Sedans comparison.....

[LwR]

Anyone here can give me the Pros and Cons of any of these 2012 sedans...
Civic
Corolla Altis
Cruze
Elantra
Focus
Lancer Ex
Mazda3

first car ko kasi kaya d ko talaga alam ano bibilin ko,... and i really need the pros and cons to compare and decide kung ano talaga bagay sakin and wala pa kasi akong nakitang thread na nagcocompare ng mga sedans Thanks mga bro

[shadow]

go for the newest one...civic

[istan]

Why not test drive all of them, then u decide.
Tingnan mo kung ano gusto mo sa tindig, porma, comfort, usability...etc
From 1.6L to 2.0L, ang pinagpipilian mo, sa FC, pare pareho lng lahat sila, basta compare mo, same engine types.

Luma lng nga talaga yun Mazda 3, pero ikaw na maghusga.

[renzo_d10]

Focus TDCi, Corolla Altis, Lancer EX then Civic.

Kung habol mo elegant looks Civic talaga.

Forget the mazda 3 di ka matutuwa

[GTi]

New Mazda 3 has the same old lethargic engines carried over, along with a heavily jacked up price tag to rival the JDM Civic's. The old 3 was known for it's underpowered 1.6 and when the new one came 3 years late, they actually did nothing about it!

[Picard]

It's best to test drive them all. If you're planning to own and drive it for a LONG time, I say stick with the big 3 Japs (Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi).

[Gecko Guy]

If it's 2.0 --- Focus TDCI syempre
If 1.6 - 1.8 --- Civic or Altis (depende na lang sa taste mo kasi halos parehas na silang elegant look eh (pang me edad na dating...)

[lexwen]

Or if you want you can just buy my Sonata Premium, it's almost new

[jut703]

New Mazda 3 has the same old lethargic engines carried over, along with a heavily jacked up price tag to rival the JDM Civic's. The old 3 was known for it's underpowered 1.6 and when the new one came 3 years late, they actually did nothing about it!

The 2.0 engine of the Mazda 3 isn't lethargic - the 1.6 is, definitely, but the 2.0 Mazda3 is a totally different car. The chassis of the 3 is still as taut as ever, and with a 2.0 engine, it becomes an ideal pair.
Having driven the new Mazda 3 2.0, I can say that it's as dynamic as the sportiest of the compacts. The 5-speed transmission is better than the old 4-speed since it reacts much faster, and because of its better gear spacing, you're kept in the sweet spot of the powerband longer.
However, when looking at a car, you can't disregard price, and this is where the new Mazda 3 fails, regardless of engine. I'd say that the cars are 100-150k too expensive. I'd consider the 2.0R if it was priced at or below 1.2M, since I wouldn’t mind trading rear seat space (my biggest gripe with the Mz3) for a more involving driving experience and good looks (the smiley face appeals to me). The 1.6 though, even if it was priced at ~850k, still disappoints because of that engine.

Going back to the topic, if you’re looking at the 2.0 models, my preferences are as follows:

1. Ford Focus TDCi – a fast yet thrifty diesel engine, mated to a dual-clutch gearbox and a capable chassis, this car is both sensible and exciting. It’s getting old, and a new one is coming, but if you had to buy now, I think this is the best choice. Of course, the feature set and interior design might be aging, but personally, these are quirks that I think aren’t all that bad.

2. Mazda 3 2.0R – Expensive and cramped. Yet to me, I’ve always liked it. This isn’t probably a purely rational perspective, but the Mz3 does have its merits – great driving experience, lots of features, good looks in and out. I think that it’s a car that’s best driven to be appreciated, but the price is really prohibitive that this car becomes an acquired taste.

3. Toyota Corolla Altis 2.0V – as my daily driver, this is the car that I know most. And because I value driving experience highest, the Altis doesn’t come up on top of my list, because even though the engine is quick and the chassis is light, it still doesn’t handle very dynamically. In terms of features and looks though, this car’s really hard to fault. It’s very comfortable too. If spirited driving isn’t really your thing, this one takes the cake.

4. Mitsubishi Lancer EX GT-A – This car’s got a great engine, lots of space, and good handling. Features are great too, and though a lot say that the interior’s shoddy, I kinda like it. What keeps me from loving this car though is the fact that I know that it will always be under shadow of the Evo X. Not really a rational justification, but it’s just my personal preference anyway.
I find the Subaru Impreza 2.0 to be too dulled down, the Cruze 2.0 VDCi to be too expensive, slow and unexciting (despite the nice handling), and the Sentra 2.0 to be a tad too boring and bare.

For the mid-range compacts (those that are generally less than a million and have smaller engines):

1. Hyundai Elantra GLS – great styling, great engine, decent handling, gobs of interior space, and nice features, this car is a great all-rounder. It feels very upscale when you drive it, yet the price is actually competitive. Durability and after-sales service is questioned by many, but personally I’d take the supposed risk with this car.

2. Toyota Corolla 1.6V - as said above, very comfy, and rather feature-packed. The 4-speed auto really upsets me since it's slow and doesn't want to downshift no matter how much you prod the throttle, but it's still really fuel efficient. Power may not be as much as the others in its class which have 1.8-liter engines, but it's adequate for sedate driving, be it in the city or on the highway.

3. Chevrolet Cruze 1.8 LS - large, comfy, looks good. Transmission's a big let-down though.

4. Honda Civic 1.8 EXi - dulled down compared to the FD, expensive, definitely trying to stray away from its sportier predecessor. This might be good for those who want a more sedate and comfy Honda. Still prohibitively expensive though.

5. Mitsubishi Lancer EX MX - a 2-liter car for under 1M, and the specs aren't too shabby. Drive may not be as good as the GT-A model, but what really turns me off with this car is that it's nowhere near as attractive as the GT-A. Without the 18-inchers and kits, I feel that the EX really has an awkward stance that looks to chunky to me. Again, a personal bias.

At the end of the day though, you should try your best to get to drive these cars you're looking at. Specs might be impressive and reviews might be great, but it still all boils down to you - if it makes you happy, then go for it.

[silver V]

Nice comparison sir jut703,detailed and comprehensive.my vote also goes for the altis.1.6g nga lang po sa amin ahehe

[cjv_justice]

... and unbiased too if I may say so. Agree with the comment on the 1.6V Altis. Takes a little while to get used to in mastering the 4AT.

[silver V]

Sir cjv_justice anong fuel po gamit nyo on your altis?tried petron xcs then switched to petron unleaded,pansin ko medyo mas malakas consumption sa unleaded,tama po ba?thanks sir.sorry OT

[cjv_justice]

one time nung April nawala sa isip ko naikarga ko XCS instead of the usually Xtra Unleaded. pansin ko mas maganda response and power niya. pero bumalik muna ako sa Xtra unleaded. for me wala naman difference sa consumption. pero kapag Caltex na Silver karga, yun mas mabilis maubos ewan ko kung bakit. parang mas ok either Shell Fuelsave Unleaded or Petron's Xtra... pati Total ok din.

[jut703]

... and unbiased too if I may say so. Agree with the comment on the 1.6V Altis. Takes a little while to get used to in mastering the 4AT.

Bro how does your transmission behave? When you put your foot down, does it bother to downshift? Our 2.0V Altis (pre-facelift) uses the same transmission, except that it comes with paddle shifters. I find that I always have to use the paddle shifters if I need to downshift, say, during overtaking moves. Even in S mode, the transmission doesn't seem to want to downshift. It does, however, hold the gear up until the redline if I floor the pedal.

Heck, the 4-AT of the Vios is more responsive. I'm wondering if it's really how the Altis 4-AT is designed, or if it's because Toyota thought that since I have paddle shifters anyway, it'll make the transmission less excited to downshift on its own, or if it was just a bad break-in.

If it's the latter, I have half a mind to unplug my battery and let the ECU reset itself and maybe have the transmission be more reactive even without using the paddles.

[cjv_justice]

sir just a disclaimer, i have not mastered the tranny of this car a. hehe.

hell yeah its a a bit bothersome everytime i press the pedal down. this happens especially when climbing up a ramp, specifically the Skyway ramp in Pasay Road Arnaiz. It revs up as well on level road when I overtake but the RPMs don't shoot up as high compared to when I'm climbing up an incline. All I do is to depress the gas a little for it to gear up...