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  1. john andobar
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    March 31st, 2005 05:46 AM #1
    Totoo yan...world market ang may dikta nyan....wala tayong magagawa kahit sa US almost $2.50 na ngayon per gallon....dapar sa OPEC tayo mag rally...hindi sa kalsada natin..lalo lang magkaka traffic...'wag natin gayahin ang mga jeepney driver...yan lang ang alam nilang paraan hindi nila alam sila parin ang nahihirapan...at mga pasahiro nila.//
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    March 31st, 2005 11:55 AM #2
    Mabuti pa ang Biodiesel ni Garyq hindi tumataas. If the time comes wherein the price of diesel hits 60.00, mag BD nalang ako na puro.

    Teka, im still wondering why the gov't isnt considering developing BD? I mean, hindi ba pwedeng magtanim nalang ng maraming coconut trees para sa development nito? Hehe isnt it that simple? Whats the current update ba regarding biodiesel?

    Cleaner pa.
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    March 31st, 2005 12:23 PM #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms
    Mabuti pa ang Biodiesel ni Garyq hindi tumataas. If the time comes wherein the price of diesel hits 60.00, mag BD nalang ako na puro.
    O nga no hehe.
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    March 31st, 2005 12:04 PM #4
    totoo yun---it is dat simple!


    But POLITICS makes it very complicated!!!!
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    March 31st, 2005 01:43 PM #5
    KSTC anyone? :lol: :lol:
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    March 31st, 2005 03:00 PM #6
    Djerms

    yung process ng pagawa ng Bio Diesel ata comsumes alot of energy itself, kaya mahal ang production nito, di ata parang i sala mo lang ang katas ng mga organics para makuha mo yun.


    parang sinasabi ng research, kung gagawa ka ng 2 liter na biodiesel kailangan mo mag sunog ng 1 liter more or less para maka produce nito, ok sana kung abundant ang supply ng niyog at iba pa. kasi kung hindi ako nagkakamali heat din kailangan para maka produce ng bio diesel.
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    March 31st, 2005 03:12 PM #7
    mazda,

    according to nat geo, the supply is diminishing in the sense that existing fields in some places are starting to run dry (either reduced output or need more work and energy to extract the same amount of output) and major new fields aren't being discovered.
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    March 31st, 2005 03:35 PM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by mbt
    mazda,

    according to nat geo, the supply is diminishing in the sense that existing fields in some places are starting to run dry (either reduced output or need more work and energy to extract the same amount of output) and major new fields aren't being discovered.
    yup... the cost of extracting oil is getting higher (as what you said... more work / energy to extract the same output). that's why we have high oil prices.

    btw, a large part of the protected Alaskan wilderness is sitting on one huge oil field. is America "reserving" this for dire times?

    How about Hydrogen powered cars? AFAIK BMW has one. Mahal lang ata yung production.
    hydrogen is ok. only prob with that is the storage & needed infrastructure to distribute it. they are saying that China *might* be the pilot country for the use of hydrogen for vehicles.

    production right now is costly as they are producing one-off machines. but once you mass-produce it the price will inevitably drop.
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    March 31st, 2005 03:28 PM #9
    How about Hydrogen powered cars? AFAIK BMW has one. Mahal lang ata yung production.
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    March 31st, 2005 04:17 PM #10
    Japan has experimented on almost every type of alternative for fossil fuel. Pati natural gases 'ata na galing sa biodegradable na basura eh na-utilize na nila.
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    March 31st, 2005 04:23 PM #11
    I forgot to mention... baka buhayin yung waste to crude oil na plant. Sa amount ng basura na nakukuha from Manila, mga 10,000 barrels a day daw ang kayang ma produce.
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    March 31st, 2005 04:24 PM #12
    Germany during World War II, made their own fuel. It was hard for them to invade or get thru the oil refineries in Russia etc... so they studied and experimented and viola! man-made fuel.
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    March 31st, 2005 04:24 PM #13
    Quote Originally Posted by nicolodeon
    Pati natural gases 'ata na galing sa biodegradable na basura eh na-utilize na nila.
    Bagay dito yan, we have an abundant supply of garbage
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    March 31st, 2005 04:35 PM #14
    Mojo,
    Thanks for the clarification. Sana nga as early as now mag invest na ang government sa production ng raw materials for biodiesel. Para hindi tayo maging dependent sa imports ng diesel fuel.
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    March 31st, 2005 05:49 PM #15
    law of supply and demand...

    in the last 4 or 5 years, China has been growing their car/automotive industry by the millions... they even manufacture their own cars... imagine, a population of a billion... wait and see when india does the same... lahat tataas... wag naman sana...
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    April 1st, 2005 07:50 AM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by igor
    law of supply and demand...

    in the last 4 or 5 years, China has been growing their car/automotive industry by the millions... they even manufacture their own cars... imagine, a population of a billion... wait and see when india does the same... lahat tataas... wag naman sana...
    it is estimated that by the year 2007 the demand of gas/oil will be higher than the supply....patay na tayong lahat siguradong tataas ang presyo at never nang bababa.
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    March 31st, 2005 11:59 PM #17
    sana magfund ng research at production para yumaman ang bansa natin using coconuts!
    Ayaw kasi gamitin mga coconuts ng gobyerno!
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    April 1st, 2005 12:02 AM #18
    sayang sana pilipinas. abundant naman sa possible resources. kaso parang alang patutunguhan.
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    April 1st, 2005 08:50 AM #19
    how about the CNG reserves? is it true daw na one by product is diesel. or if full operation na CNG swap for crude oil. sa mga countries that needs it.
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    April 1st, 2005 09:04 AM #20
    or diesel daw pwede i convert to cng? diba we have a lot of gas reserves.
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