Latest European Diesel Engine compatible or not with our local diesel?

[forxcrawler]

any insights/feedback on this?

[jick.cejoco]

any insights/feedback on this?

they use the same fuel cetane number but low sulfur. quicker in response, quieter and burns cleaner. sometimes you can't distinguish which is which on the road until you see the "D" on the tail. new developments led to better fuel mileage and low emissions

[Quint]

Our fuel is struggling to make Euro II compliance. The cars that are coming out today are already at Euro V. Although these are just emission standards, I think that the mix or chemical composition is still sub-standard and dirty for the kind of technology that's available today.

Nonetheless, I still go for a diesel. Diesel technology today is more efficient (and more powerful) than gas. If its any indication, more than 40% of European cars are already diesel. Go figure.

[forxcrawler]

Our fuel is struggling to make Euro II compliance. The cars that are coming out today are already at Euro V. Although these are just emission standards, I think that the mix or chemical composition is still sub-standard and dirty for the kind of technology that's available today.

Nonetheless, I still go for a diesel. Diesel technology today is more efficient (and more powerful) than gas. If its any indication, more than 40% of European cars are already diesel. Go figure.

ic, will our diesel being poor, cause major problems to those engines like choking, clogging of fuel lines, etc.?

yep i'm really amazed with how fuel efficient today's latest diesel engine, imagine 22km/L? :D

i hope our diesel fuel can catch up with euro diesel, i dont know if the price will catch up also. Or they can offer people another line of diesel like premium diesel (w/c is a euro V compliant of course)haha i think the fuel consumption of euro V diesels can still compensate the price increase, in an assumption that they(oil players) dont price it ridiculously.

[niky]

Some manufacturers refuse to release their latest or most powerful diesels here because of the fuel... Case in point: BMW refuses to release the 35d equipped models because of concerns with the fuel. The 300hp 3.0 straight six 35d engines are highly strung, and they're worried about warranty issues if the owner puts in a batch of bad diesel.

If we do go Euro V with the diesel, it will cost around 50 pesos at the pumps. Most consumers will not like that... and the government will not be able to justify a subsidy for diesel that will only benefit "rich" owners of CRDi cars. Though they will happily continue to ignore air quality issues in the metro and subsidize fuel for smoke-belching buses and jeeps that don't even have catalytic converters or particulate filters... simply because it's the "makatao" thing to do...

[forxcrawler]

Some manufacturers refuse to release their latest or most powerful diesels here because of the fuel... Case in point: BMW refuses to release the 35d equipped models because of concerns with the fuel. The 300hp 3.0 straight six 35d engines are highly strung, and they're worried about warranty issues if the owner puts in a batch of bad diesel.

If we do go Euro V with the diesel, it will cost around 50 pesos at the pumps. Most consumers will not like that... and the government will not be able to justify a subsidy for diesel that will only benefit "rich" owners of CRDi cars. Though they will happily continue to ignore air quality issues in the metro and subsidize fuel for smoke-belching buses and jeeps that don't even have catalytic converters or particulate filters... simply because it's the "makatao" thing to do...

aww... i feel bad after reading this. is this the main reason why the subaru boxer diesel still not in our shores? and other local euro car seller not importing diesels, is there no way to make those cars compatible with our substandard diesel fuel?

[Quint]

Some manufacturers refuse to release their latest or most powerful diesels here because of the fuel... Case in point: BMW refuses to release the 35d equipped models because of concerns with the fuel. The 300hp 3.0 straight six 35d engines are highly strung, and they're worried about warranty issues if the owner puts in a batch of bad diesel.

If we do go Euro V with the diesel, it will cost around 50 pesos at the pumps. Most consumers will not like that... and the government will not be able to justify a subsidy for diesel that will only benefit "rich" owners of CRDi cars. Though they will happily continue to ignore air quality issues in the metro and subsidize fuel for smoke-belching buses and jeeps that don't even have catalytic converters or particulate filters... simply because it's the "makatao" thing to do...

I agree. I'm sure a lot of them are holding back. This is precisely why my blood boils over government officials. For the lack of planning and foresight, the people are always short changed. When will we ever progress?!!!

If you think about it, the solution here is an effective and efficient transport system. Then we reduce the number of vehicles on the road, and the commuting public is not compromised. Those who can afford premium diesel can drive quality vehicles. I for one commute if I think the route is convenient to take i.e. Makati MRT to QC (Trinoma MRT) or other MRT/LRT stops. Its cheaper, its faster, and there's less hassle.

But back to topic, I think people won't mind paying for a premium diesel if it saves mileage either. But then again, at this point that would be selfish, right? Sigh.