PAJERO vs. FORTUNER, EVEREST,etc.

[ctianzkie]

ei guys im kinda new here... wer thinking of buying a new SUV... im having a hard time looking on the comparisons of each... originally we've been opting to buy Escape or CRV and, i wud love to have RAV4 2007 or Outlander but i think its way off the price of other SUV.. and my mom prefers a bigger one...

so our choices have been chopped down to Pajero FieldMaster, Fortuner3.0 and Ford Everest...our budget would be as much as Pajero FieldMaster 4x2... about 1.8M...

Everest doesnt ring a bell to me...

ive seen the Fortuner, and im really fascinated w/ wat it offers in terms of safety, interior and exterior design but some say the downside of the Fortuner is the performance... w/ its massive tires, it doesnt deliver the expected comfort in rough surfaces...

my mom loves to buy the Pajero, bcoz of its elegance and simply the respect it has earned all this years.. but i hav no idea bout the performance of the FieldMaster 2007...


just wanna hear your thoughts about the Field Master, Fortuner and Everest...

thankyou!

[drey]

The Pajero has an older engine, non-CRDi. Better in the long run because the parts of the CRDi are getting expensive. But the Pajero isn't at par with the Everest or the Fortuner in terms of Top Speed, Acceleration and Torque.

Its old and overpriced. :sad: But its a Pajero. Just like what your mom said, its proven and elegant.

You can also check out the Santa Fe. Its the best diesel vehicle today where you can have all you need but its a CUV. The Everest on the other hand is also a good performer. Good ride, good looks and good engine.

If you will be selling the car for 3 years or more, get the non-CRDi if you can't live with the price of the parts. But if you'll be selling the car in 3 years time, get the CRDi equipped cars.

But if you want CUV's. Get the Outlander if you want a gas (2.4L will be coming soon for 1.4M). The V6 is not bad its damn good. Get the Santa Fe if you want a diesel.

Almost forgot, welcome to tsikot.com

[lui]

sa iba talaga may dating pa din pajero... kung ok lang po na medyo mabagal sa inyo pwede na din nman pajero. wala pa sakit ng ulo. unit price po nya is 1.843M w/ 100k disc.

everest d ko din gus2 ung looks pero makinba nya malakas.

fortuner naman malakas makina. maganda labas loob pero medyo matagtag daw. nakasakay nako once pero d naman matagtag para saken....

[TFR]

Drey pretty much said everything, Its the summary of what you will read here. If you want more details just search the forum, just dont mind the immature thrashings, a lot has already been said about your choices, so read on, Happy hunting and welcome to tsikot.com!

[ctianzkie]

andami nga ngrereklamo na matigtig daw ang Fortuner so tlagang it terms of comfort sa ride, ayaw ng mom ko ng ganun.... sa pajero naman, wala akong naririnig na reklamo bout sa ride...

bout sa speed naman, mabagal nga daw ang pajero bcoz oldskul na nga ung makina nya pero di ko naman kase ggamitin pangarera un weh, city driving lang and minsan pagluwas from Batangas to Manila, as long naman as within 2 to 2 1/2 hrs ung byahe solve na kme don...


sa mga mey reklamo sa ride ng pajero, its very welcome po... mas makkatulong po kayo saken...

[lui]

mabagal po ang pajero pero pag naka bwelo na kaya naman mag 120-140kph... fortuner d naman ako natagtagan nung nakisakay ako... test drive nyo po muna sir ung mga unit na pinagpipilian ninyo...

[pajerokid]

I may be biased towards the pajero but i won't recommend spending 1.8M on a vehicle which was first launched abroad in 1992! that's outrageous!

Fortuner na lang... looks are important to me and the everest simply dont cut the cake.

Getting back to the Pajero, this is one very very very tough vehicle, easy to maintain and cheap are the parts.

[ctianzkie]

kase sir wer looking ren for quality within 5-6years... and by that time siguro i think standout pa ren ang re-sale value ng pajero...

wala ren ako chance to test drive ng mga units kase ung mga dealers d2 sa place namin weh walang available unit for testing... kaya po d2 na lang ako nahinge ng feedbacks...

[drey]

Sir Ctianzkie,

Stand-out pa rin ang Pajero if you'll be able to maintain it right.

Hmmm... 5-6 years... By that time, you'll be replacing parts. A CRDi engine has a long way to go to prove its injectors. Yung Trooper for example, the injectors only last for 50,000 kms. Kung nasira, it will cost you 150K. Hindi naman sa sinasabing di matibay ang Toyota, Ford, Hyundai or Mitsubishi CRDi's. They are good but the parts you'll be spending is unknown. Maybe twice or thrice.

But we also have to consider the cleanliness of our fuel.

I don't recommend the Pajero either. For the price tag of 1.7M. Get the Montero Sport nalang for 1.5M. You get the same engine + very very very tough vehicle, easy to maintain and cheap parts but minus the third row.

[boybi]

When kaya ang production date ng mga Pajero FMs on display sa mga dealers? 2003 pa kaya? Won't anything go wrong for a car stocked that long?

[lui]

When kaya ang production date ng mga Pajero FMs on display sa mga dealers? 2003 pa kaya? Won't anything go wrong for a car stocked that long?

ang alam ko po sir nag gagawa naman ng mga fieldmaster. sa cainta nalang ata sila ginagawa kung d ako nagkakamali. double check ko din bukas para sure kung overall fortuner vs fieldmaster sa fortuner nalang ako mas mura, 4wd, stronger engine. realiability lang talga ng crdi ang medyo suspect kasi d pa sila proven.

[drey]

If Mitsubishi is saving money. Why can't they just release the Gen 2 in Australia again. This time, it will be fitted with a Solid Front Axle and no fancy interiors to compete with LC70.

Dito naman sa atin, why cant they lower the price tag? Its outragious! They should've put a stick shift in it kahit Easy Select man lang tapos LSD and sell it for 1.2M.

[niky]

The Pajero is indeed overpriced, but amongst the three choices, it's the most comfortable and luxurious. The interior is a bit old-fashioned, but the materials used are better feeling than the plasticky interiors of the Fortuner and Everest.

The Pajero's seats are well-shaped, and the suspension is quite supple compared to the harsh and bouncy Fortuner or the stiff-legged Everest. It has a three-mode adjustable suspension (correct me if they've removed it already) which allows you to either firm up or loosen the dampers (I prefer them on the firm setting). Handling is nowhere near as good as the Fort or the Ev, but it's reasonably secure.

It's not as fast as either car, nor does it have CRDi, but the 4x2 Pajero is quick enough... the turbocharged engine has decent mid-range torque, and it's a breeze to drive on the highway. The Power ECT helps when driving up hills or aggressively, but otherwise, the normal mode is fine.

It's a great vehicle... but it's almost ten years out of date... and about 500k pesos too expensive.

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If you don't mind looking at "crossovers", you can check out the Santa Fe. Very comfortable vehicle, and the interior is much better than the pick-up based seven seaters (the Fort and Ev), and much more modern than the Pajero's. It's very handsome, too... looking a lot like Audi's new Q7, at a fraction of the price. It rides well and is easy to drive.

Other "SUVs" in your budget are the Outlander (really faaaaast. But probably not your mom's cup of tea), the Captiva (so-so drive, but it looks great and the engine and tranny are decent) and the Sorento (don't like the ride... third row is a joke... but the engine is brilliant.)

[BlueBimmer]

hindi kaya grabe ang depreciation ng Fieldmaster pajero once 2nd hand after 1 or 2 yrs? e pano yung gen3 nga luma na with the newer gen3.5 pajero...

kumbaga sobrang iwan na sa panahon

[Ventoy]

Syempre sa FORTUNER na ako sa papogihan sa FORTUNER na

[Starex_Gold]

Nasa Fortuner ang boto ko. may FM yung tito ko at hindi ako natutuwa sa engine performance nya (ang hina umarangkada). Ang gusto ko lang sa Everest ay yung makina (dahil malakas). Ang Fortuner naman kahit saan mo dalahin, may dating talaga. Mas mura pa ng 200k sa FM. Malakas din ang makina ng Fortuner at 4WD pa. Para saken hindi naman matagtag ang Fortuner kasi nakasakay na rin ako dun. Hindi mo masasabing di maganda ang Fortuner kasi ang dami paring bumibili. Kaya sa tatlo, talagang FORTUNER ang pinaka ok para saken.

[TFR]

I agree with the majority, the pajero is bit expensive for what it offers as standard, and its already a decade old design, but parts are abound because of this. Both fortuner and everest are pick-up based so both have interiors shared from their pick-up siblings, but has better engines than the pajero. I was in the same dilemma before. I f I were to choose from your choices I would pick the Fortuner, I dont like the everest's looks(no offense to everest owners, its just me, although I own a ranger pinatubo ed).

Why dont you look at the Santa fe, Its very spacious, the cabin is as big as the pajero if not bigger, and very comfortable! If you are after the brand then its not for you...

[drey]

Or you could stretch your bugdet a little bit more and get a BNEW Gen 4 Pajero or a 2nd hand Gen 3.

[rion]

I may be biased towards the pajero but i won't recommend spending 1.8M on a vehicle which was first launched abroad in 1992! that's outrageous!

Agreed. 1.8M is too much.

though I'm not happy with it's Power, still Pajero FM ang boto ko sa tatlo.

[Memphis Raines]

The Pajero has always been known for comfort and has more features than the Fort. Sensors here and there, digital compass, the works! The let down has always been the sticker price and cost of maintaining it that is why it has been reserved for the "super select few".

In my opinion, you get what you pay for in a Pajero.

The Fort is the current "fad" in the Toyota line-up and yes, it is notorious for its stiff ride since it's on a pick-up platform. Price is acceptable to most that's why you got Fort Clubs popping here and there. My wife and I are contemplating on a 2.7vvT-i but then after we test drove it for a third time (yes, it takes a lot of test driving to convince us ) the other week, we just can't get over the cheap feel of the interior plastics. It seems to be easily prone to scratches.

Sorta reminds me of the "lawanit" sidings found in the current Hi-Ace .