Coco Diesel vs. Warranty

[cj]

peeps (specially boss boknoyxtrm and rsnald),

i have friends who swear that they have noticed marked improvements in their diesel rides after adding cocodiesel. if your ride is new will it void the warranty?

salamat po

[rsnald]

peeps (specially boss boknoyxtrm and rsnald),

i have friends who swear that they have noticed marked improvements in their diesel rides after adding cocodiesel. if your ride is new will it void the warranty?
salamat po

as for voiding the warranty, si boknoyXTRM makakasagot nyan.
as for the cocodiesel, proven na talaga good effects nyan. but word of caution ko lang... meron na kasing specs for cocodiesel. I dunno about the cocodiesel that's already out of the market if they meet the specs. word of caution ko lang, use it very moderately. do not load more 1% by volume muna, say for 50 liters, half liter lang ilagay nyo.
the specs is one of the reasons why we're postponing going into commercial scale production of cocodiesel.

[woodfire]

up to 10% safe ang methyl coco ester. however, it is advisable to put 5% only.

[Yellow]

I've been using it for 1 month there is an improvement, less visible smoke, and more power I can shift gears at a lower rpm than before, and I've been adding 2% of my full tank only.

Thanks sir woodfire for giving me info about this product.
:D

[roydok]

I don't think it will void your warranty.

[benny010]

oopppss. :?
saan ba nakakabili ng cocodiesel?
pwede ba 'to sa trooper?

[woodfire]

cocomethyl ester drastially reduces sulfur in diesel fuel, hence, the favorable emission effect. moreover, it also adds "lubricity" to the fuel so as not to damage the innards of your engine and fuel injector. these advantages can only be had with a coconut-based ester/biodiesel.

the biodiesel used in europe comes from rapeseed which also reduces sulfur content of diesel fuel but does not add lubricity. remember that sulfur is the main ingredient of lubricity in our diesel fuel so if you reduce it w/o replacing lubricity, adverse effects in the engine can be experience in the long run!

[hybrid]

Where is this available? sounds like a good product, how about the price?

[HBOY]

where and how much? pwede ba sa lumang diesel yan? say 1979 era na makina?

[Yellow]

Its available at Senbel Fine Chemicals in alabang Richville Tower, roughly around 54 pesos per liter lumalabas ang 20 liters, problem is just called them up today to order another batch they don't retail anymore sa main office nila, they have distributors at QC and Makati, try calling them at 8506877 to get more info where you can buy some, It really helps, more of a preventive maintenance and improvement of the quality of our diesel.

[rsnald]

cocomethyl ester drastially reduces sulfur in diesel fuel, hence, the favorable emission effect. moreover, it also adds "lubricity" to the fuel so as not to damage the innards of your engine and fuel injector. these advantages can only be had with a coconut-based ester/biodiesel.

the biodiesel used in europe comes from rapeseed which also reduces sulfur content of diesel fuel but does not add lubricity. remember that sulfur is the main ingredient of lubricity in our diesel fuel so if you reduce it w/o replacing lubricity, adverse effects in the engine can be experience in the long run!

comment lang ako woodfire ha.. I hope you won't mind. gusto ko lang i-clarify yung post mo.
it reduces the sulfur of diesel by dilution, it does not actually "eat up" the sulfur in diesel, it only dilutes it. so technically, tama ka it reduces the net sulfur emissions since cocodiesel itself contains very negligible amount of sulfur. pero yung existing sulfur sa diesel mo, andun pa rin, na dilute lang. lalo na if you add a lot, say 50%. if you go 50/50, you cut sulfur by half, and so on and so forth.

tama ka, cocodiesel adds lubricity, lahat ng biodiesels, whether derived from coco oil, soya oil, or rapeseed oil etc. adds lubricity. this is what they advocate in europe and in the U.S. as lubricating additive for their low sulfur diesels. now, whether coco or rapeseed or soya is better in terms of imparting lubricity, I really cannot comment yet. wala pa kong nakikitang data proving that one is better than the other in terms of imparting lubricity.
ang merong data, mas mataas ang cetane rating ng cocodiesel compared to biodiesels derived from soya or rapeseed (70 for coco, vs. 53-58 for soya and rapeseed). kaya napapansin nyo siguro na mas malakas ang hatak. pero, mas mababa ang heat content ng biodiesels vs. true diesel. Meaning, a liter of cocodiesel will not give you the same mileage as one liter of diesel. slightly less lang "daw". this is a minor disadvantage since we're not going to use pure cocodiesel as fuel. the tradeoff is that you'll emit less pollution.

regading yung dosage of use, for relatively new engines, wala masyado advantage ito other than keeping your emissions cleaner and your fuel injectors clean. kaya ang opinion namin e 1-2% lang ok na for new engines. For older engines, the advise was to use in small quantities initially then gradually ramp up to 5% up to 50% if you can afford to do so. the reason for this is to prevent any gum or dirt that has accumulated in your fuel lines to be suddenly washed towards your fuel injectors and cylinders. this might cause some engine problems daw. yun ang sabi nung German na nakausap namin. This was verified by our experience when we tested 100% cocodiesel in an old (7-8 year old?) L200 crew cab, 4d56 engine ata.

As to the long term effects on engine fouling, wala pa kong nakikitang data about cocodiesel. supposed to be gagawin ng DOE yun pero wala akong balita if it proceeded. malaking budget kailangan nila e. Meron nakong nakitang data for rapeseed biodiesel. meron daw improvement in terms of lessening fouling in fuel injectors, cylinder head, pistons and combustion chambers. But, and a big but! the biodiesel must pass the specs for "total glycerides" -- yung amount ng unreacted oil na ginamit to make the biodiesel. kaya again, what's important here is that the biodiesel should pass the specs. para siguradong walang sabit.

peace
:wink:


*benny10

oopppss. :?
saan ba nakakabili ng cocodiesel?
pwede ba 'to sa trooper?

my boss actually uses biodiesel on his 2002 model Trooper. it improves power output daw. lessens engine noise (sabi ng driver nya) and lessens black smoke. mukhang hindi designed for high sulfur content diesel ang engine ng Trooper. usukin e.

[Yellow]

rsnald,

Nice info so thats why doon sa instructions ng bio diesel ng senbel fine chemicals put in 5% of your fuel tank for the first time then 2% succeding full tanks. and there is even a warning to check the fule filter to be sure.

[OTEP]

if your ride is new will it void the warranty?

Yes it will void your warranty. But who's to know? hehehe. Kahit ihi ang ilagay mo sa tanke wala nang makakapansin niyan.

[benny010]

ok, i'll try this when I get my new trooper....
cguro after a month of use, so that i could compare the effects...:wink:

[woodfire]

i took the liberty of passing this thread to the principals of Senbel. I would assume that they would prepare a brief on the characteristics pros/cons of their biodiesel product versus those available in other countries particularly Europe.

I also requested them to provide hard data that was submitted to DOE which was validated etc....

I would rather have these guys pass on information to you guys since they are into this for quite some time already. I am merely one of their bankers.

[benny010]

bankers? :?

will wait for the pros/cons... :arrow:

[cj]

peeps, salamat po sa inyong inputs!

rsnald, have you tried this yet? if i remember correctly you wanted to try this on your XTO. natuloy ba? si boknoy havent replied eh. busy na naman siguro

[rsnald]

peeps, salamat po sa inyong inputs!

rsnald, have you tried this yet? if i remember correctly you wanted to try this on your XTO. natuloy ba? si boknoy havent replied eh. busy na naman siguro

ginamit ko sya last January a few weeks before my emission testing. naka-ilang litro din ako, pero after I passed, tinigil ko na. wala namang epekto masyado sa power, saka pasado naman sa emission e :D
pero parang gusto ko ulit subukan on a long term basis.

[cj]

rsnald,

pre, when you were using it, tumahimik ba makina mo?

[cj]

rsnald,

pre, when you were using it, tumahimik ba makina mo?