Diesel Aabot ng 33 pesos sa April

[BlueBimmer]

scooter best compromise for me...

[Mojo]

mahal ang diesel ngayon

sino may kasalanan ayun sa oil company? mga Indians daw, bigla sila ng clean air act, yung refinery nila di kaya mag produce daw ng clean diesel at the moment kaya import sila ng import. sa dami ng mga indians may diesel na sasakyan tataas talaga

sana daw dis month malunasan nila yung refinery nila

[boydapa]

cyberdoc:

Honestly Guys, I'm surprised to find out from a news I picked-up about a week ago that exported diesel is priced around $70/barrel, while Gasoline is only around $55/barrel. I am not sure why diesel is sold still lower than gasoline in the Philippines.

Anybody knows why?! Government subsidy maybe?

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i knew it----someone would question dis

yun nga eh cyberdoc, mas mahal yun diesel outside the country pero pag dating dito sa bansa baliktad ang nangyayari--yun gasoline ang mas mataas. diskarte kasi yan ng malacanan pinakiusap nila sa mga oil companies na sa gas ipatong yun portion ng tinaas sa diesel---so lamalabas na yun mga gasoline-driven cars ang bumabalikat sa diesel-driven vehicles. eh alam mo naman dito konting taas ng diesel nagrereklamo agad transport sector(mga jeep, bus etc)---in that way less reklamo equals less strikes and less destabilization(praning kasi sila). kaya lugi mga nakagasoline by about 2 petot or more per liter dito sa pinas---ang daya nila!

[ssaloon]

cyberdoc:

Honestly Guys, I'm surprised to find out from a news I picked-up about a week ago that exported diesel is priced around $70/barrel, while Gasoline is only around $55/barrel. I am not sure why diesel is sold still lower than gasoline in the Philippines.

Anybody knows why?! Government subsidy maybe?

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i knew it----someone would question dis

yun nga eh cyberdoc, mas mahal yun diesel outside the country pero pag dating dito sa bansa baliktad ang nangyayari--yun gasoline ang mas mataas. diskarte kasi yan ng malacanan pinakiusap nila sa mga oil companies na sa gas ipatong yun portion ng tinaas sa diesel---so lamalabas na yun mga gasoline-driven cars ang bumabalikat sa diesel-driven vehicles. eh alam mo naman dito konting taas ng diesel nagrereklamo agad transport sector(mga jeep, bus etc)---in that way less reklamo equals less strikes and less destabilization(praning kasi sila). kaya lugi mga nakagasoline by about 2 petot or more per liter dito sa pinas---ang daya nila!

smaller ang excise tax rate ng diesel (P1.63/liter) vs. gasoline (P4.50/liter). and you just dont take the spot rate of 1 day for your pricing when you import. usually, traders use a 10 day or monthly average to compute for the price per barrel.

[cyberdoc95]

smaller ang excise tax rate ng diesel (P1.63/liter) vs. gasoline (P4.50/liter). and you just dont take the spot rate of 1 day for your pricing when you import. usually, traders use a 10 day or monthly average to compute for the price per barrel.

This actually surprises me when excise tax is lower in DIESEL when it is the "more polluting engine-powered vehicles" than its gasoline counterpart. If ako ang tatanungin, since ang diesel causes more people to get sick,which translates to make the government pay more for health services for these hospital consultation/admissions due to pollution, I would say that DIESEL fuel should have been the one that has to be charged with more tax, not GASOLINE.

But then again, the government has odd priorities. They'd rather have a peaceful country with sick people than having a good practice of democracy with healthy citizens.

[cyberdoc95]

cyberdoc:

Honestly Guys, I'm surprised to find out from a news I picked-up about a week ago that exported diesel is priced around $70/barrel, while Gasoline is only around $55/barrel. I am not sure why diesel is sold still lower than gasoline in the Philippines.

Anybody knows why?! Government subsidy maybe?

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i knew it----someone would question dis

yun nga eh cyberdoc, mas mahal yun diesel outside the country pero pag dating dito sa bansa baliktad ang nangyayari--yun gasoline ang mas mataas. diskarte kasi yan ng malacanan pinakiusap nila sa mga oil companies na sa gas ipatong yun portion ng tinaas sa diesel---so lamalabas na yun mga gasoline-driven cars ang bumabalikat sa diesel-driven vehicles. eh alam mo naman dito konting taas ng diesel nagrereklamo agad transport sector(mga jeep, bus etc)---in that way less reklamo equals less strikes and less destabilization(praning kasi sila). kaya lugi mga nakagasoline by about 2 petot or more per liter dito sa pinas---ang daya nila!

Thanks BOYDAPA for the explanation. Tama pala ang hinala ko kasi dito naman kasi, mas mahal ang DIESEL compared to Gasoline. At least now I know why DIESEL is sold cheaper in the PI.

[ILuvDetailing]

Ang pinaka kawawa dito eh yung mga commuters, siguradong tataas yung mga pamasehe ng bus at jeep. Dati nung college 5 petot lang pamasahe ko from evangelista to edsa, ngayon ewan ko na lang.

[1D4LV]

i don't think any rallies will work. yung mga PUV drivers ang tagal na nag rarally.. may nangyayari ba?

besides, i think its really a global trend. my relatives in the states experience rise in gasoline products too.

[eric]

guys, sorry medyo out of topic. how about some out of d box thinking, kung solo ka naman lagi bumibyahe lagi, why not consider using a motorbike or scooter? it can return 45kms-60kms per one liter unleaded gas (sorry, wala pa yata diesel motorbike dito satin). makakalusot ka pa sa trapik. wag lang uulan. yung car mo gamitin mo lang pag umuulan, o pangpamilya.

[mcbry]

scooter nalang para makatipid at ma lessen ang pollution

[ILuvDetailing]

guys, sorry medyo out of topic. how about some out of d box thinking, kung solo ka naman lagi bumibyahe lagi, why not consider using a motorbike or scooter? it can return 45kms-60kms per one liter unleaded gas (sorry, wala pa yata diesel motorbike dito satin). makakalusot ka pa sa trapik. wag lang uulan. yung car mo gamitin mo lang pag umuulan, o pangpamilya.

Can't do that, I carry stuff, like stocks, 1 gal. water containers, my bag, etc. It wouldn't fit a motorcycle. I just judiciously maintain my ride to make it as efficient as possible. Plus its only a 4cyl. so it ain't a gass guzzler.

[rhops]

swak nga motorbike sa summer, kaso problema sa tag ulan. Been really tryin to consider getting a MC kaya lang wala sa budget for this year. ilan kaya km/li ng let say a 200cc MC? 25-30 km/li kaya?

[vicoyski]

If only our mass transport system (LRT 1&2 and MRT 3) were as extensive as those in HK and Singapore, we wouldn't even need scooters ('cept for those trips to the convenience store).

Kaya lang, pati mass transit projects pinupulitika! :fire:

[Mojo]

rhops

40 to 50km

[CLAVEL3699]

for a change diba. kung mga jeep wala nangyayari.

Kung mga private citizen ang magrarally with their vehicle sa dami nun medyo magigising din ang government.

Nung panahon ni Macoy subsidize nang gvt ang pagtaas nang gaso. If i remember it right bihira magtaas nang gaso nung panahon no marcos kasi regulated nila and subsidize by the govt yung ibang pagtataas.

Govt should run a law about that kasi mahirap yan taas lang taas paano naman ang mahihirap kasi sabihin natin kahit sa ibang bansa nangyayari but hindi ganun katindi sa kanila 'coz their govt is doing something tayo ba meron wala naghihintay lang tayo kung kailan tataas. Kung bumaba ba sa world market dito ba sa atin bumababa hindi.

Private citizen not only jeepney and bus driver lang kailangan umalma at magsalita tungkol dito sa usapan na ito.

Kung tayo mga private citizen na ang magsasalita at sigurado kada daan mo isang kanto madami at darami ang sasama sa iyo.

[-emil-]

sam ako sa citizen's strike

[CLAVEL3699]

ok gud!!!

Lets get organize sa " Citizen Strike against oil increase "

1. clavel3699
2. -emil-

sino pa... kung madami na tayo madali na kumuha nang permit sa bawat city na dadaanan natin.

sure kahit sa mga kanto kanto madami susunod sa atin. para hindi naman perwisyo gawin natin sunday yung motorcade na citizen strike

[1997]

Sama ako sa strike.

[nicolodeon]

We can't control the oil price hike. The Philippine government can't do anything about it. Even the mighty United States of America can't do anything about it. In the early '70s, despite all the threats and bruhaha of the US, they could not prevent the oil crisis that hit the whole world during that time. The production of oil and the pricing is controlled by the OPEC. IMHO, there are three reasons why they reduced production and increased the prices:

1. The natural supply for crude oil is diminishing. So, it is but natural that they would cut the production so that the resource does not dwindle further. If that importance resource dwindles, then the whole industrialized world who still relies on fossil fuel would have a rude awakening.
2. They want to make more money. Hey, it's still a business. Them OPEC folks know that no matter what, almost all countries would bite the price bullet. There is no widely-used alternative for fossil fuel. By cutting their production, it ensures that in the decades to come, they still have this importance resource that brings cash to their country.
3. They have it, so countries that don't would come no matter what.

While I am against this insane pricing scheme that these Arabs are doing, no matter what protest we Pinoys do would fall on deaf ears: we are not major international players.

Now, if only the EU countries, the US, Canada, Australia, China, Japan and all big-wig countries get their act together, then maybe they can tell them OPEC people to chill and stop being so damned greedy.

Lastly, an efficient, effective and cheap alternative to fossil fuel must be found soon. Otherwise, in the coming years the whole industrialized world might be stepping into some serious s***t.

[mazdamazda]

1. The natural supply for crude oil is diminishing. So, it is but natural that they would cut the production so that the resource does not dwindle further. If that importance resource dwindles, then the whole industrialized world who still relies on fossil fuel would have a rude awakening.

no. the supply of crude oil isn't diminishing YET. OPEC is maintaining a 15M barrels / day production.

the problem is that the demand for crude oil is skyrocketing! factor developing countries & cold spells.

OPEC is also targetting $40 - $50 barrel crude oil price (that is why they recently jacked up production by 500K barrels / day).

Lastly, an efficient, effective and cheap alternative to fossil fuel must be found soon. Otherwise, in the coming years the whole industrialized world might be stepping into some serious s***t.

actually, the recent oil price hikes also have a positive effect. it will make the development & production of alternative fuels more viable.

if only Iraq & Iran can get their acts together... they will be able to stabilize oil prices.