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    [size=4]Top Ten Fuel Efficient Cars (by class)[/size]
    Top Gear - January 2006


    Sub-Compact

    -Honda Jazz 1.3 CVT (Gas)
    12 - 16 km/l - city
    18 - 25 km/l - highway

    -Honda City 1.3 CVT (Gas)
    12 - 16 km/l - city
    18 - 25 km/l - highway

    -Kia Picanto (Gas, 1.1 MT, likely...)
    14 - 18 km/l - city
    20 - 25 km/l - highway

    -Toyota Vios 1.3 J (Gas, might be MT)
    10-14 km/l - city
    16-20 km/l - highway

    -Hyundai Matrix CRDi (1.5 diesel MT)
    12 - 16 km/l - city
    18 - 25 km/l - highway

    Mid Sized Sedans

    -Chevy Lumina (2.5 V6 Gas AT)
    9 - 11 km/l - city
    10 - 14 km/l - highway

    AUV

    -Mitsubishi Adventure GLX MT (2.5 Diesel)
    9 - 11 km/l - city
    14 - 16 km/l - highway

    Compact SUV

    -Nissan X-Trail 200X (AWD 2.0 Gas AT)
    8 - 10 km/l - city
    10 - 13 km/l - highway

    -Hyundai Tucson CRDi (2.0 Diesel AT)
    10 - 12 km/l - city
    12 - 14 km/l - highway

    Full Sized SUV

    -Mitsubishi Pajero GLS (3.2 Inline 4 Turbodiesel, AWD)
    10 - 12 km/l - city
    12 - 14 km/l - highway


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    What Top Gear didn't specify is the source of their data, but I'm betting it's observed real-world fuel consumption, since claimed for the City is only 14 km/l, and eco-runs in Manila net upwards of 20 km/l.

    I'm not surprised by the Chevy Lumina. That's an understressed torquey V6 with looong US-spec gears compared to the competition. Mazda's 2.0 and 2.3 aren't known for fuel efficiency, and Honda's 2.0 is a know guzzler, but can't Toyota put up a fight against this? BTW, GM does some sharing with Hyundai... quick! Someone test the Hyundai Coupe!

    Top Gear gets the data for the X-Trail wrong. They called it an SR20DE powered car. It's QR20DE. The QR is more torque biased than the SR. I know the CRV is no match for those numbers, nor are the Escape/Tribute, but what about the RAV4?

    And no Compact Sedans? I'd love to know how the Honda Civic 1.6 and Toyota Corolla 1.6 stack up.

    As for the Pajero... Alterra owners, any numbers? Crosswind owners, are we going to stand up for the win by the Adventure? I've personally hit a high of 16 km/l... anyone else? XWind owners, represent!

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    sana top 10 by car class. :D

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    tama yung gas consumption sa Xtrail, mali lang yung specs ng engine.

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    i'm wondering, did they conducted a side-by-side comparisson or they simply got the data based on what available fleet they have?

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    I believe the numbers of the X-Trail, no problem there, as it's the most modern of the 2.0s in CUVs (iVTEC notwithstanding) but I'm wondering if the RAV4 might not drink less, given it has the only 1.8 in the class, and a lighter body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    I believe the numbers of the X-Trail, no problem there, as it's the most modern of the 2.0s in CUVs (iVTEC notwithstanding) but I'm wondering if the RAV4 might not drink less, given it has the only 1.8 in the class, and a lighter body.
    though based on the post of X-Trail owners, the numbers posted are VERY optimistic...

    but the Rav4 SV (1.8L) is known for frugality... based on the post of some SV owners, city driving is around 10km/L... then 15km/L and above for highway.

    the 2.0L M/T will also give it some competition... in the worse driving condition (sleeping in the car for hours due to flood) I've recorded just 7 km/L. normal consumption for me is around 8-9km/L, driving through EDSA traffic and then cruising between 120-140kph in the highway everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    though based on the post of X-Trail owners, the numbers posted are VERY optimistic...

    but the Rav4 SV (1.8L) is known for frugality... based on the post of some SV owners, city driving is around 10km/L... then 15km/L and above for highway.

    the 2.0L M/T will also give it some competition... in the worse driving condition (sleeping in the car for hours due to flood) I've recorded just 7 km/L. normal consumption for me is around 8-9km/L, driving through EDSA traffic and then cruising between 120-140kph in the highway everyday.
    See, that's what I thought. The RAV4 is light, and Toyota's 1.8 and 2.0 are good in terms of fuel economy (especially compared to Honda's 2.0, which is more performance biased).

    Okay ang numbers mo... they're the same I get for my 2.0 Lynx.

    I really wanted to see numbers for Compacts. People would be amazed how far you can get on a full tank in a Corolla or Civic 1.6.

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    At 870Kg weight with simple technology and low aquisition cost, the picanto sure did show it could match and exceed the latest high tech competion. The simplier the machinery the less parts to break down is my motto when it comes to basic car requirements.

    The best damn desicion I made when I bought my picanto for my wife last Sept '04 * P330K. Hell at P415K its still a good buy. That is if you need just a basic car.

    Rodski

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodski
    At 870Kg weight with simple technology and low aquisition cost, the picanto sure did show it could match and exceed the latest high tech competion. The simplier the machinery the less parts to break down is my motto when it comes to basic car requirements.

    The best damn desicion I made when I bought my picanto for my wife last Sept '04 * P330K. Hell at P415K its still a good buy. That is if you need just a basic car.

    Rodski
    how about safety? did you consider this also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodski
    At 870Kg weight with simple technology and low aquisition cost, the picanto sure did show it could match and exceed the latest high tech competion. The simplier the machinery the less parts to break down is my motto when it comes to basic car requirements.

    The best damn desicion I made when I bought my picanto for my wife last Sept '04 * P330K. Hell at P415K its still a good buy. That is if you need just a basic car.

    Rodski
    You make a convincing argument there sir. I'm beginning to see the light... Anong color yung gas saver nyo sir?

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    wala ni isang ISUZU vehicle

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    sana they did it by category ... wala ni isang compact (which makes up majority of the car buying public)

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    inadequately done...all variants should have been tested
    ~yung Matrix nakapasok...di naman ako nagtataka...pero nasan yung Getz CRDi....di ba dapat kasama din yun...mas maliit using the same engine...
    ~Picanto can just produce almost the same numbers as heavier Jazz and City?...?...?
    ~no doubt about the Lumina...torquey engines are always less strained while running.
    but is a 2.4L VTEC Accord can't beat that? just asking.
    ~not a single compact?! what gives?
    ~AUVs i have an Adventure GLS, its really thrifty. i dont have details as to how a Crosswind consumes gas, but i've always thought that its more fuel efficient.
    ~Bravo the Xtrail, but how about a RAV4 SV 1.8L?
    ~its nice to hear that the Pajero can squeeze that numbers, from what i read from Fortuner threads here, its even more efficient. how about an Alterra? Montero Sport and Everest too?
    ~Pick ups are not tested as well.
    ~as are vans.

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    baka masyadong controversial kung maglabas sila ng compact cars .. yung mga manufacturers are all sponsors of this magazine, i suppose .. so tipong don't bite the hand that feeds you ..

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    Oo nga ano, bakit wala yung Isuzu sa listahan? Fuel efficiency has been their USP for as long as I can remember.

    Could it have something to do with Crosswind exhausts being reportedly prone to damage? They must have figured that this cancels out the Isuzu engine's inherent fuel efficiency.

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    Exhausts are always fixed under warranty, and a flex-pipe takes care of the problem easily.

    Maybe they tested a Crosswind with an exhaust leak? That causes numbers to go down horribly.

    Likely hindi pa nila na-drive yung Getz CRDi, bago pa lang siya, so that's understandable, but the lack of data regarding compacts is... buwisit!

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    The RAV4 SV can do 15km/L on a highway based on my experience, and just about the same as the XTRAIL's in terms of city petrol consumption.

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    dont worry guys..the editor in chief reads tsikot.com.hehehehe

    makakarating

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    Hindi na siguro sinama yung RAV 4 SV dahil papalitan na to this year diba at hindi sila nakahiram ng Accord 2.4 sa test na yan.Wala pa dyan yung Accent at Getz CRDi dahil nung December lang nilabas yan diba at two or maybe three months ago pa yang test nila na yan...

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    may xwind kme, but i havent tested its consumption yet. pero alam ko matipid. kse alam ko before i went to tagaytay and back with 200pesos worth of gas. around 20+ ung diesel nun.

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