Toyota Innova: Gas or Diesel

[david_anthony]

contemplating which of the two is good for a daily drive, weekend carrier or simply all - around vehicle.

thank you.

[noobskie]

Go for diesel, you'll be saving up to P12 per liter plus the lower fuel consumption. It just needs proper maintenance, regular change oil and clean diesel fuel. If you're getting one now, you might want to wait as Toyota's releasing a facelift in the coming months.

[david_anthony]

Go for diesel, you'll be saving up to P12 per liter plus the lower fuel consumption. It just needs proper maintenance, regular change oil and clean diesel fuel. If you're getting one now, you might want to wait as Toyota's releasing a facelift in the coming months.

thanks sir. how long shall i wait for the new innova to come? will it have the 140+hp rating? on its powerplant? what could be the big difference between the gas vs diesel innova except for the fuel cost savings?

[bratski]

I used to have a gas innova, power is definitely wanting, not to mention the higher fuel consumption vs the diesel variant. You actually get 2 great advantages with the diesel, power and fuel savings. And if you plan on selling your innova someday, diesel definitely has a higher resale value.

[GTi]

The Innova's VVTi engine has only 136hp and 182Nm, and this is a heavy vehicle with a body on frame chassis which makes it heavier than most 4x4 compact SUVs out there with similarly sized engines. I haven't personally driven a VVTi Innova yet, but I have driven a 1st generation Escape XLT 4x4 A/T with similar power figures (130hp, 183Nm) and a pretty much similar curb weight at 1515kg (1585kg for the Innova G VVti A/T) and this is one very underpowered car. And surely fuel mileage isn't gonna be great either for the Innova VVTi, especially the A/T variant.

I'd suggest the D4D version. Even in its current state of tune, this engine is perfectly adequate for the Innova, making it economical and quick as well. There hasn't been any rumors about the new 144hp engine found in the new Hilux going to the Innova yet, but there's a big chance of this happening so it may be wise to wait for a few months before arriving at your decision.

[guigui]

i'm driving an innova e gas a/t and i can say that i can propel quite fairly without too much toll on the petrol. down-side ng petrol nga lang is the fluctuating price of petrol but it'd need just 4 liters of oil every 5,000 km whereas a diesel engine needs more than 4 liters of oil every 5,000 km... not to mention that diesel engine oil is more expensive per liter.

[Ginnova]

gas variant needs less than 6 liters ( ~5.5) while the d4d around 7 liters.

[david_anthony]

thanks for the input guys. well . . . i guess, it would be a good idea to wait for a month or two for the new innova to come. and see if the 144hp is on its powerplant.

[dr. d]

go diesel! hindi ka magsisisi!

[cripple_rooster]

Diesel is the way to go. Forget the gasoline-UNDERpowered Innova.

[drich_enriquez]

Diesel is the way to go. Forget the gasoline-UNDERpowered Innova.

Sa 2.0 is not considered as underpowerd. Siguro 1.6 or 1.8 Engine maiintindihan ko pa. Kaya mukhang underpowerd kasi mabigat ang kaha niya.

[cripple_rooster]

Sa 2.0 is not considered as underpowerd. Siguro 1.6 or 1.8 Engine maiintindihan ko pa. Kaya mukhang underpowerd kasi mabigat ang kaha niya.

Even the 2.0L is not so suitable as the D4-D, for this reason I say it's underpowered. Actually it's more matter of torque than power...

[david_anthony]

thanks a lot for the inputs. innova diesel seems to win the match here. will it matter if i wait to about a month or two? i am considering the IMV updates are coming up. new innova, hilux and fortuner is coming. it might affect decisions now. toyota is giving 100K discount on fortuners.

[keithdb]

With the impending increase of diesel due to excise tax, from a financial point of view, is the diesel still worth it versus the gas given its 100k difference? I was thinking of getting the diesel but with news of 10peso increase per litter in diesel due to excise tax, i am having second thoughts of getting the gas variant instead. I average 9k km/year and plan to keep at least 10 years.

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[jut703]

With the impending increase of diesel due to excise tax, from a financial point of view, is the diesel still worth it versus the gas given its 100k difference? I was thinking of getting the diesel but with news of 10peso increase per litter in diesel due to excise tax, i am having second thoughts of getting the gas variant instead. I average 9k km/year and plan to keep at least 10 years.

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You're basing your long-term decision on something that isn't even confirmed.

From my experience in the petroleum industry, it's very unlikely that they can implement a 10-peso excise tax. Too much of our economy depends on diesel. All our goods are delivered by diesel trucks. All our roads are built by diesel cement mixers. Most modes of public transport are through diesel vehicles.

And even if you take the excise taxes to be true, intrinsically, the diesel Innova is still more frugal and is much more suited to carrying people than the gas-fed one.

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[vinj]

With the impending increase of diesel due to excise tax, from a financial point of view, is the diesel still worth it versus the gas given its 100k difference? I was thinking of getting the diesel but with news of 10peso increase per litter in diesel due to excise tax, i am having second thoughts of getting the gas variant instead. I average 9k km/year and plan to keep at least 10 years.

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Im resale though, the diesel may still make up for the price difference.

[dr. d]

With the impending increase of diesel due to excise tax, from a financial point of view, is the diesel still worth it versus the gas given its 100k difference? I was thinking of getting the diesel but with news of 10peso increase per litter in diesel due to excise tax, i am having second thoughts of getting the gas variant instead. I average 9k km/year and plan to keep at least 10 years.

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whatever the cost of the fuels, the diesel still makes more km/li, compared to the gas.

[RomeoAlpha]

Is a 2013 innova e AT, a good biy at 699k? Thanks.

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[CVT]

Is a 2013 innova e AT, a good biy at 699k? Thanks.

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Diesel or Gasoline bro?

[ice15]

IMO... kung sagot ng company fuel mo... Petrol
kung sagot mo... Diesel

Kung plan mo ibenta 5-10-15 years later... mas maganda resale value ng Diesel, and let's just say in 10 years pareho market value nila... Mas madali pa din ibenta Diesel.

As for the "mas malakas ang diesel na makina" - well it's bigger 2.0 vs 2.8

Innova spec sheet...

Engine Type
2.0 Liter Gas, 4-Cylinder, In line 16 Valve, Double Overhead Camshaft
1,998L
Maximum Output 136 / 5,600
Maximum Torque 183 / 4,000

2.8 Liter Diesel, 4-Cylinder, In-Line 16 Valve, Double Overhead Camshaft (Variable Nozzle Turbo Charger w/ Intercooler)
2,755L
Maximum Output 171 / 3,400
Maximum Torque 360 / 1,200 - 3,400

I'm not a car expert, pero as expected, almost double torque nung diesel at lower RPM pero the petrol version will give you power until 4k!
Max HP din ng petrol version is at 5.6k...
So the way I see it... if you love high revs... the petrol version will be more fun for you...