Used 86/BRZ vs Used WRX MT/CVT vs Brand new Civic RS turbo

[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

Hi,

I'm planning to sell my 2016 Altis 1.6AT by next year, my reason is i want to upgrade my ride as a whole.
So my choices are the following
Second hand:
86/Brz MT
WRX MT/CVT

Brand new:
Civic RS

I'm also looking at second hand Mazda 6 and Accord.

My budget is around 1.4M in total after selling the Altis. Performance and Fun to drive is my main priority, next is the capability to be a daily drive.

[Hombre829]

All of the options are good and quality cars..but then brand new againsts used cars...brand new na lang.

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[Egan101]

Some low mileage WRX could be had for less than 1.4M. The WRX will be priced over 2M with TRAIN in place by next month.

If looking for a midsize, you can consider the VW Passat 2.0T. Opt for the Accord 3.5L V6 as it will not be released anymore with the upcoming generation. These cars are comfortable yet sporty, quick, and fast.

[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

Some low mileage WRX could be had for less than 1.4M. The WRX will be priced over 2M with TRAIN in place by next month.

If looking for a midsize, you can consider the VW Passat 2.0T. Opt for the Accord 3.5L V6 as it will not be released anymore with the upcoming generation. These cars are comfortable yet sporty, quick, and fast.

Thanks for bringing up Passat 2.0T, i'll include that on my option. It's very classy btw but how about maintenance?

[jut703]

I would get a WRX if you want something both practical and fast, or a Miata if you want something oozing with timeless character.

Secondhand over brand new, any day.

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[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

I would get a WRX if you want something both practical and fast, or a Miata if you want something oozing with timeless character.

Secondhand over brand new, any day.

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I actually tested the used WRX on AutoCamp, it's a CVT. I can say it's really good, now i just want to know how much difference it has with the MT variant?

As for the Miata, i couldn't find a unit below 1.5M hehe

To add to my criteria, aftermarket upgrade should be adequate.

[Janemar]

Bnew tayo.

Just add hondata or ktuner and a custom tune, and you're on your way to kill all the cars mentioned.

All that, without sacrificing fuel consumption(still a 1.5L direct injected engine kaya tipid) if your not boosting hard.


If 2nd hand, go for wrx cvt(traffic will only get worse ...) I read the stock cvt of wrx can handle upto 400whp. Given the weight disadvantage, it is still decent fast!

[EQAddict]

WRX....AWD and a turbo 2 liter boxer engine. I like the RS but it cant hold a candle to the WRX. The 86/BRZ just isnt practical as a daily driver.

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[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

WRX....AWD and a turbo 2 liter boxer engine. I like the RS but it cant hold a candle to the WRX. The 86/BRZ just isnt practical as a daily driver.

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Yup, i'm actually leaning towards WRX as i was able to test drive a unit earlier. Feels premium as well. for 1.4M price tag, is it a catch ?

[EQAddict]

Bnew is around 1.8+++ if i am not mistaken. Sounds about right.

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[Nelson de Leon]

Subaru STI na if affordable sa pre-owned.

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[StockEngine]

1.5T bnew... 0-100 in...

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[Nelson de Leon]

Or for ultimate power, WRX STI.

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[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

Or for ultimate power, WRX STI.

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Too much strain sa budget . Saka for the same price range i might look into IS250 na

[Archerfish]

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I'm also looking at second hand Mazda 6 and Accord.

My budget is around 1.4M in total after selling the Altis. Performance and Fun to drive is my main priority, next is the capability to be a daily drive.

First time owner of Mazda, particularly the Mazda 6 SKYACTIV-D 2018. This one drives like a gasoline and very comfortable. The engine is very quiet, just like a "noisy" gasoline engine.

How about performance and is it fun to drive? Well, just the other day I was "racing" with a Mustang (not sure if it's 5.0 or not). Of course I was left behind since I was just running below 3000 RPM. However, I always catch up and overtook it once. I know that in a clear road, that Mustang is the sure winner. Now just imagine the Mazda 6 2.5 L gasoline variant, I wonder how it will perform?

Note: I used the word "racing" but never do I mean being reckless. I always use signal lights and always leave ample time and distance to vehicles that I overtake.

Going back, 86/BRZ was and is my dream car. But as you grow old, I think getting in and out of that car will be a chore. Considering that you have seats available at the back, you might find it a hassle for you adjusting your seats from time to time whenever the back passenger goes in and out. In your case, I am assuming that you're still young so this won't be an issue for now. For me, I already have an aching back... so I don't think I can still take the "stiffness" of 86/BRZ.

[mda]

Now just imagine the Mazda 6 2.5 L gasoline variant, I wonder how it will perform?

With less than 200hp either way, I suppose pareho lang :D

[Archerfish]

With less than 200hp either way, I suppose pareho lang :D

I am referring to the gasoline variant as opposed to my diesel variant, it should perform with better acceleration. I made it clear that the Mustang is the sure winner.

[Janemar]

I am referring to the gasoline variant as opposed to my diesel variant, it should perform with better acceleration. I made it clear that the Mustang is the sure winner.

2017 86 MT - 0-100km/h: 7.79 sec, 1/4 mile: 15.69 seconds at 146.8km/h
2017 Toyota 86 GTS (manual) 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2017 RS CVT -0-100km/h: 7.54 sec, 1/4 mile: 15.65 seconds at 148.4km/h
2016 Honda Civic RS turbo 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2016 MX-5 6MT - 0-100km/h: 7.7 seconds
2016 Mazda MX-5 1.5L (manual) 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2013 IS250 - 0-100km/h: 7.6 seconds
2013 Lexus IS 250 engine sound and 0-100km/h - YouTube


2016 WRX CVT - 0-100km/h: 6.6 sec (Intelligent mode. 6.7 seconds in Sport Sharp) / (around mid 14sec. for 1/4 mile time)
2016 Subaru WRX 0-100km/h & engine sound (manual vs CVT auto) - YouTube


2016 Forester XT CVT - 0-100km/h: 8.27 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.18 sec at 143.7km/h
https://youtu.be/qsKwLl0mpZg


2017 Mazda 6 2.5L, 6A/T - 0-100km/h: 8.34 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.16 sec at 142.4km/h
https://youtu.be/CWOAvnpgDkQ


2017 Accord v6, 3.5L, 6AT - 0-100km/h: 5.7 sec, 1/4 mile: 14.2 sec * 98.6 mph
http://www.motortrend.com/news/honda...ear-contender/


2016 Passat 6DSG, 2.0TDi - 0-100km/h: 9.30 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.93 seconds at 137.7km/h
https://youtu.be/s_vrz0vgMQg

[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

2017 86 MT - 0-100km/h: 7.79 sec, 1/4 mile: 15.69 seconds at 146.8km/h
2017 Toyota 86 GTS (manual) 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2017 RS CVT -0-100km/h: 7.54 sec, 1/4 mile: 15.65 seconds at 148.4km/h
2016 Honda Civic RS turbo 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2016 MX-5 6MT - 0-100km/h: 7.7 seconds
2016 Mazda MX-5 1.5L (manual) 0-100km/h & engine sound - YouTube


2013 IS250 - 0-100km/h: 7.6 seconds
2013 Lexus IS 250 engine sound and 0-100km/h - YouTube


2016 WRX CVT - 0-100km/h: 6.6 sec (Intelligent mode. 6.7 seconds in Sport Sharp) / (around mid 14sec. for 1/4 mile time)
2016 Subaru WRX 0-100km/h & engine sound (manual vs CVT auto) - YouTube


2016 Forester XT CVT - 0-100km/h: 8.27 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.18 sec at 143.7km/h
https://youtu.be/qsKwLl0mpZg


2017 Mazda 6 2.5L, 6A/T - 0-100km/h: 8.34 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.16 sec at 142.4km/h
https://youtu.be/CWOAvnpgDkQ


2017 Accord v6, 3.5L, 6AT - 0-100km/h: 5.7 sec, 1/4 mile: 14.2 sec * 98.6 mph
http://www.motortrend.com/news/honda...ear-contender/


2016 Passat 6DSG, 2.0TDi - 0-100km/h: 9.30 sec, 1/4 mile: 16.93 seconds at 137.7km/h
https://youtu.be/s_vrz0vgMQg

Never thought Civic RS is capable to hold it's own in terms of 0-100 times

[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

First time owner of Mazda, particularly the Mazda 6 SKYACTIV-D 2018. This one drives like a gasoline and very comfortable. The engine is very quiet, just like a "noisy" gasoline engine.

How about performance and is it fun to drive? Well, just the other day I was "racing" with a Mustang (not sure if it's 5.0 or not). Of course I was left behind since I was just running below 3000 RPM. However, I always catch up and overtook it once. I know that in a clear road, that Mustang is the sure winner. Now just imagine the Mazda 6 2.5 L gasoline variant, I wonder how it will perform?

Note: I used the word "racing" but never do I mean being reckless. I always use signal lights and always leave ample time and distance to vehicles that I overtake.

Going back, 86/BRZ was and is my dream car. But as you grow old, I think getting in and out of that car will be a chore. Considering that you have seats available at the back, you might find it a hassle for you adjusting your seats from time to time whenever the back passenger goes in and out. In your case, I am assuming that you're still young so this won't be an issue for now. For me, I already have an aching back... so I don't think I can still take the "stiffness" of 86/BRZ.

I'm Still in my early 20s, i only have Altis as my car (It's my first car BTW). Like you sir, 86/BRZ is my dream car but can it really pass as a daily drive? It's really tempting considering some used 86/brz go as low as 1.1M - 2013/2014, not to mention the ample aftermarket support.