2017 Honda CR-V 1.6 V or 2017 Mitsubishi Montero Sport GLS

[lightsaberx]

Guys, I need some insights on these cars. I'm currently in the process of selecting a bigger car in replacement of my current Honda City 2013.

I was initially inclined in getting the Montero but then the diesel CR-V was announced making me think twice on what to get now. I know these 2 cars are of different segment but they are almost priced at the same range.

As much as I loved the City, I have already outgrown it and saw its limitations. It is a great car taking myself to office and back home but found lacking when it comes to out of town trips taking 5+ person thus the search for a bigger car.

I'll be using the bigger car as a daily driver to/from the office with occasional/once a month out of town trips.

Here are the reasons why I considered both cars:

Montero GLS
+ Ground clearance (for flood, rocky roads)
+ Design
+ Engine power (not sure how CRV will compare with the 120PS/300 torque but much lighter gross weight)
+ New features (Push start ignition, dual climate control, navigation/gps, larger multimedia display, etc)

CR-V 1.6 V
+ Brand (positive experience with Honda)
+ Space (roomier than the Monty)
+ Security (ex. Hill start assist, Vehicle stability assist)
+ lots of holders (ex. Cups, bottles, other things)

With these, what would be the wiser choice?

Thanks!

[L1quid]

Vote ko CRV.

I have both types of cars from different manufacturers nga lang. A 2016 forty and a 2007 250x xtrail.
Honestly mas trip ko gamitin yung xtrail, sakto kasi yung size nya relative to the forty na cumbersome gamitin sa laki. And like most would say, driving comfort malaki pinagkaiba talaga ng CUV sa PPV.

I usually use the fort kapag umuuwi sa inlaws sa tagaytay, or other fairly longer trips kasi diesel, lakas sa gaso nung xtrail eh.

Kung madali lang ipagpalit yung makina nila eh ginawa ko na, magsinlaki naman, lol. Now with the CRV diesel, this has materialized.

Edit: some might say meron naman dati pa yung tucson or sportage na diesels ah, preference ko kasi are japanese manufacturers.

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[EQAddict]

Id go for the CR-V as well. My preference is that crossovers make better daily drivers than PPVs. And the interior space of the CRV is better than that of the montero.



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[Egan101]

CUVs drive better than PPVs so I'd go with the CRV.

Maybe it's worth considering the VW Golf Caddy. The Golf Caddy TDI 4Motion (AWD) offers good value at its 1.55M retail price. The 2.0L TDI turbo diesel engine is shared with the Jetta/Golf but tuned to 140hp/320Nm which is quite decent for its size. The sliding doors is a welcome of sorts for easy loading of passengers. Since the platform is similar to the Golf (VW MQB), you are assured of its decent handling.

Trimlevel < Caddy < Models < Volkswagen Philippines

[Wh1stl3r]

CR-V for me. The only time I'd get a Montero is if I lived in a remote area with really bad roads and flooding.

[Shutterbug]

I would choose the CRV.... but still best to test drive both cars.... get a feel of the seats for both driver and passengers plus cargo and also how they drive.

Every car buyer has different priorities or primary criteria on what car they're looking for so what's best for other people might not be the one suited for your needs.

[lightsaberx]

Salamat sa repsonse mga sirs. Halos lahat CRV, will wait for more inputs.

Got this feeling that this will be a tough decision to make. My head is telling me to get the CRV but my heart beats the Monty. haha.

I'm really planning this purchase carefully as I intend to keep the car for 10yrs minimum.

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[jut703]

Salamat sa repsonse mga sirs. Halos lahat CRV, will wait for more inputs.

Got this feeling that this will be a tough decision to make. My head is telling me to get the CRV but my heart beats the Monty. haha.

I'm really planning this purchase carefully as I intend to keep the car for 10yrs minimum.

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Always go with what your heart decides.

The fact that you still think this is a tough decision even if everyone has voted unanimously for the CRV means you really like the Montero for whatever reason.

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[Egan101]

*lightsaberx - go with what sings to you best. No amount of suggestion will matter if you have set your sight on something. You really don't want to suffer buyer's remorse later when you follow the suggestion of others.

[kimbon]

Salamat sa repsonse mga sirs. Halos lahat CRV, will wait for more inputs.

Got this feeling that this will be a tough decision to make. My head is telling me to get the CRV but my heart beats the Monty. haha.

I'm really planning this purchase carefully as I intend to keep the car for 10yrs minimum.

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heart is a filter to a decision... head makes the final decision..

[dreamur]

heart is a filter to a decision... head makes the final decision..

Lalabas ka lang para magbigay ng salawikain.

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[Vann-O]

You say daily driver? You better get CR-V sir. Getting in & out of the Monty is like pain in the ass you're always obliged to use the stepboard sobrang taas kasi ng ground clearance. Besides, you're an original Honda lover, you will feel at home with CR-V almost instantly.

[minicarph]

Salamat sa repsonse mga sirs. Halos lahat CRV, will wait for more inputs.

Got this feeling that this will be a tough decision to make. My head is telling me to get the CRV but my heart beats the Monty. haha.

I'm really planning this purchase carefully as I intend to keep the car for 10yrs minimum.

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and to add pareho sila mukang AuV wagon than SUV so mas mahirap mag-decide

[Shutterbug]

When you say your heart still beats Montero... What specific criteria/aspect do you love about it. It will somehow help clear your decision better if you weigh in your criteria vs your actual needs. 😉

Salamat sa repsonse mga sirs. Halos lahat CRV, will wait for more inputs.

Got this feeling that this will be a tough decision to make. My head is telling me to get the CRV but my heart beats the Monty. haha.

I'm really planning this purchase carefully as I intend to keep the car for 10yrs minimum.

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[lightsaberx]

When you say your heart still beats Montero... What specific criteria/aspect do you love about it. It will somehow help clear your decision better if you weigh in your criteria vs your actual needs. 😉

Okay, I can call myself confused at this point until after I have test driven the CRV. It's really hard to compare If you only have tested 1 out of the 2.

Based on my initial post, I have provided several factors why I am considering both cars. I will break down those considerations in able to provide further information as to "why".

I live outside the metro and is working in Ortigas. The road conditions are not 100% good all thoughout the year, the road breaks mostly during rainy season since large trucks traverses it after truck ban loaded with soil/rocks, precasted concrete, cement and others. Had several previous instances that soil and rocks from these trucks are spilled over the road and it skid under the car due to low clearance. But hey, the City conquered it, good thing no major under damage. There are also minimal floodings along the way when it rains real hard, therefore, 1 major criteria would be high ground clearance. But, I need to consider also the senior people riding it during out of town trips.

In paper, the CRV has 198mm vs 218mm for the Monty. Is 20mm that huge of a difference? In person, it looks like the Monty is much higher than 20mm. A comment here says that entering the monty is hard, with the 20mm diff which is not very significant, can we also say that it will be hard to enter the CRV? This I have yet to try.

Another major consideration is the engine power. The farthest I have driven the City is up to Baguio with 4 persons and several luggages. The 1.5L did okay but you can already feel the stress on the engine going up. I would want the car to be able to go further. I plan and dream to drive around with it as far as Ilocos, up Sagada, down Naga and Legazpi and maybe even roro to Mindoro, Samar and Leyte with maybe 5+ passengers.

120hp/300 torque of the CRV vs 181hp/430 torque of the Monty. With engines, the higher the better?

The minor considerations, there's the added feature of the Montero (Push button start, dual climate control, leather steering, better multimedia 6.75" 6speaker, 18" wheel) vs the security features of the CRV (hill start assist, stability control, leather seats, LED drl, tail lamp).


Then there's the price. Montero costing lower of about 139K vs the CRV after discounts.

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[nelany]

Okay, I can call myself confused at this point until after I have test driven the CRV. It's really hard to compare If you only have tested 1 out of the 2.

Based on my initial post, I have provided several factors why I am considering both cars. I will break down those considerations in able to provide further information as to "why".

I live outside the metro and is working in Ortigas. The road conditions are not 100% good all thoughout the year, the road breaks mostly during rainy season since large trucks traverses it after truck ban loaded with soil/rocks, precasted concrete, cement and others. Had several previous instances that soil and rocks from these trucks are spilled over the road and it skid under the car due to low clearance. But hey, the City conquered it, good thing no major under damage. There are also minimal floodings along the way when it rains real hard, therefore, 1 major criteria would be high ground clearance. But, I need to consider also the senior people riding it during out of town trips.

In paper, the CRV has 198mm vs 218mm for the Monty. Is 20mm that huge of a difference? In person, it looks like the Monty is much higher than 20mm. A comment here says that entering the monty is hard, with the 20mm diff which is not very significant, can we also say that it will be hard to enter the CRV? This I have yet to try.

Another major consideration is the engine power. The farthest I have driven the City is up to Baguio with 4 persons and several luggages. The 1.5L did okay but you can already feel the stress on the engine going up. I would want the car to be able to go further. I plan and dream to drive around with it as far as Ilocos, up Sagada, down Naga and Legazpi and maybe even roro to Mindoro, Samar and Leyte with maybe 5+ passengers.

120hp/300 torque of the CRV vs 181hp/430 torque of the Monty. With engines, the higher the better?

The minor considerations, there's the added feature of the Montero (Push button start, dual climate control, leather steering, better multimedia 6.75" 6speaker, 18" wheel) vs the security features of the CRV (hill start assist, stability control, leather seats, LED drl, tail lamp).


Then there's the price. Montero costing lower of about 139K vs the CRV after discounts.

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You are leaning to Montero Sports, just buy it and it will make you happy. . Those people who wants the CRV let them buy it.

[yapoy86]

Okay, I can call myself confused at this point until after I have test driven the CRV. It's really hard to compare If you only have tested 1 out of the 2.

Based on my initial post, I have provided several factors why I am considering both cars. I will break down those considerations in able to provide further information as to "why".

I live outside the metro and is working in Ortigas. The road conditions are not 100% good all thoughout the year, the road breaks mostly during rainy season since large trucks traverses it after truck ban loaded with soil/rocks, precasted concrete, cement and others. Had several previous instances that soil and rocks from these trucks are spilled over the road and it skid under the car due to low clearance. But hey, the City conquered it, good thing no major under damage. There are also minimal floodings along the way when it rains real hard, therefore, 1 major criteria would be high ground clearance. But, I need to consider also the senior people riding it during out of town trips.

In paper, the CRV has 198mm vs 218mm for the Monty. Is 20mm that huge of a difference? In person, it looks like the Monty is much higher than 20mm. A comment here says that entering the monty is hard, with the 20mm diff which is not very significant, can we also say that it will be hard to enter the CRV? This I have yet to try.

Another major consideration is the engine power. The farthest I have driven the City is up to Baguio with 4 persons and several luggages. The 1.5L did okay but you can already feel the stress on the engine going up. I would want the car to be able to go further. I plan and dream to drive around with it as far as Ilocos, up Sagada, down Naga and Legazpi and maybe even roro to Mindoro, Samar and Leyte with maybe 5+ passengers.

120hp/300 torque of the CRV vs 181hp/430 torque of the Monty. With engines, the higher the better?

The minor considerations, there's the added feature of the Montero (Push button start, dual climate control, leather steering, better multimedia 6.75" 6speaker, 18" wheel) vs the security features of the CRV (hill start assist, stability control, leather seats, LED drl, tail lamp).


Then there's the price. Montero costing lower of about 139K vs the CRV after discounts.

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Consider the drive train layout of the two.. montero is rear wheel drive compared to cr-v front wheel configuration.. that makes the cr-v roomier compared to the montero rugged heavy duty rear wheel drive

[minicarph]

actually hinde naman mahirap mag-decide coz even though PPV category ang Montero, it's the softrider among the 4 PPvS, in fsct sa sobrang lambot ng suspension nya, may mga nagpapagawa na sa casa ngaun na hindi na daw pantay ang car nila, check the Montero thread.

so given that the Montero is softrider and the CRV is definitely softrider. talo ka lang magpalinis sa Montero kase may stepboard pa, eh wala din naman pala advantsge sa tough roads in the long run

[Challenger75]

Okay, I can call myself confused at this point until after I have test driven the CRV. It's really hard to compare If you only have tested 1 out of the 2.

Based on my initial post, I have provided several factors why I am considering both cars. I will break down those considerations in able to provide further information as to "why".

I live outside the metro and is working in Ortigas. The road conditions are not 100% good all thoughout the year, the road breaks mostly during rainy season since large trucks traverses it after truck ban loaded with soil/rocks, precasted concrete, cement and others. Had several previous instances that soil and rocks from these trucks are spilled over the road and it skid under the car due to low clearance. But hey, the City conquered it, good thing no major under damage. There are also minimal floodings along the way when it rains real hard, therefore, 1 major criteria would be high ground clearance. But, I need to consider also the senior people riding it during out of town trips.

In paper, the CRV has 198mm vs 218mm for the Monty. Is 20mm that huge of a difference? In person, it looks like the Monty is much higher than 20mm. A comment here says that entering the monty is hard, with the 20mm diff which is not very significant, can we also say that it will be hard to enter the CRV? This I have yet to try.

Another major consideration is the engine power. The farthest I have driven the City is up to Baguio with 4 persons and several luggages. The 1.5L did okay but you can already feel the stress on the engine going up. I would want the car to be able to go further. I plan and dream to drive around with it as far as Ilocos, up Sagada, down Naga and Legazpi and maybe even roro to Mindoro, Samar and Leyte with maybe 5+ passengers.

120hp/300 torque of the CRV vs 181hp/430 torque of the Monty. With engines, the higher the better?

The minor considerations, there's the added feature of the Montero (Push button start, dual climate control, leather steering, better multimedia 6.75" 6speaker, 18" wheel) vs the security features of the CRV (hill start assist, stability control, leather seats, LED drl, tail lamp).


Then there's the price. Montero costing lower of about 139K vs the CRV after discounts.

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Montero as with other PPVs and pickups are sitting on ladder frames. So while ground clearance might not be much higher than a CRV, the body and engine are.

Advantage is the higher water wading depth and approach, break-over, and departure angles (if you care about off-roading). Disadvantage is less interior space cos of the frame below the body, more noticeable body-roll due to the higher center of gravity. That's also why it feels like you're climbing inside a PPV vs stepping inside a crossover.

Go for the Montero since it looks like you're somewhat decided already. If you can spend extra for the Premium or haggle a bit, you'll have no regrets since it looks like the added safety kit with the CRV is your only concern.

[jut703]

Okay, I can call myself confused at this point until after I have test driven the CRV. It's really hard to compare If you only have tested 1 out of the 2.

Exactly. Wait to test drive the CRV first before making a decision. At the very least, visit the CRV in the showroom now so you can get a feel of the ride height, driving position, space, and features of the CRV.

In paper, the CRV has 198mm vs 218mm for the Monty. Is 20mm that huge of a difference? In person, it looks like the Monty is much higher than 20mm. A comment here says that entering the monty is hard, with the 20mm diff which is not very significant, can we also say that it will be hard to enter the CRV? This I have yet to try.

The ground clearance stated in the brochures is the minimum ground clearance for both cars. The Montero is higher if you look at front and rear bumper clearance. Ingress and egress is also higher for the Montero, with most people needing a stepboard. Getting in and out of a CRV is easier since the floor is lower.

The CRV has a lower floor because it has a car-based monocoque chassis. The Montero on the other hand has a truck-based ladder frame chassis. This is the biggest difference between the 2 cars, and it's what makes the CRV more comfortable and the Montero more rugged.

Another major consideration is the engine power. The farthest I have driven the City is up to Baguio with 4 persons and several luggages. The 1.5L did okay but you can already feel the stress on the engine going up. I would want the car to be able to go further. I plan and dream to drive around with it as far as Ilocos, up Sagada, down Naga and Legazpi and maybe even roro to Mindoro, Samar and Leyte with maybe 5+ passengers.

120hp/300 torque of the CRV vs 181hp/430 torque of the Monty. With engines, the higher the better?

That's because gasoline cars are really meant to be driven at high rpms to make maximum power and torque. Most gasoline engines make their maximum torque at around 4000 rpm. Diesel engines on the other hand usually have maximum torque at around 2000 rpm. It's unfair to say that a gas-fed car is underpowered when you're not even maximizing the engine's potential.

I've driven weaker cars like the Vios 1.3 with 5 passengers on board all over Luzon - Baguio, Bicol, Zambales, you name it. There was never a time that the car couldn't climb up a steep hill - all I had to do was rev harder and the car will always follow.

For most drivers, diesels are more ideal because most of the power is available at low rpms. And since most people don't drive at high rpms, it doesn't matter much that most diesels feel breathless after 3500 rpm.

Since you're comparing two diesel vehicles anyway, you surely won't have a problem with torque and hill climbing power with either choice. The Montero is much more powerful though, so even if it weighs 300 kg more than the CRV, it still accelerates faster.

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