BEST Unleaded Fuel: Shell, Petron or Caltex

**jut703** · January 24th, 2015 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Stigg ma

baket po si petron lang ang meron RON 93 sa big three?

Kasi magulo product segmentation nila. They're selling Xtra Advance as 93 octane to supposedly market it as superior to FuelSave or Silver which is 91 RON. I think though that it would be much easier if they just dropped Super Xtra and marketed Xtra Advance as 91 RON para 3 grades lang like everyone else.

Kawawa dealer, kailangan nakahati yung UGT niya into separate partitions pa para pwede iaccommodate yung maraming product grade. Other stations usually 1 product per tank lang.

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**jut703** · January 24th, 2015 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by luis_

Paano ba symptoms kung may halong tubig/madumi yung fuel?

May pinagkaiba rin ba quality ng refined dito at imported?

Water in your fuel will make your vehicle stall.

As for quality of refined vs imported, like I said previously, all base fuels have to meet certain requirements of the DOE, regardless where the fuel came from. Only Shell and Petron have local refineries, but their products aren't noticeably different from that of other companies.

The decision to have a refinery is driven more by economies of scale than it is by quality. Only companies with large enough volumes nationwide can afford to maintain a refinery. All smaller players have to import.

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**dr. d** · January 24th, 2015 11:31 AM

baka naman ang RON 93 customers nila ay ang briggs & stratton fans club.. as well as RON 91 users who want a little more oomph...

**dr. d** · January 24th, 2015 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

Found some few articles that you might find interesting:

Is Cheap Gas Bad for Your Car?

No Reason Not To Use Cheap Off-Brand Gas - Business Insider

Basically, it just reiterates what I've been saying that all base fuels are mostly the same, but nagkakatalo lang sa additives. In fact in the Philippines, sometimes yung binibenta sa independent station is exactly the same as what the branded company sells.

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MANY years ago, i have been bulonged by someone in the know, that when some dealers run out of fuel supplies, they just buy from "other brands who are willing to sell to them". dunno if this is true.
but same-type fuels of different brands are mix-and-match...

**miked** · January 24th, 2015 01:23 PM

regarding regular diesel, shell ang primary ko dahil advantage card. mas maganda ang andar at arangkada ng makina kesa nung nasa petron. ok din yung diesel ng caltex.

regarding gasoline, hanggat kakayanin ng makina na hindi kakatok e regular ang ikakarga ko. mas dense ang energy content (thus more km/liter). mga makabagong gas engine lang naman maarte.

btw, high RON do not equate to higher power, speed, etc. sabi sabi lang yan

**miked** · January 24th, 2015 01:25 PM

regarding regular diesel, shell ang primary ko dahil advantage card. mas maganda ang andar at arangkada ng makina kesa nung nasa petron. ok din yung diesel ng caltex.

regarding gasoline, hanggat kakayanin ng makina na hindi kakatok e regular ang ikakarga ko. mas dense ang energy content (thus more km/liter). mga makabagong gas engine lang naman maarte.

btw, high RON do not equate to higher power, speed, etc. sabi sabi lang yan

**dr. d** · January 24th, 2015 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by miked

btw, high RON do not equate to higher power, speed, etc. sabi sabi lang yan

i wholly agree. but you know motorists.. they believe what they want to believe.. and they do not want to believe that they are spending more money in exchange for... nothing more.

**sp00nman** · January 24th, 2015 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Found some few articles that you might find interesting:

Is Cheap Gas Bad for Your Car?

No Reason Not To Use Cheap Off-Brand Gas - Business Insider

Basically, it just reiterates what I've been saying that all base fuels are mostly the same, but nagkakatalo lang sa additives. In fact in the Philippines, sometimes yung binibenta sa independent station is exactly the same as what the branded company sells.

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so me mga additives din yung sa independent stations, ala lang "marketing"? Have you tried using any of those ser jut703?

gusto ko din sana i-try yung iba like Phoenix at Seaoil pero wala dito banda area namin(Tanauan Batangas) me nakita ako Filoil. So far yung 4 major lang nagagamit ko.

**jut703** · January 24th, 2015 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by sp00nman

so me mga additives din yung sa independent stations, ala lang "marketing"? Have you tried using any of those ser jut703?

gusto ko din sana i-try yung iba like Phoenix at Seaoil pero wala dito banda area namin(Tanauan Batangas) me nakita ako Filoil. So far yung 4 major lang nagagamit ko.

Hindi. Basura customer service nila at madudumi CR eh.

I'd try them if I had no choice, but lagi namang may branded gas station kahit saan ako pumunta. Kung may alam kang wala, sabihan mo ko ng matayuan ko haha.

Anyway, yung iba walang additives, just the base fuel. Yung iba naman, exactly the same as the additives sold by the branded companies. Depende and paiba iba naman kasi ng sources ang independents so hindi mo rin masasabi.

No harm in trying them out bro. Kaso one full tank usually isn't enough to say na brand x is good or if it sucks. It takes several hundred kilometers of testing under consistent conditions to narrow any performance/economy variances down to the fuel used.

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**sp00nman** · January 24th, 2015 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Hindi. Basura customer service nila at madudumi CR eh.

I'd try them if I had no choice, but lagi namang may branded gas station kahit saan ako pumunta. Kung may alam kang wala, sabihan mo ko ng matayuan ko haha.

Anyway, yung iba walang additives, just the base fuel. Yung iba naman, exactly the same as the additives sold by the branded companies. Depende and paiba iba naman kasi ng sources ang independents so hindi mo rin masasabi.

No harm in trying them out bro. Kaso one full tank usually isn't enough to say na brand x is good or if it sucks. It takes several hundred kilometers of testing under consistent conditions to narrow any performance/economy variances down to the fuel used.

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Hahaha- gusto ko na din i-comment kanina yung sa setup/facilities ng independent stations. Nung wala pa kami car, mag CR sana ako sa isang indie na station- pinigil ko na lang ihi ko.

Nakapag test na din kayo sa mga small petrol players? Meron dito ako nakikita Galaxi yung name nya.