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    If you're choked up on maintenance and fuel costs for the Escape... for gosh sakes, don't buy a 2.7 liter gasoline Fort!

    Even if diesel is cheaper, you won't save much money with a 3.0 Fort or a diesel Patrol. These big engines are thirsty in traffic. You can get 5-7 km/l in traffic with the Fort... And worse with the Patrol.
    Last edited by niky; July 6th, 2012 at 11:41 PM.

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    The Gen3 CRDi Starex would've been a good choice if power and comfort were key. But since it's image, medyo daddy-ish ang dating. I miss our old one tho.

    I'd keep the Escape for now too. Until maybe the budget permits. The options aren't all that they seem.

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    Thanks sa mga reply sir, i guess ill be buying a innova na lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachyboy View Post
    Thanks sa mga reply sir, i guess ill be buying a innova na lang
    IMHO mas mukhang daddy-ish pa ang Innova sa GRX. Ayaw mo talaga nun? Later models have front and rear discs already, and a more muscular look courtesy of the new grille. And here you can truly and comfortably seat ten full sized people. Really gives the Innova a run for their money, I should say.

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    sir ayaw mo ba ng isuzu sportivo? better than innova yun for me ha...mas maporma at subok nasa tatag mas ok din sa maintenance...tipid din naman...pero sa choices mo fortuner na 2.5 d4d

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post

    Ball joints are a typical item. Spend extra for original (but still buy at MazFord instead of the casa) unless you want to keep buying every 50k kms. Even better, get the new balljoints injected at Cruven.

    OT: you can have a bnew ball joint injected by cruven?

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    I believe so. Injecting an old one won't do much but cost you money... you'll eventually have to replace the worn joint, anyway.

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    RE: Sportivo... secondhand, at a 400-500k price range, you will only get models with 150-200,000 kilometers on them. At this age, you will need to budget for radiator hose repair, fan clutch, actual clutch (if it hasn't been done), fuel pump calibration and new shocks / rear springs. Not all at once, though... probably safe to budget just 20k in emergency funding for repairs over the first year.

    Buy within the 700-800k price range... relatively new with no problems.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachyboy View Post
    Thanks sa mga reply sir, i guess ill be buying a innova na lang
    Nothing wrong with the Innova porma if you ask me, if you're just driving it around. Keep it clean, and maybe add a nice set of OEM Camry 17's or Toyota OEM 18's.

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    kaya di ko pinapakita sa school yung innova eh. mukang pang tatay hehe ;

    imho. i keep mo nalang yung ford mo. kung 2nd hand lang kukuhanin mo. kasi kabisado mo na yung sakit sakit maintenance ng ford escape mo

    di katulad ng bibilhin mo di mo kabisado. o kung ginulpi ng dating owner ito
    peru kung b.new GOĦ
    Last edited by jrn29; July 8th, 2012 at 11:00 PM.

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    Wrong analysis naman sya to justify to get a diesel SUV coz somehow it's cheaper to maintain than his Ford escape.

    Para makatipid sa SUV, get two and use alternately.

    look at me, my 1st gen CRV is just 5k a year maintenance (CASA) and my Sta Fe is 4.5k a year maintenance. for 3 consecutive years, ang ginastos ko Lang labas sa PMS eh battery. Coz parts of both My SUVs dont wear out coz I use it sparringly,

    what more if I have brand new SuVs, mas laki siguro savings ko.

    though, I can deny na talagang sobrang planado ko LNG talaga buhay ko, I have a condo and my work is just but 8km away everyday. I don't do rush hours and certainly don't pass regularly on side streets with jologs Puv and jeepneys.

    so my advice if you have an escape keep it, just like the CRv it's old so Dami na mekaniko, pyesa, common owners nagkalat dyan. And afford a 2Nd SUV. Yun benefits hindi ma- realize today but it will in the long run..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    Wrong analysis naman sya to justify to get a diesel SUV coz somehow it's cheaper to maintain than his Ford escape.

    Para makatipid sa SUV, get two and use alternately.

    look at me, my 1st gen CRV is just 5k a year maintenance (CASA) and my Sta Fe is 4.5k a year maintenance. for 3 consecutive years, ang ginastos ko Lang labas sa PMS eh battery. Coz parts of both My SUVs dont wear out coz I use it sparringly,

    what more if I have brand new SuVs, mas laki siguro savings ko.

    though, I can deny na talagang sobrang planado ko LNG talaga buhay ko, I have a condo and my work is just but 8km away everyday. I don't do rush hours and certainly don't pass regularly on side streets with jologs Puv and jeepneys.

    so my advice if you have an escape keep it, just like the CRv it's old so Dami na mekaniko, pyesa, common owners nagkalat dyan. And afford a 2Nd SUV. Yun benefits hindi ma- realize today but it will in the long run..
    i cant afford to get a 2nd car, that's why my plan is to sell my current ride and get a new one (2nd hand)
    because of the replies, im more confused, coz alot of guys are saying to keep the car instead of getting another one.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachyboy View Post
    i cant afford to get a 2nd car, that's why my plan is to sell my current ride and get a new one (2nd hand)
    because of the replies, im more confused, coz alot of guys are saying to keep the car instead of getting another one.....
    If you're selling your current old car to buy a secondhand car of roughly the same age (or much older, like the Fieldmaster), you're trading your problems (let me guess... you've already fixed some suspension parts and the brakes?) for someone else's problems, which will also cost you money to fix, on top of the extra money you will pay on the trade-in.

    Granted, given the stiff suspension of the Fort... it will be a while before any suspension work is needed... but it will eventually be needed, anyway.

    If the problem is money, simply trade-in for a lower class of vehicle, like an AUV or a subcompact car. Don't trade up to an SUV.

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    The Escape is a very solid car. There's really very few things to fix. As far as I can remember, our '03 Escape has had the power steering pump changed early on, the alternator replaced recently, and if I hear correctly, the ball joints are due for replacement soon. But other than that, everything else is great.

    Another option for you, especially if your car is still in good condition, is for you to just accessorize and modify your car. Make it look and feel new or different. For starters you can change the rims, sound system, and perhaps get an HID retrofit from sir garyq...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    The Escape is a very solid car. There's really very few things to fix. As far as I can remember, our '03 Escape has had the power steering pump changed early on, the alternator replaced recently, and if I hear correctly, the ball joints are due for replacement soon. But other than that, everything else is great.

    Another option for you, especially if your car is still in good condition, is for you to just accessorize and modify your car. Make it look and feel new or different. For starters you can change the rims, sound system, and perhaps get an HID retrofit from sir garyq...
    i changed the break pads already, and the balljoints are due for replacement....

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