Which Gaso is better? Moderators Help!!!

[GaLynxmo]

[SIZE=3] Ive read all the posts in the thread titled "Petron Caltex, Shell, Ano gamit mo?" and wondered can the claims be put under scrutiny and tests? I have no preferene and uses gas in whatever station am nearest to. If I gas up with unleaded, the next time it will be the premium gas. Shell, Petron, Caltex, Unioil, you name it, I use it. But I detest being hooked to only one brand.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3] Since we know that there are a lot of factors affecting the car's milage, (even affecting our own decision) does one company's gas formulation per se gives better milage than the others? But unless we have someone who can enlighten us about the formulations being peddled by these gasoline retailers (Petron, Caltex, Shell, etc.,) we will just be indulging in endless and futile guessing game, wont we? Or are all of them the same but merely differs in their ad campaign? [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3] Calling our Moderators, do we have guys who have these info? or such thingts elsewhere in this forum? I've read about engine oils, ATF oils, etc., here, but whatabout gasoline?[/SIZE]

[russpogi]

Do you really have to use bigger fonts? We can read the regular font size (like this post) FYI.

Oh by the way, are you just asking only the moderators opinion about this matter? Better PM them if you don't want other members of Tsikot to join the discussion in this thread.

[GmZ]

Do you really have to use bigger fonts? We can read the regular font size (like this post) FYI.

Oh by the way, are you just asking only the moderators opinion about this matter? Better PM them if you don't want other members of Tsikot to join the discussion in this thread.

whoosaaahh.. easy lang bro russ =) had to admit, medyo naduling ako ng binasa ko post mo GALynxmo. Yun lang..

[russpogi]

whoosaaahh.. easy lang bro russ =) had to admit, medyo naduling ako ng binasa ko post mo GALynxmo. Yun lang..

Ako din eh! hehehe! Nga lang, medyo napaisip ako kse the thread title says, "Moderators Help!!!". So parang ang dating eh he just wants to get help from the Mods only, and not from the rest of the Tsikoteer community. Sana nag-PM na lang sya instead of creating a thread.

My two cents po

[Syuryuken]

For the mods lang thread na to.

[nugundam93]

For the mods lang thread na to.

onga. wala pang mod though na nagrereply dito. :lol:

[ssaloon]

why do you detest being loyal to one brand? use what works for you. if you feel that you have better performance and fuel economy with a certain brand, then stick with it. you also have to take into consideration the convenience of having a certain station within the vicinity of your house, office, etc.

[SNAKE V6]

sagot sana ako...wag na lang, hehe...

[5Speed]

di ako moderator.....di pedeng sumagot....herherheherher

[nugundam93]

hehehehe yay sumagot na si fafa miko! :lol:

[GaLynxmo]

Do you really have to use bigger fonts? We can read the regular font size (like this post) FYI.

Oh by the way, are you just asking only the moderators opinion about this matter? Better PM them if you don't want other members of Tsikot to join the discussion in this thread.

In this forum? you can think and you can reply if you want to. But if you have nothing good to say? Pls be courteous enough to shut up. Please respect other people's choices/ You can think but keep it to yourself please.

[jonski]

hindi ako pala pwede mag reply dito

[claRkEnt]

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[russpogi]

In this forum? you can think and you can reply if you want to. But if you have nothing good to say? Pls be courteous enough to shut up. Please respect other people's choices/ You can think but keep it to yourself please.

Uhm.. that's why it's called a forum where 'forumers' like you and me can express our own opinions. What's not good to say? I called your attention on the font size usage. It's too big that reading your post makes it hard for some of us. You mentioned that you did a Search so most probably you saw that everyone (most if not all) are using regular font as a from courtesy we share here in Tsikot.com.

Second, on your thread title, you specifically mentioned that you are looking for Moderator's opinions only. Why not PM them instead of creating a new thread? It's clear from the title that regular forumers like me cannot address your concern. Read most of the replies to this thread.

I do respect your opinion and you should repect the opinions of EVERYONE here in Tsikot.com, including mine. We Tsikoteers do exercise courtesy and respect to each and everyone. By the way, don't EVER tell me or anyone here to shut up. It's not nice to say that to someone you don't even know.

[niky]

*GaLynxmo: When you post in a public forum, or a public area of the forum, expect a public response. Please remember that.

RE: Opinion of Moderators: Would be just that, opinions. While some moderators are more technically inclined than we are, like sir Ghosthunter and sir OTEP in some matters, I don't know if any of them are experts on fuel, which is what you're really looking for.

I believe the DOE has Octane testers (shown on an episode of Expose or TVPatrol... I think, on that episode with the gas station selling "regular" as "premium) that you can use to gauge the quality of suspect fuel. Some engineering labs or schools might have these.

But as to the effectiveness of additives, that'll require lots of work. You can't just put different fuels into one engine and test them all on the road. Varying environmental temperatures, runnign temperatures and road conditions will have an effect on the engine. And the varying octane ratings of each fuel will have their effect, also. Any engine can be tuned to run better on higher or lower octane... so if one engine runs better with a higher octane gas, it doesn't mean that another engine will run better with the same gas... in fact, some engines run better on lower octane, because they're tuned for it.

Assuming you've collected gasolines from all three major players, and have found them to be of exactly equal octane ratings. You need a reliably stable engine to test fuel efficiency and power on (preferably a new EFI, which you should reset between tests) and a dynamometer to test on. A sealed dyno environment will give you constant external temperatures and running temperatures.

This testing will take lots of money. Ask torque2006, representative for autotechnika... You should budget at least 10,000 pesos plus gas money for this test... and you still need to borrow an Octane tester, as well as budget some money to have a chemical lab give you a breakdown of each gasoline.

And this test will still be applicable only to the car used. Like I said previously, different cars react to different gasolines differently. That's why people stand by different brands, because a certain mix of additives and octane might be great for one car, while it will seem terrible for another. That's why some people will swear by a low octane product like Petron XTra, or others will swear by V-Power or Blaze, or even Caltex's Techron formulation (so far, my car isn't saying anything nice about it... )... but others will already have optimum performance on 89 Regular.

It's all up to your car which one it likes, and some cars are really picky. That's why these debates will never end.

[GaLynxmo]

Uhm.. that's why it's called a forum where 'forumers' like you and me can express our own opinions. What's not good to say? I called your attention on the font size usage. It's too big that reading your post makes it hard for some of us. You mentioned that you did a Search so most probably you saw that everyone (most if not all) are using regular font as a from courtesy we share here in Tsikot.com.

Second, on your thread title, you specifically mentioned that you are looking for Moderator's opinions only. Why not PM them instead of creating a new thread? It's clear from the title that regular forumers like me cannot address your concern. Read most of the replies to this thread.

I do respect your opinion and you should repect the opinions of EVERYONE here in Tsikot.com, including mine. We Tsikoteers do exercise courtesy and respect to each and everyone. By the way, don't EVER tell me or anyone here to shut up. It's not nice to say that to someone you don't even know.

Yeah, making fun of someone, (his choices to use bigger font, or ask someone else besides you, etc.) you don't even know is not nice. Telling you to shut up? why its a suggestion if you have nothing nice to say to someone (like one you dont know)? Am happy you understand that. And if you are not asked, like you said, you do not have to make any comment, much less make fun of the writer. Why make a thread? well that a choice one have. Is it agaist the rules? NO!! Is using bigger fonts against the rules? NO! Respect other's choices and opinions are just that. And lets leave it at that, please.

[GaLynxmo]

why do you detest being loyal to one brand? use what works for you. if you feel that you have better performance and fuel economy with a certain brand, then stick with it. you also have to take into consideration the convenience of having a certain station within the vicinity of your house, office, etc.

Thanks for replying on the substance (rather than the form) of my post. And that is why I would like to hear the preference of people (everyone in fact) who are on the know (technical knowhow) about fuels. Because one's choice may not be a wise one. kudos.

[russpogi]

Yeah, making fun of someone, (his choices to use bigger font, or ask someone else besides you, etc.) you don't even know is not nice.

Never did made fun of you.

Telling you to shut up? why its a suggestion if you have nothing nice to say to someone (like one you dont know)? Am happy you understand that.

It's a public forum and expect a public comment. Quoting Niky on this.

And if you are not asked, like you said, you do not have to make any comment, much less make fun of the writer.

Again, never did made fun of you. And again, it's a public forum and expect a public comment. I am part of the public.

Why make a thread? well that a choice one have. Is it agaist the rules? NO!! Is using bigger fonts against the rules? NO! Respect other's choices and opinions are just that. And lets leave it at that, please.

I agree. I am just saying that bigger fonts are not necessary for the forumers, mods, and admins to read them, in my honest opinion.

As per your title, you never answered my question:

Oh by the way, are you just asking only the moderators opinion about this matter? Better PM them if you don't want other members of Tsikot to join the discussion in this thread.

Honestly, again in my honest opinion, the thread title implies that you only want the opinions of the Mods. If needed, you may PM any of the Mods or Admins to edit your title.

Sorry po sa OT at sa mahabang post.