Toyota Hilux or Isuzu Dmax or Nissan Frontier???

[wildthing]

nissan titan ang basis nito...mas malaki sa current frontier

[calcite]

We recently bought 8 new 4x4 Frontiers for fleet use. Cheaper (P1.090M) kasi than the comparable Hilux (P1.25M - but this is for the D4D model, phased-out na kasi ang 2.8liter varety nila).

Good things about the Frontier is that for a lot less money you get add-on features like automatic front hub locks, power windows, remote door locks, driver side ABS, wider tires, etc. This was non-existent in the more expensive base Hilux 4x4. The downside is cramped rear seats.

Although it has a bigger engine (3.2liters), the Frontier has a harder time going up steep, rugged mountain roads than our 1994 Hilux with the 2.8liter engine. On the highway, one of our drivers managed to nudge it up to 160kph.

Can't compare it though with the new Hilux. We did not buy that because sayang naman gamitin sa bundok.

[cardo]

check out the comparo of the hilux and dmax

http://www.motioncars.com/front/index.html

[wildthing]

OT: calcite, I heard that HIGH SPEED tranny ang configuration ng Frontier that's why it can do fast speeds sa highway (actually my 2.7E can do 1605kph on its stock 215R15 tires and the 2.7S I use to drive can do 170kph on its stock 195R14)...downside niya sa akyatan kasi the LOW SPEED gears is not really as low speed than a 1994 hilux.

A solution to climbing problem that is to modify the gearing ratio ng differential or ng tranny....I don't know kung dapat pati transfer case gears dapat i-modify.

[Psalm136:2]

dressed to D-Max!

[mzrz6]

i choose dmax

[ian_rex]

bias ako. d-max pa rin. amenity-wise, i will vouch for dmax. its got abs+ebd, dual airbags, traction control, rac & pinion steering. plus, quite efficient with fuel. can do 13km/l on a combined conditions.

[ozcity]

hilux ako...





pero maganda din naman ang dmax aka holden rodeo...

[wildthing]

sheet!!! wala kasing black na d-max pa dito (yata)....ang ganda!

I think the first negative comment on the d-max 4x4 was that its computer box is located underneath the driver side seat flooring...so sa water fording na malalim, it would stall or die out dahil prone mabasa sa tubig!

[wildthing]

Ang corny ng motion car comparo....puro aesthetics...akala ko i-tinest nila sa hard terrains sa clark....boring and not fair for hi-lux yung comparison nila...

In my opinion,
1) they should have forded it in waist deep waters,
2) they should have run it accross a newly harvested tubo plantation around pampanga/porac area after a rain para may thrill (dati walang binatbat ang fuego 4x4 sa hilux 4x4 of the same era),
3) they should have run it sa drag-strip (also in clark) and got the best times on a quarter mile,
4) they should have made a fuel consumption/milelage test on controlled conditions (same driver for both cars, same distance and same traffic conditions),
5) they should have loaded the pick-up's bed and check its effective loading capability,
6) they should have run it towards pinatubo tracks and see which one gets to run farther up to pinatubo
7) they should have made a slalom test run to see which one fares in handling,
8) they should have measured the braking distance after running on a certain speed

nampucha, they had the vehicles for a week and that was all they can say...sheeess! No offense to the writers of that article .... but IMHO they were not fair in testing the 2 rides and the article wasn't worth printing or reading (parang binayaran lang sila ng D-Max).

my 2 cents. peace out!

[cardo]

Ang corny ng motion car comparo....puro aesthetics...akala ko i-tinest nila sa hard terrains sa clark....boring and not fair for hi-lux yung comparison nila...

In my opinion,
1) they should have forded it in waist deep waters,
2) they should have run it accross a newly harvested tubo plantation around pampanga/porac area after a rain para may thrill (dati walang binatbat ang fuego 4x4 sa hilux 4x4 of the same era),
3) they should have run it sa drag-strip (also in clark) and got the best times on a quarter mile,
4) they should have made a fuel consumption/milelage test on controlled conditions (same driver for both cars, same distance and same traffic conditions),
5) they should have loaded the pick-up's bed and check its effective loading capability,
6) they should have run it towards pinatubo tracks and see which one gets to run farther up to pinatubo
7) they should have made a slalom test run to see which one fares in handling,
8) they should have measured the braking distance after running on a certain speed

nampucha, they had the vehicles for a week and that was all they can say...sheeess! No offense to the writers of that article .... but IMHO they were not fair in testing the 2 rides and the article wasn't worth printing or reading (parang binayaran lang sila ng D-Max).

my 2 cents. peace out!

hehehe... of course, the insurance company won't allow these kind of testing. most of all, if you get a chance to get test units from the dealers hanggang hi-way testing lang yan. even if you got some owners to lend you their units, would they allow their 1.4M car to be driven on muddy terrains? loaded with all sorts of stuff? rev'd to the limit just to see which one crosses the line first? good luck!

[creepy]

Ang corny ng motion car comparo....puro aesthetics...akala ko i-tinest nila sa hard terrains sa clark....boring and not fair for hi-lux yung comparison nila...

In my opinion,
1) they should have forded it in waist deep waters,
2) they should have run it accross a newly harvested tubo plantation around pampanga/porac area after a rain para may thrill (dati walang binatbat ang fuego 4x4 sa hilux 4x4 of the same era),
3) they should have run it sa drag-strip (also in clark) and got the best times on a quarter mile,
4) they should have made a fuel consumption/milelage test on controlled conditions (same driver for both cars, same distance and same traffic conditions),
5) they should have loaded the pick-up's bed and check its effective loading capability,
6) they should have run it towards pinatubo tracks and see which one gets to run farther up to pinatubo
7) they should have made a slalom test run to see which one fares in handling,
8) they should have measured the braking distance after running on a certain speed

nampucha, they had the vehicles for a week and that was all they can say...sheeess! No offense to the writers of that article .... but IMHO they were not fair in testing the 2 rides and the article wasn't worth printing or reading (parang binayaran lang sila ng D-Max).

my 2 cents. peace out!

I thought the motioncars article was pretty fair and decent... maybe you just disagree with the conclusions...

[wildthing]

I thought the motioncars article was pretty fair and decent... maybe you just disagree with the conclusions...

Sorry sir, but you are dead wrong to conclude that I disagree with their conclusions....what I meant with my previous post was "I don't agree with their METHODS of test..."

You can ask anybody who buys and uses a pick-up...yung nabangit ko na mga "test" would be more appropriate to do if you really want to evaluate the capability of a pick-up.

(I know because almost 80% of my driving life, I have been driving pick-ups...currently I drive a frontier, I also often drive the dmax of an officemate...but I haven't driven a hilux... but have lots of friends who drive/own one and would swear that hilux is un-replaceable)

just my 2 cents. peace!

[Djerms]

May Black D-Max na. DMAX 2005. Kasabay nito ang locally assembled na D-Max LX - No safety features yata ito.

[ultraman]

crd ba yung engine nang Dmax? if yes why 130hp lang sa 3.0L engine.

[ian_rex]

sir, ultraman. i sad to say hindi.EFI lang siya. apparently, Isuzu is cutting cost, kaya wala pang CRDi. i'd say, if you'll consider a DMax, get the LS variant (4x2 / 4x4) its great and gives a lot of value for money

[cutedoc]

test the merchandize first and check if it will adapt to your usage,if you think the one will be more beneficial than the other e di mas ok, dont rely on given specs alone, dont rely on what the agent boast of their product siyempre they will give all praises, you yourself should decide which vehicle is more opt for your needs

[ultraman]

LS variant? is there another Dmax varaint? regarding altera crdi na yun diba? 3.0L and what its hp rating?

[Psalm136:2]

LS variant? is there another Dmax varaint? regarding altera crdi na yun diba? 3.0L and what its hp rating?

Opo CRDi na sya, with the new I-TEQ 4JJ1 Direct Injection Turbo Charged with Intercooler and 146hp.

Kung tutuusin dehado pa nga D-max considering na EFI lang sya compared to Hi-lux CRDi engine.

[ultraman]

how many years na ba yung Dmax are they planing to upgrade soon?