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    ano sa tingin niyo mas ok bilhin?

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    FJ cruiser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    apples to oranges comparison, one is a toy car and the other is a practical everyday car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foresterx View Post
    apples to oranges comparison, one is a toy car and the other is a practical everyday car.
    oo nga. depende sa pag-gamit.

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    but, based sa performance which is better? pwede naman gawing everyday car yung both para sakin, mas ok lang para sakin yung better performance and yung ok din sa flood haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by azizfrost View Post
    but, based sa performance which is better? pwede naman gawing everyday car yung both para sakin, mas ok lang para sakin yung better performance and yung ok din sa flood haha!
    Then FJ Cruiser it is.

    IMO kung ilulusong mo lang din sa baha, mas mabuti nang kumuha ka ng pick up. Hilux or Ranger.

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    The Santa Fe is a cruiser. Don't expect it to ford knee deep flood for you on a regular basis.

    FJ Cruiser nalang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    IMO kung ilulusong mo lang din sa baha, mas mabuti nang kumuha ka ng pick up. Hilux or Ranger.
    Yup.

    The Ranger and the Colorado/Trailblazer have 800mm wading depth capabilities.

    The FJ Cruiser's allowable wading depth is 700mm. That's nearly four inches lower.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    di kasi maganda engine ng mga pickup and hindi maganda sakyan sa likod, kaya alanganin din ako sa FJ cruiser kasi parang cramped space yung 2nd row...

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    and hindi ko naman lagi susulong sa baha LOL, in case lang na may baha may magagamit ako, which is mostly knee deep lang naman dito sa area namin at max...

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    Sobrang layo ng quality ng Toyota sa Hyundai. Either Fortuner, Montero or like what they said, pickups like Ranger, Strada, or Hi-lux but never a Hyundai. Ang pangit daw ng after sales service as per other threads here in tsikot forum

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    Pang araw araw naman pala, Santa Fe na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishing View Post
    Sobrang layo ng quality ng Toyota sa Hyundai. Either Fortuner, Montero or like what they said, pickups like Ranger, Strada, or Hi-lux but never a Hyundai. Ang pangit daw ng after sales service as per other threads here in tsikot forum
    still living in the 90's i see.:bwahaha: don't own a hyundai but i'd rather own a santa fe than your precious fortuner or montero. more comfy, better features, more power, better handling, basically a much much better car than fort or montero. the only advantage of fort and montero over the santa fe is the ride height and off road capability but everything else the santa fe wins. after sales service depende naman yan kung san casa ka papa service pero i've heard more horror stories from toyota and mitsubishi than hyundai.

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    As with foresterx said, it's a bad comparison. Purchasers of FJ Cruisers are those who love to off-road. Think elevation, dirt trails, rocks. On the otherhand, the Santa Fe's a city cruiser. Think RAV4, CRV, BGC (hehehe).

    It is hard to quantify performance. Performance in terms of what? Acceleration? Top Speed?

    If it's an everyday car, I'll snap up the Sta. Fe anytime. Any elevated SUV is "better" in floods compared to sedans anyway..and it's not like you wade floodwaters on an everyday basis. The benefits of this is that.. well, the eVGT engine of the Sta. Fe is simply a jewel. If you come from a gas engine, the most apparent response will be a great low-end engine response thanks to the torque figures at the low-band.

    Interior, the Sta. Fe is in its own league versus the FJ Cruiser. Build quality of FJs is much like that of the older-generation Sta. Fe with plastics all around (which the FJ needs since it's literally built to withstand harsh environments), the Sta. Fe on the otherhand has soft-touch plastics scattered around.

    Suspension-wise, you'll literally roll more with the FJ Cruiser. If your idea is to run 120km/h on the highways, the Sta. Fe will feel more stable and safe versus the FJ.

    Bottom-line: Do you live in the city? Sta. Fe. Do you actually do off-road? FJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    As with foresterx said, it's a bad comparison. Purchasers of FJ Cruisers are those who love to off-road. Think elevation, dirt trails, rocks. On the otherhand, the Santa Fe's a city cruiser. Think RAV4, CRV, BGC (hehehe).

    It is hard to quantify performance. Performance in terms of what? Acceleration? Top Speed?

    If it's an everyday car, I'll snap up the Sta. Fe anytime. Any elevated SUV is "better" in floods compared to sedans anyway..and it's not like you wade floodwaters on an everyday basis. The benefits of this is that.. well, the eVGT engine of the Sta. Fe is simply a jewel. If you come from a gas engine, the most apparent response will be a great low-end engine response thanks to the torque figures at the low-band.

    Interior, the Sta. Fe is in its own league versus the FJ Cruiser. Build quality of FJs is much like that of the older-generation Sta. Fe with plastics all around (which the FJ needs since it's literally built to withstand harsh environments), the Sta. Fe on the otherhand has soft-touch plastics scattered around.

    Suspension-wise, you'll literally roll more with the FJ Cruiser. If your idea is to run 120km/h on the highways, the Sta. Fe will feel more stable and safe versus the FJ.

    Bottom-line: Do you live in the city? Sta. Fe. Do you actually do off-road? FJ.
    actually i really like the santa fe, because of the engine and features.

    but with the price of 1.78M for the 4x4 4.0L V6 FJ cruiser this coming october, medyo nahilo ako doon....kapresyo na nya ang santa fe 4x2...

    nabasa ko din kasi sa reviews yung FJ cruiser maganda din sa city driving, but medyo alanganin ako sa 2nd row space nya kasi masikip daw

    still can't decide =(


    FJ cruiser
    pros: better for occasional flood, price is good, better cargo space, specs are almost same as land cruiser prado, built in japan so i think better quality, can wash interior without messing the wires.
    cons: masmatakaw sa gas, cramped 2nd row space, less features like back up camera and touch screen monitor. last model na, iphaphase out na. may mga blind spot daw sa pag drive kasi maliit mga windows.

    Santa Fe:
    pros: i think better driving sa city, masmatipid sa gas, masmadami features
    cons: masnakakatakot idrive sa flood, and some say pangit ang warranty services ng hyundai, 3rd row wala gaano kwenta kasi maliit lang din.

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    ^ parang ang labo naman na problem mo pa yung maliit na 3rd row ng santa fe. kasi wala namang 3rd row ang fj cruiser

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    napaka tagtag..at lakas sa gas ng fj cruiser...

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    hindi malakas sa gas ang santa fe, DIESEL e.

    i had driven my ex-mistress gen 2 santa fe in floods higher than 1/2 wheel height many times (our old subdivision, we don't live there anymore, and at espana in front of UST before they made the road higher), crossed a flooded street with onrushing water above the wheel once (del monte avenue lapit, duns a laging binabaha), and crossed a "dip" on the road with rushing water almost to the hood (m.h. del pilar in quezon city). i just cleaned the engine bay with a pressure washer afterwards (baho nung tubig baha kasi) and washed the aircon filter. nasira lang talaga siya nung ondoy, lampas sa transformer ng meralco yung tubig dun sa old house namin e. for regular flood fording you can always waterproof the electricals if you want to, extra gastos lang nga. silicon lang katapat nyan.
    Last edited by yebo; August 21st, 2013 at 10:52 AM.

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    Dmax pa din ako.

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    To the TS, I see that your confused because the FJ cruiser, an esteemed off-roader is priced at the 1.8M level. My suggestion, don't look at the price, see what you need more. If you need higher ground clearance without regard for space, FJ cruiser it is. For everyday use and can seat 5 adults plus 2 kids, get the Santa Fe.

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