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    Quote Originally Posted by valvura View Post
    Please be informed that the next generation of oil extraction will be in the US and Canada once the fossil oil deposits in the Middle East are depleted. Please refer to the attachment "SHALE OIL".
    Other than the enviromental disaster that it would cause with mining a large part of the areas in the map are national parks.

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    hehehe. medyo nagkakainitan na dito ah...
    well its simple in theory, but mahirap gawin sa applied.

    water is hydrogen and oxygen. if someone can build a device which can extract the hydrogen atoms from water, use it for combustion and feed the oxygen atom sa intake and put it inside a car, ayus na.

    tapos ang by product, i-feed sa radiator (dahil water ulit sya), mas ayus.
    mas maganda din kung ang by-product nung combustion is oxygen ulit, para hindi pollutant. makakatulong pa sa global warming.


    sige, popondihan ko kayo. just present to me your ideas and show me a prototype. hehehehehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    hehehe. medyo nagkakainitan na dito ah...
    well its simple in theory, but mahirap gawin sa applied.

    water is hydrogen and oxygen. if someone can build a device which can extract the hydrogen atoms from water, use it for combustion and feed the oxygen atom sa intake and put it inside a car, ayus na.

    tapos ang by product, i-feed sa radiator (dahil water ulit sya), mas ayus.
    mas maganda din kung ang by-product nung combustion is oxygen ulit, para hindi pollutant. makakatulong pa sa global warming.


    sige, popondihan ko kayo. just present to me your ideas and show me a prototype. hehehehehehe.
    I'm getting interested with this phenomenon, this would be the solution of global warming and worsening economy. I thought it's only Dingle has this idea so I'm not so certain with his theory.

    Imagine if you can use water as fuel in your car then you can make a bigger engine and use it as prime mover of a large power plant that generates electricity (parang hydro power plant) so we can get much cheaper electricity. Then no pollution at all. Why dont giant countries make exploration with this? I remember Einstein said you can get a tremendous amount of energy from a single atom by splitting its nucleous by means of fission. Maybe we can derive this (extracting hydrogen from water) from Einstein's theory.

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    vanqrvr said
    he.. he.. he.. medyo nga...
    simple theory nga, mahirap gawin kasi kailangan pa more experiment, hindi naman kasi perfect..
    I'll be waiting for that day you "perfect" the design. But I wouldn't be holding my breath though since I know better.

    H2O yan paghiwalayin ang H2O magiging HHO na or dalawang hydrogen at isang oxygen,... 2H + O = H2O(product of combustion)water ulit labas sa tambutso...
    Like I said, the problem is not combining hydrogen with oxygen. The problem is the power to split water into molecules of hydrogen & oxygen. You will always have an over-unity problem hence the need to add energy from an outside source in the form of fuel or electricity just to continue the cycle.


    hindi magiging pollutant kasi tubig ulit siya paglabas...
    Pollution isn't always a substance. Even waste heat from a process can be considered a pollutant.


    nakaka inspire lang kasi yung iba nagawa na nila, ano pang hinihintay natin?
    For the blind to inspire others for him to lead is such a folly in the making...

    Sometimes, it is truly a wonder that the world was actual able to crawl out of the ignorance of the dark ages of the past into the current technological wonder of a world we live in today.


    simulan na rin natin mag experiment para maprove sa ating sarili, hindi yung puro na lang criticize...
    For any experiment to have a measure of success, it must be founded upon known and tested principles of science. If one make too large a leap in faith with science, there may not be any place to land at the far end of your jump.

    A perpetual motion machine is an experiment in perpetual ignorance of the people who believe in such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redorange View Post
    Other than the enviromental disaster that it would cause with mining a large part of the areas in the map are national parks.
    Even open pit mining can be eco friendly if the mining company would recover the mined area by filling in back the removed earth and rock. This is the current model used by open pit mining and even by garbage landfills in the developed countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Even open pit mining can be eco friendly if the mining company would recover the mined area by filling in back the removed earth and rock. This is the current model used by open pit mining and even by garbage landfills in the developed countries.
    That's a big IF to risk losing some national parks that will never be the same after it has been mined. I'd rather they find alternative fuels or pay higher gas than lose a park that I can take my child to and enjoy with the next generation. Some parts of Europe and Asia already pay 2x as much as the Philippines and the US for fuel so it's just a matter of paying what the rest of the world already does. I figure if I can't afford the fuel then it's time to find something more economical, but I won't risk screwing up the environment more than it already is just to get cheaper gas for another 50 years or less. There is already talk of losing the polar caps in the next few decades and I wouldn't want to face my grandchildren to tell them I sacrificed something of theirs so I could have gas cheaper for a few more years.

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