diesel or gas

**kumagbehota** · July 18th, 2008 10:17 AM

mga bossing, napapansin ko kasi (at mukang tuloy tuloy na) na lumalapit ng magdikit ang presyo ng diesel at gas sa mga gas stations. considering na mas mahal lagi ng 50k plus ang diesel vehicles over gas (innova, fortuner, carens, etc) praktikal pa ba bumili ng diesel? me malaking advantage pa ba ang diesel features over gas considering na may pending prob pa ang D4D? ksi yung officemate ko nag dadalawang isip, dati firm sya na diesel innova ang kukunin nya....

**tidus1203** · July 18th, 2008 10:24 AM

Diesel has better fuel economy over gas engines so lamang ka doon. Ang magic number na dapat mo tanungin is your mileage? I think the magic number should be around 15,000km a year anything below that I think you're better off with gas parin. Maintenance is also a consideration, most gas engines don't need oil changes until every 10,000km especially if you use fully syntehtic, diesel goes around 5000km or so. The oil of diesel engines is a tad bit more expensive too comapred to the oil for gas engines. Buti nga sa Innova mga P60K lang difference sa Carens its a whooping P205,000 difference!!!! Also let me tell you that in the world markets DIESEL IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN GAS. Dunno if that will happen here since the government will always try its best to manipulate the markets, I doubt their success though...

**kumagbehota** · July 18th, 2008 10:49 AM

dati ang nakikita ko kasing obvious advantage ng diesel over gas variants is yung fuel mileage nya and yung price ng diesel per liter... ngayon kung quits na ang price nila, fuel mileage na lang ang advantage, ngayon kung mas tataas pa in the long run ang diesel pump price eh di magiging quits na din pati fuel mileage since i-oofset na ng lamang ng mileage yung lamang sa price...

then me prob pa ang D4D, "mas" mausok compared sa gas, "mas" maingay kesa sa gas, mas mahal ang maintenance at higit sa lahat mas mahal ang base price... yun nga lang torquey sya, pero bukod dun parang wala ng advantage eh...

**XTO** · July 18th, 2008 10:51 AM

Toyota in particular? I’ll go with their VVTi

instead of their D-4D:hook1:

this thread will also help though it’s not purely for Toyotas.

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...=diesel+OR+gas

**nitrox** · July 18th, 2008 11:01 AM

I just read in the papers that oil companies will continue to raise the price of diesel for 'under-recoveries', while maintaining the price of gasoline. So the benefit of diesel being cheaper than gasoline may not be true in the long run.

Another thing to think about is if your officemate plans to install an LPG fuel system in his car, then gasoline is the way to go.

**kumagbehota** · July 18th, 2008 11:03 AM

^ yup gas and diesel toyotas in particular, na sight ko lang na example yung carens sa pricing

**tidus1203** · July 18th, 2008 11:03 AM

Ah yes kung nag-LPG ka pa wala na talagang sinabi ang diesel....

**coiter** · July 18th, 2008 11:07 AM

parang mileage at torque na lang nga lamang ng diesel. pati nga yung advantage sana ng diesel sa baha medyo na cancel out na kasi may electronics na rin sya.

but as far as i know, diesel engines are theoretically supposed to last longer than gas (assuming same level of maintenance) since it was built to be stronger because of the higher compression and its intended use. also, in case of emergencies, diesels can run on other fuels. even plain old cooking oil. pero syempre, in the real world, di mo iisipin yan hehehe.

anyway, one thing din, pansin ko mas mataas resale value ng diesel engined vehicles vs their gas engined variants. pero most likely babaliktad sya once mas mahal na ang diesel fuel sa gas.

**ghosthunter** · July 18th, 2008 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by kumagbehota

mga bossing, napapansin ko kasi (at mukang tuloy tuloy na) na lumalapit ng magdikit ang presyo ng diesel at gas sa mga gas stations. considering na mas mahal lagi ng 50k plus ang diesel vehicles over gas (innova, fortuner, carens, etc) praktikal pa ba bumili ng diesel? me malaking advantage pa ba ang diesel features over gas considering na may pending prob pa ang D4D? ksi yung officemate ko nag dadalawang isip, dati firm sya na diesel innova ang kukunin nya....

If it was me, I'd go for the gasoline version. Use the price difference to have an auto-lpg system installed.

IF they are serious about buying now, check with different dealers in how they will consider the vehicle warranty in regards to auto-lpg conversion. If you don't want to bother with the warranty, you can also consider buying slightly used vehicles with two to three years of ownership.