Alternative Fuel Source: Waste Vegetable Oil (WVO) aka Used Cooking Oil [MERGED]

[HBOY]

the show showed a car without any modifications to the engine, and the people getting oil from a deep fry (french fries) and just using a filter to get all the potato gunk....thats about it.. and it ran. (that is kung pareho kami ng napanood..ehehe)

[DatingEx]

Mas mahal lalo na pag ginamit ay Corn Oil or Olive Oil

[hagiber]

Mas mahal nga pero healthy choice naman yung corn and olive oil... para hindi magka heart attack yung makina mo

:-)

[ghosthunter]

BTW, a company is already doing conversion for trucks to use WVO as fuel.

company: BIODRIVE
contact: "Jac"
tel: (632) 480 3903
email: biodriver*gmail.com
website: http://www.biodrive.net

You can contact him for pricing of his products. He does conversion for the trucks, sells the filtration systems for WVO and even sell processed cooling oil in drums.

[casmotmd]

believe it cooking oil can be used as an alternative to good old diesel.
my drive is a MB 240D running on 100% WVO (waste vegetable oil) had it converted 2 weeks ago after 2 months of toying with the idea. you can buy the filtered/processed wvo at php 30.00 a liter or if you own a resto or fast food chain just filter it yourselves ang get free fuel for life.

advantages:
1. really cheap fuel (30 bucks commercially, you can get it as low as 20 per liter un processed)
2. no loss in power ( except on a cold engine/cooking oil must maintain oil temp 60-80 deg celcius)
3. low emmisions( my car never passed emmisions testing when it ran on diesel so i had tested after the conversion.. lo and behold it passed with flying colors)
4. good for the enviroment ( your running on waste)

try checking out this sites

http://www.frybrid.com/
http://www.greasecar.com/
http://www.elsbett.com/us/about-us/introduction.html

ideal car for convertion are indirect fuel injected diesels

most number of converted cars MB 240D, 300D 190D

the guy who converted mine owns a 240D , 300SDL , Pajero and a passenger jeep all running on waste veggie oil.

[smdelfin]

May we know where we can do this conversion for diesel? and how much?

believe it cooking oil can be used as an alternative to good old diesel.
my drive is a MB 240D running on 100% WVO (waste vegetable oil) had it converted 2 weeks ago after 2 months of toying with the idea. you can buy the filtered/processed wvo at php 30.00 a liter or if you own a resto or fast food chain just filter it yourselves ang get free fuel for life.

advantages:
1. really cheap fuel (30 bucks commercially, you can get it as low as 20 per liter un processed)
2. no loss in power ( except on a cold engine/cooking oil must maintain oil temp 60-80 deg celcius)
3. low emmisions( my car never passed emmisions testing when it ran on diesel so i had tested after the conversion.. lo and behold it passed with flying colors)
4. good for the enviroment ( your running on waste)

try checking out this sites

http://www.frybrid.com/
http://www.greasecar.com/
http://www.elsbett.com/us/about-us/introduction.html

ideal car for convertion are indirect fuel injected diesels

most number of converted cars MB 240D, 300D 190D

the guy who converted mine owns a 240D , 300SDL , Pajero and a passenger jeep all running on waste veggie oil.

[ghosthunter]

You can check this website and email "Jac".

http://www.biodrive.net/2985.html

biodriver*gmail.com

[ghosthunter]

OT: I thought diesel engines can directly accept recycled veggie oil, without any conversion? Unless you're talking about conversion of a petrol engine? I am curious about this. Maybe you can elaborate in the "cooking oil as fuel" thread?

The biggest problem with using WVO (waste veggie oil) in diesel engines is starting the engine. Although possible, it takes more effort to start the cold diesel engine using WVO. To get around that problem, a dual fuel system is installed to use diesel fuel to start a cold engine in the morning. After a few minutes to warm up, a valve system replaces the flow of diesel with WVO.

[paolorenzo]

Also just concluded conversion on a fleet of trucks to run on Recycled Vegetable Oil if anyone is interested

OT: I thought diesel engines can directly accept recycled veggie oil, without any conversion? Unless you're talking about conversion of a petrol engine? I am curious about this. Maybe you can elaborate in the "cooking oil as fuel" thread?

[niky]

OT: I thought diesel engines can directly accept recycled veggie oil, without any conversion? Unless you're talking about conversion of a petrol engine? I am curious about this. Maybe you can elaborate in the "cooking oil as fuel" thread?

Yeah. Please do. I'm looking for a kit myself.

While pre-combustion diesel engines can run on WVO with no modifications, you can't store it in the same tanks as your regular diesel. Safety dictates that you start on diesel first, then switch to WVO once the engine has warmed up (WVO requires a heater, just like LPG does, to provide proper fuel flow). While you can do away with installing anything, it pays to be cautious. ;)

[mbeige]

Niky, what you will need for WVO conversion is a separate tank, a means to switch between diesel and WVO, heating elements (possibly run the fuel along the coolant lines, that's one option, or heat the injector lines, that's another), and a good filtration unit and water separator. Remember, WVO contains food particles that even the first filtering may miss.

[mbeige]

OT: I thought diesel engines can directly accept recycled veggie oil, without any conversion? Unless you're talking about conversion of a petrol engine? I am curious about this. Maybe you can elaborate in the "cooking oil as fuel" thread?

Older diesels with robust mechanical fuel injection systems can readily accept veggie oil use (waste or unused) but newer diesels with common rail injection systems will need to use a very small percent only (20% max maybe or even lower) due to the naturally viscous veggie oil. This viscosity can be remedied by running a heating element for the fuel system, diesel and veggie oil has a very high flash point compared to gasoline so it won't readily ignite so heating is highly recommended to thin out the fuel. This is what the conversion does, together with the additional filtration system and ability to allow the driver to switch between diesel or veggie oil if using a two tank system. Even if it's that hot back there, you'll still need to heat up veggie oil to ensure engine longevity.

[ghosthunter]

GREENFUEL is offering a new service.

Waste Vegetable Oil (WVO) conversion (dual tank) for diesel engine vehicles. Run your diesel powered vehicle on cheaper and environmentally better fuel.

They are also developing a filtration system so you can "make" your own fuel from used veggie cooking oil.

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For more details, contact them:

company: GREENFUEL
contact person: Warren
telephone: 535-90-80
mobile number: 0922-813-5116 (Warren)
address: 413 R. Pascual St, (Pioneer Compound) near corner to Nueve de Pebrero St, Mandaluyong City.
email: info*greenfuel.com.ph

[niky]

Oops... my post got moved along with the original.

*mbeige: Pat, I've already got the quotation from the Biodrive guys... but I'm willing to see what Greenfuel has to offer, so I can compare their purification systems.

It's possible our campus can generate about 500 liters a month... or even more... that's enough for this project to be viable... we just have to finish laying the groundwork for fleet-wide implementation.

[mbeige]

Good to see the plans are laid out and ready to roll. My concern at this point, is that I hope whoever goes into business promoting the use of alternative fuel sources, do not mislead the public into buying substandard systems. Such is the case with a Love Craft Biofuels here in Los Angeles.

The filter unit is made of very bad quality and the owner never wanted to discuss the technical aspects of the conversion. More like either buy it or leave. Information is your best friend here.

You'll surely get hungry once you smell the exhaust coming from a converted diesel

[paolorenzo]

And FC will generally be the same between diesel and wvo?

[teejae73]

guys,

i had been using bioexceed ng seaoil for a year na on my adventure 99 model......
ganda ng hatak at performance!!! kala ko nga nun baka mag break down makina ko!!!
ok pala gamitin....
na try ko sa emmission test....
without cleaning and only change oil lang ginawa ko.....bumagsak at the rate of 2.75!!!
tapos bumili ako bioexceed at bumalik ako after 3 days sa testing center......BINGO!!!
nag rate lang ng 0.25!!!!
till now gamit ko pa rin bioexceed!!!!

[garyq]

kimpoy: you would suprise with the tons of data available if you want to use SVO (straight vegetable oil) or WVO(waste v.o) sa diesel. Sobrang daming supplier sa U.S! Basically it is a 2-tank set up wherein the VO is heated to a certain level para ma-burn ng diesel engine. Tapos switch over. Pwedeng pwede gamitin and WVO but you need to filter, dewater and do some mod sa engine. Walang halong iba yung VO. Not for everyone siya but for some DIY katulad ko very interesting. Madami na akong actually naipon na data to do an experiment sa WVO. Google Frybrid, Greasecar, Greasel, etc, etc.

[ifontok]

kimpoy: you would suprise with the tons of data available if you want to use SVO (straight vegetable oil) or WVO(waste v.o) sa diesel. Sobrang daming supplier sa U.S! Basically it is a 2-tank set up wherein the VO is heated to a certain level para ma-burn ng diesel engine. Tapos switch over. Pwedeng pwede gamitin and WVO but you need to filter, dewater and do some mod sa engine. Walang halong iba yung VO. Not for everyone siya but for some DIY katulad ko very interesting. Madami na akong actually naipon na data to do an experiment sa WVO. Google Frybrid, Greasecar, Greasel, etc, etc.

hi Garyq,
ive been reading about biodiesel from WVO, at nalaman ko n methyl alcohol and sodium/potassium hydroxide are one of the raw materials in making this BD. im just wondering if you know a distributor for these two components. because base on what i read in the internet any body can make biodiesel. im planning to make mine.

many thanks,
ifontok from baguio city

[jeanpierre]

Meron akong napanood noon sa BBC tungkol sa vegetable oil. It happened sa UK na the grocery owners were surprised bakit biglang naging mabili yong cooking oil. Then yon nga na discover nila na may mga diesel car owners na gusto maka tipid, mix nila sa diesel ang cooking oil. Daming nahuli bawal daw dahil di maganda ang emission ng car.