Super Grandia VS Grand Starex VGT

**IMm29** · February 18th, 2014 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by vinj

The old 3.0 Grandia had short gearing so on a steep and curb-ridden mountain road, it really climbed well and kept behind the old Starex TCi. On the highway, iwan na iwan yung old Grandia.

Ah yeah, heard that from one of the drivers I had spoken to in the past. Kills on the climb, gets killed on the flatlands.

Originally Posted by vinj

If that's the case then a program to improve throttle response will help? I was thinking about this for the Gen 10.5 Altis.

Or those TCM connected gizmos to modify pedal feel.

**crazy_boy** · February 18th, 2014 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by vinj

If that's the case then a program to improve throttle response will help? I was thinking about this for the Gen 10.5 Altis.

you need to buy throttle controller. cheapest i saw was around 5.5k. it was posted here in tsikot. shadow e-throttle yata name?

**IMm29** · February 18th, 2014 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_boy

you need to buy throttle controller. cheapest i saw was around 5.5k. it was posted here in tsikot. shadow e-throttle yata name?

Price is about right. I used it on our VVTi Innova. It did help in bumper to bumper traffic and city drives, considering my foot is used to the instantaneous low end turbo diesel torque. With the controller, the pedal became more sensitive to light inputs.

Not sure if the Altis's lag is as bad as the Innova's though.

**wowiesy** · February 19th, 2014 03:22 AM

in terms of maintainability ( inside and outside of casa), spare parts availabiliyy ( in and out of casa), and outside casa technical support... which one's better?

ive heard na problem sa starex ( hyundai in general) was parts availability ( not sure how true) so pag long term ownership, what to expect from these two?

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**IMm29** · February 19th, 2014 11:00 AM

With the large numbers of Hyundais -- Starexes in particular -- roaming our streets, there are non-casa alternatives for parts that are much more cost effective than casa. Pay a visit to the GS thread on the Hyundai board for more details. I don't think Hyundai is that far off in terms of parts. Sure there are a lot more Toyota dealers and parts suppliers per se, but perhaps the gap is not that wide when specifically narrowing down the choices to GS and SG.

**SiRbossR** · February 19th, 2014 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_boy

you need to buy throttle controller. cheapest i saw was around 5.5k. it was posted here in tsikot. shadow e-throttle yata name?

Ung sprint booster diba mas mura?

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**jaggerx3** · February 19th, 2014 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by wowiesy

in terms of maintainability ( inside and outside of casa), spare parts availabiliyy ( in and out of casa), and outside casa technical support... which one's better?

ive heard na problem sa starex ( hyundai in general) was parts availability ( not sure how true) so pag long term ownership, what to expect from these two?

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Sa casa lang naman ang laging walang parts.

Maraming nabibilhan ng genuine parts ng Hyundai, di gaano karami fake compared sa toyota

**glenn_duke** · February 19th, 2014 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by jaggerx3

Sa casa lang naman ang laging walang parts.

Maraming nabibilhan ng genuine parts ng Hyundai, di gaano karami fake compared sa toyota

May fake parts pa pala? Akala ko tawag sa fake parts ay replacement parts.

**IMm29** · February 19th, 2014 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by glenn_duke

May fake parts pa pala? Akala ko tawag sa fake parts ay replacement parts.

Not exactly. Di naman sila branded as Toyota. Besides, a lot of these replacements are made in Japan, vs OEM Thailand. ;)

**wowiesy** · February 19th, 2014 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by IMm29

With the large numbers of Hyundais -- Starexes in particular -- roaming our streets, there are non-casa alternatives for parts that are much more cost effective than casa. Pay a visit to the GS thread on the Hyundai board for more details. I don't think Hyundai is that far off in terms of parts. Sure there are a lot more Toyota dealers and parts suppliers per se, but perhaps the gap is not that wide when specifically narrowing down the choices to GS and SG.

GS thread on the Hyundai forums on this board? Or a different forum online ?