Galant V6 24 valve vs Honda SIR

[take1bar]

I'm driving a 1997 Mitsubishi Galant V6 24 valve at SLEX when an orange Honda Civic SIR suddenly swerve me prompting me to brake hard. the civic is too arrogant driver. i push my gas pedal reving the power of my v6 engine, ayon wala naman pala ibuga CIVIC nya. yabang lng.

[Negus]

huh? what's the point of this thread?

[BlueJazz]

I agree.. walang point.. I think you just want to brag about your galant leaving the SIR..hinde kaya bumagal lang yung SIR just to give way to an older galant? Ika nga..respect your elders...

[niky]

1. The SiR is faster than the V6 Galant. The driver most likely gave way after cutting you, whether accidentally or recklessly. Some people are strangely reckless in their overtaking but still won't go faster once the road permits it... which brings up the point: Bakit sila nag-cu-cut kung di nagmamadali?

2. I can't recall the number of times that I was "beaten" by a Revo or a Crosswind.

3. We don't exactly encourage street-racing stories here in tsikot. (even though some of us secretly love them)

[BoEinG_747]

sure kaya na SiR iyon ,

dami din kasi (LXi & VTi)ginagaya lang porma at kulay ng SiR

pero ang engine hindi na modify

[BlueBimmer]

onga naman ano point ng thread na to?

the galant V6 engine is not really that powerful you know...hindi lahat ng V6 e automatically super powerful na lol

[deedee]

although stock for stock...the galant is slower than an SIR..we dont know and the thread starter never specified what kind of mods he did with his galant.he never mentioned if hes car's stock or modified so if its modified..its not impossible to beat an SIR.we dont know for sure at this point.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Being cut off by another vehicle is common in most countries. So is keeping your cool and letting it go.

[reaganyun]

onga naman ano point ng thread na to?

the galant V6 engine is not really that powerful you know...hindi lahat ng V6 e automatically super powerful na lol

i dont think so!. stock SIR commands a 160 hp while stock galant v6 commands 195 hp.
maybe the SIR is quick at instance for it is light but in the long run, its engine rpm is running high considering its a 16 valve eng as compare to a 24 valve.

there is a big difference in long outrun between a 16 valve and 24 valve, a out run race is not a drag race, you have to push your engine to the limit until you outrun the others here will come the differecne between a 16 valve and 24 valve. one will definetely blow out its engine

maybe the better comparison is between galant v6 24 valve dohc mivec twin turbo and honda accord v6 dohc vtec.

[niky]

Local (Philippine market) Galant V6s are only 165 hp. It's the 3 liter car that's 195...

Local Civics are supposedly 160hp, but I've heard stories of the dyno telling different.

While, yes, a 195hp car could possibly blow away a 160hp car (despite the weight difference) in a high speed run, the Galant 3.0 is an AT.

Which means long, lazy gearing, and an inefficient drivetrain... and it weighs over 300kgs more than the Civic, which negates much of the power advantage. 0-60 times are in the 9's. The EK Civic SiR can do it well under 8... maybe 8 flat with a bad driver (I've tried the Lynx against one, and the Lynx is an 8.2 - 8.5 second car).

It would theoretically have a higher top speed, considering the Galant's low drag coefficient, but since most Japanese four-speeders are locked to a 180-190 km/h top end, we'll never know... :lol:

But then, this is all theoretical, as our local V6 Galant isn't quite that powerful.

[alwayz_yummy]

even with the 4g63(ung non-turbo local released), pagtatawanan lang din ng sir sa biglang bitaw....

pero kung sa long runs, nothing beats bigger displacement-->kaya pang longdrive ko ung maxima,e...

[vinj]

The SiR definitely has a straight line advantage even with the Galant having slightly more HP, displacement and two more cylinders; the Civic was simply tuned for that and has a lighter body. The Galant may probably be better on the track due to it's more useable powerband though. On top speed, the Galant has a slight edge...

[inchcockie]

this thread belongs in the TQPI roadkill section

[niky]

RE: track work... there's only one way to find out...

But the only gauge we have is ssaloon's 4G63T Galant... nobody has the 3.0 AT.

Pero don't underestimate the performance of the transmission. Even though the low torque and high powerband of the SiR may flummox some drivers, the Galant 3.0 V6 still has the 4-speed INVECS. Even on light Mitsubishi V6s, like the 200 hp 6A12, this makes first gear pick-up awfully slow, and will definitely hurt on a twisty track.

No stock midsizer will be a good match to a stock compact on the track with such similar power to weight ratios (from experience). It's only in the straights that they have an advantage... but unfortunately, there's no advantage for this particular car against the SiR.

The only Galant mark comprehensively better than the SiR in a straight line is the turbocharged VR4... and it's possibly better on track, too.