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    Hello all,
    Need you comment as to which is the best buy: Subaru Forester 2.0iL, Mazda CX5, or Toyota Fortuner. My original pick was the Fort due to it's tested reliability at pagkamacho nito. The Mazda is also on my list due to it's ***iness & fun to drive yung drawback ay dahil sa bago ang technology (Skyactiv engine & trannie) and don't want to end up regretting after 3 years or so. I happen to visit Subaru dealer here in Pampanga and nagustuhan ko rin ang bagong labas na Forester (unfortunately di kaya ng budget ko yung XT) so yung sana base model which is ok naman. I want to know though kung after ng warranty and I just want to have the Subie maintained by other than yung casa if kakayanin ba sa labas ie: Motech etc.?
    My needs pala: Reliability, Safety, Comfort, peace of mind, Good looks is a plus.
    Main use: Long drive lang other than that sa garage lang siya.
    Number of family: Just me & the wifey.

    Thanks in advance!!!!

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    Fort. for me idol.

    same item, not fan of new toy/technology.

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    Parang sobrang laki ng Fort kung dalawa lang kayo. And it's not comfy when lightly loaded. For your needs IMO you need a car-based SUV.

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    Forester for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Parang sobrang laki ng Fort kung dalawa lang kayo. And it's not comfy when lightly loaded. For your needs IMO you need a car-based SUV.
    +1 ako dito. Masyadong malaki ang Fort kung kayong 2 lang.

    Pero gusto ko yung CX-5. Meron yatang free PMS ang mazda for the first 3 years of ownership.

    Kung gusto mo diesel, Sportage crdi gets my vote.

    HTH

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    This might help a bit. Though they're using the 2.5 versions of the CX5 and Forester here the driving dynamics with the 2.0 models are similar. : 2013 Toyota RAV4 XLE AWD vs. 2014 Subaru Forester 2.5i Touring, 2014 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring AWD ? Comparison Test ?*Car and Driver

    Mazda has Yojin3: free PMS parts and labor for 3 years or 60000 kms.

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    Mazda CX-5 for me. yung 2.5L variant kung kaya ng budget, more toys kasi + the comfort of a compact SUV + Yojin3. drawback nga lang is yung reliability ng new tech niya, pero other than that, i think mazda is a pretty good choice. If a proven reliability is one of the factors, go for Fortuner na diesel variant.

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    Wow, really surprise how bilis ng mga replies. Thank you all mga kabayan. If ever yung Fort piliin ko, maybe I'll wait muna till dumating ung 2014 but hoping 5 speed na sana and no more problem(?) sa D4D na nagbabara daw (other forums) pag walang changes sa style or trannie , I don't know....sa CX5 parang may catch un free labor n maintenance 3 yrs or 60K nila, baka after that babawiin din kc tinanong ko SA after the 3yrs or 60K un maintenance would range to 8K+(???) . So that leaves me with the Subie or Fort although mas leaning ako dun sa Subie Forester yung question ko lang talaga sa Subie ay yung cost to maintain at kung kaya i maintain sa labas after the warranty period dahil nga kasi baka ni hindi umabot sa 60K tapos na ung warranty ko mostly sa weekender and long drive lang gagamitin. Yung Subie kc nag-research na ako everywhere konti at very minor lang ung mga concern what is not discuss ay yung cost to own. Again thank you in advance sa mga replies. Thumbs up Tsikoketers!!!

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    8k is normal for some models even on subcompacts with all the options they add on to the basic requirements. Heck they wanted to charge me that amount for my Vios' 10k PMS. After removing all the options (flushing, fuel injector cleaner, detailing, etc) total bill was less than half the original quote. Besides if you're out of warranty you can have your PMS performed outside of the casa already.

    BTW kinda OT but my officemate's Montero recently had its 40k PMS. Price? 21k Diesels generally change more oil more frequently compared to their gas counterparts
    Last edited by JohnM; June 11th, 2013 at 11:59 AM.

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    Forester or CX5, as they more car-like. Kung diesel gusto mo, the Sorento 4x2 5-seater is another choice.

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    John M.......This might help a bit. Though they're using the 2.5 versions of the CX5 and Forester here the driving dynamics with the 2.0 models are similar. : 2013 Toyota RAV4 XLE AWD vs. 2014 Subaru Forester 2.5i Touring, 2014 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring AWD ? Comparison Test ?*Car and Driver

    For John M....now you got me into thinking which is the best buy nga ba. Sa review panalo ang CX5, though worried nga ang wifey sa di pa tested new technology nito...hahaha. Tempted na talaga ako sa CX5.....

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    Risky yes pero siguro naman Mazda did their homework hehe. These are cars made to be sold all over the world so they better be good For peace of mind you can read comments from other forums and countries. Generally ok naman ang feedback.

    Disclosure: My dad bought a CX5 MT last month and he and mom are having a great time with it on the provincial highways they frequent (1k PMS after one week of ownership :hysterical. I got to drive it for a few hours and man it was fun. Their old backs didn't like the ride of my sister's Fortuner. Surprisingly my sister said that she feels the Mazda's back seat was roomier than the Fort's. My 1-year-old nephew seemed to agree too

    BTW the CX5 AWD will be available for test drives this weekend at High Street.
    Last edited by JohnM; June 11th, 2013 at 12:57 PM.

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    best buy between the 3? the fort G variant. its big, more seats, bigger cargo capacity, diesel, ladder frame, same power output with the V variant may hood scoop na din. Its gonna be the most durable between the 3 choices. I'm a big subie fan being an owner of one pero sulit talaga ang fort. Cx-5 vs forester? cx-5 kung 2.0 liter variant pero kung top of the line model the forester wins.

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    A Toyota Salesman told me the new Fortuner is due in 2016
    Presumably it has to wait for the new Hilux Platform
    Considering we havent seen any spyshots of the new fortuner, it will still probably be a long time

    The Fortuner is the best value but it might be to big
    Id rather get the Subaru, it is bigger that the CX5

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    Thank you all again.....this is what turned me off with the CX5 2013 Mazda CX-5 Consumer Reviews so I guess it's between the two na lang....does anybody here have an idea when the 2014 Fort would arrive the earliest sa mga dealer? I'll test drive the Subie this week and see how yung cvt trannie performs I am more kasi into peace of mind and cost of maintenance. Di bale cguro matagtag un Fort ako naman magda-drive hahaha. With all the threads posted so far.....it seems medyo nakakaangat na ulit ang Fort. Hopefully mayroon pa mag post na mga Subie owners. Feeling like am this na......

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    If you're going Toyota try the Rav4

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    JohnM... at first glance na-like ko rin un RAV4 kaso di ko type un interior plasticky at cheap ang dating for its price. Though like ko yung 6 speed trannie niya. Mukha din innova side ways na medyo ni-lower lang un likod (opinion ko lang yun). Any negative issues sa Fort or Subie?

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    *Kevz321 - checkout the Subaru Cars talk threads. There's a lot of discussion there for the Forester. As per inputs from owners, the new Forester 2.0L NA CVT can do 9 km/L in city driving conditions. The Forester XT has lower FC (7 km/L) but that's good enough for a 2.0L turbo engine with 240hp.

    Subaru Cars Talk
    Last edited by Egan101; June 11th, 2013 at 03:50 PM.

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    Test drive the candidates na lang. If you can live with the Fort's ride then it's a good choice given your priorities. Problema lang kasi sa Toyota bihira ang test drive unit ng Fort dahil in demand daw

    You might want to check out the Montero and Trailblazer. Same class ng Fort. Wild card ang Sorento

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    *Egan101 - I did checked that out and probably read up to page 42 yata, mostly are Subie fan ata so no negative marks, what I'm also interested in knowing sana ay yung cost of ownership in comparison sa Fort wala kasi yun sa discussion.

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