Caltex/Chevron with Techron now Euro4

[StockEngine]

Kelan kaya ang shell? Sayang points sa advantage card at shell citi na 5% rebate. Sa Unioil pa din kasi ako.

December ang shell euro4

[jaggerx3]

Petron Turbo Diesel pa din gamit ko since Euro 4 na sila. Hirap caltex dito malayo

[StockEngine]

ah ok.... if it contributes to longer injector and engine oil life + less pollution, worth it pala.

Engine oil will darken at a longer time for euro4 vs euro2

[StockEngine]

Sometimes, yung dinedeliver sa independent, walang additives. Minsan, exactly the same product as in the branded stations.

Di rin totoo na 70% gas lang ang kinakarga. Worst they can do is miss out on calibrating the pumps. But hindi malaki ang variance niyan. Malaki na ang 5% difference.

May ibang generic though na hindi kumukuha directly from wholesalers. Bumibili sila from mga paihi ng mga driver, yung mga nakaw na produkto. Eto yung mas shady. Meron din yung iba hinahaluan ng methanol yung produkto nila para mas mura tapos bebenta ng regular price. Iba iba talaga depending on the area.

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Bro is there a way to know that shell/caltex/petron stations in marikina are selling exactly what they're suppose to sell?

For example the petron station sa adb avenue. I think thats a legit station right? Or yun mga mga nasa c-5. Or im 15% wrong. Hahaha. Over analyzing *sh1turd*.

Or sa provinces lng nag kaka-wholesale fraud? Like crossbuying like what you mentioned earlier in this thread.

[StockEngine]

not impressed by caltex announcement to go euro4... they can do it anytime since imported naman ang product nila yet nag hihintay pa sila ng 2016 to implement as mandated by DOE, nasaan ang care for the environment initiative ninyo?

The taiwanese refinery took awhile to upgrade...

[radz15]

The taiwanese refinery took awhile to upgrade...

Akala ko sa Petron lang sila nakuha ng supply.

[jut703]

totoo ba na shell is getting their Metro Manila supply from Total?

Yes. You can check Total's Manila North Harbor Terminal, puro Shell lorries. [emoji28]

jut703,

Since fuels can be labeled Euro 4 or higher but its the quality that most of the times fail our engines. I am more interested in quality standards ng mga big players. Shell pa din ba ang pinaka okay sa handling ng fuels? Or wala na ba sila lahat pakialam once they distribute to the local stations? Minsan kasi Euro 4 nga pero dumi naman ng stations.

Among the major players, Shell is the strictest when it comes to standards. Caltex din before, but today, Caltex stations are mostly handled by wholesalers. IIRC, kung tama yung kwento ng Caltex friend ko, 19 nalang ang station na hawak directly ng Caltex, mostly the key sites in Metro Manila. Generally mga multinationals (Shell, Caltex, Total) ok ang standards. For the big Petrons, very good quality din. For the Petron Bulilits, not so much since provincial quality control just isnt as good as sa Metro.

not impressed by caltex announcement to go euro4... they can do it anytime since imported naman ang product nila yet nag hihintay pa sila ng 2016 to implement as mandated by DOE, nasaan ang care for the environment initiative ninyo?

Mas mahal Euro 4. Why increase product cost and decrease profitability if you don't have to?

The taiwanese refinery took awhile to upgrade...

Not all of Caltex stock is imported, yung iba borrowing lang from the depots of other oil companies all over the country.


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[Stigg ma]

Mas mahal Euro 4. Why increase product cost and decrease profitability if you don't have to?

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thanks sir, i understand... economics plays a big part here, wherein the profit is more important than the long term environmental effect...

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Mas mahal Euro 4. Why increase product cost and decrease profitability if you don't have to?

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thanks sir, i understand... economics plays a big part here, wherein the profit is more important than the long term environmental effect...

[Djerms]

Thanks jut703 for the information

[vinj]

Yes. You can check Total's Manila North Harbor Terminal, puro Shell lorries. [emoji28]



Among the major players, Shell is the strictest when it comes to standards. Caltex din before, but today, Caltex stations are mostly handled by wholesalers. IIRC, kung tama yung kwento ng Caltex friend ko, 19 nalang ang station na hawak directly ng Caltex, mostly the key sites in Metro Manila. Generally mga multinationals (Shell, Caltex, Total) ok ang standards. For the big Petrons, very good quality din. For the Petron Bulilits, not so much since provincial quality control just isnt as good as sa Metro.



Mas mahal Euro 4. Why increase product cost and decrease profitability if you don't have to?



Not all of Caltex stock is imported, yung iba borrowing lang from the depots of other oil companies all over the country.


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May tiga-Caltex dito sa tsikot board na kilala namin ni CB but lately di nag-post.

[crazy_boy]

May tiga-Caltex dito sa tsikot board na kilala namin ni CB but lately di nag-post.

busy si sir, bihira ko makita

[baludoy]

The taiwanese refinery took awhile to upgrade...

so ngayon lang din sila (taiwan) mag-adapt ng euro 4 category fuels bro?

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The taiwanese refinery took awhile to upgrade...

so ngayon lang din sila (taiwan) mag-adapt ng euro 4 category fuels bro?

[StockEngine]

so ngayon lang din sila (taiwan) mag-adapt ng euro 4 category fuels bro?

they're beyond euro4 na. their refinery catered to foreign markets.