tsaka na yung sa taiwan, VIPAC, DENR, etc

[kali_rj]

But your current approach will defintely KILL most your potential customers from tsikot.com, if it hasn't yet ... gets mo?

definitely kill? dont you think thats being too pessimistic GH?

i know if i have all the perfect data, there is nothing to argue about anymore (maybe price na lang).

once this credible data is made available, it will spread like wildfire to all the dealers. unahan na yan, because thats a major marketing tool -- alam naman namin yan sir.

what i know for sure that i have achieved here in tsikot is: ive made the people here aware that HOB exists -- whether they like the product now or not, well .... the burden of proof is still and will always be in our side. but once this data is presented, and people would finally find the product a worthwhile investment, i would then hope that some of you would recognize all my initial efforts here and buy from me or thru my channels. if you buy it from someone else, obviously its your prerogative ... then i wish you well and God Speed!

[nugundam93]

para hindi mashado maging flamebait discussions ito, please do post hard data asap. :D

[albert_b]

kali_rj,

be patient sa mga taga tsikot, tama ka ... everyone here have their best intentions sa mga remarks nila... lahat ng criticisms dito are very good naman and have their merits, if ma-satisfy mo naman ang tsikoteers and verified na lahat ng claims ... maraming mag-e-endorse niyan dito ... tingnan mo nalang mga shops na maganda serbisyo ... todo endorsements and testimonials ;-) ... malay mo hihingi pa kami ng group discount ... basta pumasa ofcourse sa mga tanong dito.

The worst thing you can do is suddenly disappear or give up, kasi that will only prove that the product isn't worth it. So just be patient with us ... we are your potential clients.

Hehe parang thesis defense 'no?

[kali_rj]

kali_rj,

be patient sa mga taga tsikot, tama ka ... everyone here have their best intentions sa mga remarks nila... lahat ng criticisms dito are very good naman and have their merits, if ma-satisfy mo naman ang tsikoteers and verified na lahat ng claims ... maraming mag-e-endorse niyan dito ... tingnan mo nalang mga shops na maganda serbisyo ... todo endorsements and testimonials ;-) ... malay mo hihingi pa kami ng group discount ... basta pumasa ofcourse sa mga tanong dito.

The worst thing you can do is suddenly disappear or give up, kasi that will only prove that the product isn't worth it. So just be patient with us ... we are your potential clients.

Hehe parang thesis defense 'no?

hey albert thanks ... the data is in the works. i just cant give a firm timeline though. once i have, i'll post it.

Peace!

[GlennSter]

kali_rj


as ive said, if this product will really work, we'll be the first ones to buy it.

as of now, be patient lang with us...i know you understand our apprehensions. just dont let yourself be like one of those people lalo na dun sa khaos thread.

goodluck