Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[Louga]

Tired of your old system not giving you the performance that you need? Trade in your old ECU for a new one! For just 16k you get a new Zavoli 'SMILE' ECU with MAP sensor (for automatic switch over when you run out of LPG) + a new Zavoli Switch! We'll wire your LPG car with a new lease of life!

Compatible ba zavoli ecu sa RAIL injectors? How long yun ecu installation and rewiring?

[XOOMaster]

Yes sir Lou! Zavoli ECU is compatible with Rail Apache injectors. It should take just one day.

[Louga]

Yes sir Lou! Zavoli ECU is compatible with Rail Apache injectors. It should take just one day.

puwede ba trade yun ecu ko?

[openwrench]

well im a taxi operator / driver before and i have my nissan setra LEC converted to LPG . Well as per liter to kilometer comparison parehas lang . should i say 12 km per liter of gasoline is the same sa LPG ( in terms of distance ) . on the down side less ang batak . parang slide ang clutch mo . at ma feel mo yon sure pero konti lang . but on the price per liter less ang LPG ng mga 10 - 15 pesos ( at the ave. ) .
I wont recommend kung madalas ka mag out of town kasi outside manila limited pa ang refilling stn. pero may switch sa loob yon equipt. para you can still use the gasolline in case maubusan ka .
ang installation time : 3 to 4 hrs lang . Cost : b4 25 k installment pa . 4 months to pay .
Ang isa sa ayaw ko lang ay may amoy talaga , well sabi ng ibang drivers namin d nawawala ang ubo nila kaya kung maselan ka eh wag na lang siguro . tapos yon compartment mo kalahati sa tangke na lang punta .
if you have some more questions ask ka lang . . . .

[vinj]

well im a taxi operator / driver before and i have my nissan setra LEC converted to LPG . Well as per liter to kilometer comparison parehas lang . should i say 12 km per liter of gasoline is the same sa LPG ( in terms of distance ) . on the down side less ang batak . parang slide ang clutch mo . at ma feel mo yon sure pero konti lang . but on the price per liter less ang LPG ng mga 10 - 15 pesos ( at the ave. ) .
I wont recommend kung madalas ka mag out of town kasi outside manila limited pa ang refilling stn. pero may switch sa loob yon equipt. para you can still use the gasolline in case maubusan ka .
ang installation time : 3 to 4 hrs lang . Cost : b4 25 k installment pa . 4 months to pay .
Ang isa sa ayaw ko lang ay may amoy talaga , well sabi ng ibang drivers namin d nawawala ang ubo nila kaya kung maselan ka eh wag na lang siguro . tapos yon compartment mo kalahati sa tangke na lang punta .
if you have some more questions ask ka lang . . . .

I've used our 2007 Altis on LPG for the last 5 years and we even bring it out of town (Zambales, Pampanga, Tagaytay, Baguio, etc.) with a full load and running at highway speeds, with hard passing and redline shifts; the LPG range of our car is around 500kms or so and in Baguio they have an LPG station so it's not an issue. Should we run low on LPG, there's always gasoline to switch to (i still warm the car everyday on 100 octane gasoline to run the injectors and ensure better start-up/cold lubrication). With the SGI kit, power is not an issue unless it's not tuned properly or there's a problem with the car or the kit.

Re. the LPG smell, we (and most private vehicle LPG users on this board) never encountered a smell or respiratory problems so it's most likely the condition of the car, the installation, or kit where the problem comes out. Our car is clean and we don't smoke so i guess that helps too. Install time + tuning of the kits takes a day or two or three depending on the tuning bugs that come out (versus 3 to 4 hours??? no wonder taxis have those problems).

*P42K price out for the SGI kit, running an average of 10km/L, it should be break even in a year and a half to two years (running 15,000kms per year).

[mitsuyota_lover]

well im a taxi operator / driver before and i have my nissan setra LEC converted to LPG . Well as per liter to kilometer comparison parehas lang . should i say 12 km per liter of gasoline is the same sa LPG ( in terms of distance ) . on the down side less ang batak . parang slide ang clutch mo . at ma feel mo yon sure pero konti lang . but on the price per liter less ang LPG ng mga 10 - 15 pesos ( at the ave. ) .
I wont recommend kung madalas ka mag out of town kasi outside manila limited pa ang refilling stn. pero may switch sa loob yon equipt. para you can still use the gasolline in case maubusan ka .
ang installation time : 3 to 4 hrs lang . Cost : b4 25 k installment pa . 4 months to pay .
[B]Ang isa sa ayaw ko lang ay may amoy talaga[/B] , well sabi ng ibang drivers namin d nawawala ang ubo nila kaya kung maselan ka eh wag na lang siguro . tapos yon compartment mo kalahati sa tangke na lang punta .
if you have some more questions ask ka lang . . . .

Sir bakit naman may mga nakakausap akong taxi driver tuwing magtataxi ako from sm makati hanggang merville sinasabi nila na ang lpg wala naman amoy yan pareho lang ng gas yan pwera na lang kung may mali sa installation... Baka naman mali lang ung procedure ng installation sa mga unit nyo sir kaya din siguro mura... May nakausap nga akong driver MACRO pa raw naginstall sa unit nya pero may naamoy daw ung driver siguro depende na lang sa nag install yan...

[n5110]

Agree with vinj. I have a venturi kit installed on my civic since 2008 at the height of petrol price of 62/li. Wala naman problema. Sometimes there is a smell of lpg inside the cabin but this can be easily detected and fixed using the olds school soap and water. In less than 2 year recover na ang investment sa kit. Minsan lang nauubos ang lpg sa mga stations. At nakakapagtaka ayaw ng bumaba sa 25 and below range. Parang may nag cocontrol ba.

[vinj]

Agree with vinj. I have a venturi kit installed on my civic since 2008 at the height of petrol price of 62/li. Wala naman problema. Sometimes there is a smell of lpg inside the cabin but this can be easily detected and fixed using the olds school soap and water. In less than 2 year recover na ang investment sa kit. Minsan lang nauubos ang lpg sa mga stations. At nakakapagtaka ayaw ng bumaba sa 25 and below range. Parang may nag cocontrol ba.

Strange no? To think before LPG was running at P 18 to P 20 per liter.

[crazy_boy]

Vinj, how much is good kit nowadays? Im trying to compute if how long ang ROI if we install one sa vios namin. Around 30km per day ang takbo.

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[vinj]

Vinj, how much is good kit nowadays? Im trying to compute if how long ang ROI if we install one sa vios namin. Around 30km per day ang takbo.

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Budget mga low 40s. Dapat everyday yung gamit ng car. 15,000kms a year tapos 10km/L, in two years bawi na yan.

[crazy_boy]

Budget mga low 40s. Dapat everyday yung gamit ng car. 15,000kms a year tapos 10km/L, in two years bawi na yan.

usually nasa 10k km per year lang kami. bihira more than cause office - bahay lang naman yun ng mga sisters ko. i have to think about it cause 5 years na yung vios. baka mabenta na before pa ma-ROI ng 3 years hehe

[vinj]

^Kung bihira gamitin, di ma-sulit pards. In my case, it's the car we use everyday and we installed it when the car was barely a year old. Umabot sa point din that i would even bring that car out of town instead of the family car because i was really saving on fuel expenses. Sarap mag pedal to the metal na hindi mo iniisip ang FC.

[ghosthunter]

^Kung bihira gamitin, di ma-sulit pards. In my case, it's the car we use everyday and we installed it when the car was barely a year old. Umabot sa point din that i would even bring that car out of town instead of the family car because i was really saving on fuel expenses. Sarap mag pedal to the metal na hindi mo iniisip ang FC.

IMHO, an Auto-LPG converted car is actually cheaper to use on out of town drives. You can fill up both LPG and gasoline tanks. Use LPG until empty and switch to gasoline. Double the driving range without refueling.

[vinj]

IMHO, an Auto-LPG converted car is actually cheaper to use on out of town drives. You can fill up both LPG and gasoline tanks. Use LPG until empty and switch to gasoline. Double the driving range without refueling.

Yup, a full Baguio trip would cost me around Php1,500 versus P2,500 to 3,000 on our other cars. I would tank up in Total Balintawak or Uni Oil along Minda Ave. then i would gas up again at Baguio (support na rin for the LPG station there to keep them going). So far i have not driven far enough to warrant a switch back to gas as even my Manila - San Narciso/San Felipe Zambales - Manila roundtrips before could be done on a tank of LPG (300kms vs my 500km tank range).

[sirkosero]

Vinj, how much is good kit nowadays? Im trying to compute if how long ang ROI if we install one sa vios namin. Around 30km per day ang takbo.

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45k ata kay xoom with valve saver for a 1.3 vios

[mark_t]

Definitely a bad idea.

Why would additional lubrication be bad idea?

[mark_t]

I thought that if an engine is built to run on unleaded fuel, valve recession on lpg should not be an issue. Why is it that xoom offers an additive that would prevent valve recession?

Is there really a risk of engine damage because of lpg (aside from those running too lean due to improper tuning)?

Unleaded fuel actually is a fuel that has very minimal lead. It just conforms to a certain market
standard to be called unleaded.

[ghosthunter]

Why would additional lubrication be bad idea?

Adding 2T motor oil to gasoline in an Auto-LPG converted car is a bad idea.

For one, the car will start to emit smoke from its tailpipe when running on gas. The 2T oil will just end up coating the cylinder walls with carbon soot because a 4 stroke engine is not designed for fuel+oil. Next, it will not lubricate the engine when it is using AUTO-LPG because the 2T oil is mixed with the gasoline.

[n5110]

Weekly may byahe ako sa Clark, normal route ko mag full tank sa Total balintawak, kaso madalas wala na hanggang sinabi na hinde na raw sila nagbebenta ng LPG ( tutuo ba?) sa Unioil naman nauubos din. nowadays sa Cleanfuel ako sa Congressional ave, so far laging meron at tumatanggap pa ng credit card. Malaki talaga ang savings sa LPG, bad trip lang talaga at hinde na ito bumababa tulad ng dati . 14 years old na ang kotse ko. planning to upgrade early next year with a 3-4 year old ride. Plano ko Altis na 2009-2010. Syempre convert pa rin sa LPG para continue ang savings

[sirkosero]

went to sm fairview last weekend when i noticed sarado na yung xoom na malapit sa sm fairview. i wonder what happened?