with the almost weekly increase in the price of gasoline & diesel

**ghosthunter** · April 24th, 2008 04:09 PM

Would there be a point where the world would start going down the drain like in the MAD MAX movies? Where people kill other motorists just for the gasoline in their fuel tank?

**enzo18** · April 24th, 2008 04:23 PM

wag naman sana. sabi ng Chevron may natitira pang half the world's oil. sana may maipalit na dito bago pa maubos.

**basti08** · April 24th, 2008 04:47 PM

guys meron ba sa inyo nakaka tanda sa pinoy inventor na gumawa ng water powered car?

ilang beses sya dati na feature sa magandang gabi bayan etc about his invention but sadly, ayaw sya suportahan ng ating government.

pagkakatanda ko Corolla GLi AE101 facelifted pa nga yung kotse nya eh color red.

Daniel Dinggel ata or something that rhymes ang name nya. sayang kase yung invention nya. dapat mag tayo na lang sya ng conversion station much like those in LPGs para di masayang yun...

**1D4LV** · April 24th, 2008 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by enzo18

wag naman sana. sabi ng Chevron may natitira pang half the world's oil. sana may maipalit na dito bago pa maubos.

if that is the case, then i'll take my mountain bike from las pinas to makati everyday... hehehehehe. exercise pa. i just hope magtayo ang government ng bike lanes down south.

seriously, hindi pa naman siguro mauubos. imho, madaming oil deposits sa palawan tsaka sa spratleys. but we do not have the technology or the resources that will help us drill it. That is why we entered into a joint exploration activity with the other spratley claimants. mga 10% siguro ng ma-eextract dun ang makukuha natin.

there are other options that are already available. Ethanol, Hydrogen, Battery, Solar, etc. But the problem is because they are still new technologies, ang mamahal ng mga otong developed dito. Take the case na lang ng Toyota Prius. Hindi maaafford ng ordinary worker yan (in fact maski mid-level manager, hindi kaya yan...). For ethanol-based fuel, ang mahal ng kotse or the conversion kit. In fact, maski nga LPG conversion kit eh hindi kaya ng ordinaryong empleyado lang.

**ghosthunter** · April 24th, 2008 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by basti08

guys meron ba sa inyo nakaka tanda sa pinoy inventor na gumawa ng water powered car?

ilang beses sya dati na feature sa magandang gabi bayan etc about his invention but sadly, ayaw sya suportahan ng ating government.

pagkakatanda ko Corolla GLi AE101 facelifted pa nga yung kotse nya eh color red.

Daniel Dinggel ata or something that rhymes ang name nya. sayang kase yung invention nya. dapat mag tayo na lang sya ng conversion station much like those in LPGs para di masayang yun...

Daniel Dingle's so-called invention is more of a scam than anything. He was challenged to drive his car from Manila to Baguio and back and only to put in water as fuel. The reason for the challenge is if Dingle has a hidden gasoline tank in his car, the long distance would empty it. Dinggel declined to take on the challenge citing "security" of his car from being stolen by groups with vested interests.

How hard would it to steal a car with "WATER POWERED" painted on all four sides? Not to mention it can be usually found parked in front of Dingle's residence at that time.

That and the fact that the exhaust from the tail-pipe smells like ordinary gasoline exhaust fumes makes Dingle's entire claim to be more snake oil than anything else.

Being featured in magandang gabi bayan doesn't really add to the credibility of the "device". I think even the infamous KHAOS SUPER TURBO CHARGER was also featured by the same show at one time and even "endorsed" by the VP himself.

**basti08** · April 24th, 2008 04:59 PM

tama Daniel Dingel nga name nya... cant forget his name kase nga parang super interesting yung invention nya...

made a quick search...

http://www.wasserauto.de/html/inquirer_article.html

ngayun nagsisisi ata sila...

http://www.senate.gov.ph/press_relea..._pimentel1.asp

i think someone should just fund Mr.Dingel's idea tapos magtayo na lang ng Water powered engines converting stations which is more sensible than LPGs IMO.

**ghosthunter** · April 24th, 2008 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by 1D4LV

In fact, maski nga LPG conversion kit eh hindi kaya ng ordinaryong empleyado lang.

not really... if people can afford to buy a set of alloy wheels for their ride, a LPG conversion is not beyond the purchasing power of ordinary people. The fact that auto-LPG conversion is one of the few mods that you can do to your car that pays for itself in a number of months.

**mazingerZ** · April 24th, 2008 05:05 PM

He was a sham (Dingel that is). . . Me thread na ata dito dati discussing his invention.

**ghosthunter** · April 24th, 2008 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by basti08

tama Daniel Dingel nga name nya... cant forget his name kase nga parang super interesting yung invention nya...

made a quick search...

http://www.wasserauto.de/html/inquirer_article.html

ngayun nagsisisi ata sila...

http://www.senate.gov.ph/press_relea..._pimentel1.asp

i think someone should just fund Mr.Dingel's idea tapos magtayo na lang ng Water powered engines converting stations which is more sensible than LPGs IMO.

Dingle's so-called invention doesn't hold water since the total amount of energy you get out of the system would be the same to start the process over. So where is the excess power to propel the car forward?

A simple energy equation would have proved Dingle's invention to be "wanting" in the laws of thermodynamics.

**basti08** · April 24th, 2008 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

Daniel Dingle's so-called invention is more of a scam than anything. He was challenged to drive his car from Manila to Baguio and back and only to put in water as fuel. The reason for the challenge is if Dingle has a hidden gasoline tank in his car, the long distance would empty it. Dinggel declined to take on the challenge citing "security" of his car from being stolen by groups with vested interests.

How hard would it to steal a car with "WATER POWERED" painted on all four sides? Not to mention it can be usually found parked in front of Dingle's residence at that time.

That and the fact that the exhaust from the tail-pipe smells like ordinary gasoline exhaust fumes makes Dingle's entire claim to be more snake oil than anything else.

Being featured in magandang gabi bayan doesn't really add to the credibility of the "device". I think even the infamous KHAOS SUPER TURBO CHARGER was also featured by the same show at one time and even "endorsed" by the VP himself.

ah ganun ba? pero sabi dun sa isang article talagang mix gas/water ata tlaga yung invention nya,,, after then, pag nagstart na ang engine using gasoline, it will run on water na.

sayang naman