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  1. Join Date
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    Hi Guys,

    Just want to ask your opinion on what is recommended for 4x4 family use ride. I'm not into the new models but rather the old ones due to its reviews.

    I'm considering the hilux surf vs. pajero fieldmaster

    any difference between the ff:
    - fuel consumption
    (surf M vs. fieldmaster M)
    (surf AT vs. fieldmaster AT)
    - suspension
    - ride experience
    - cost of maintenance
    - availability of parts
    - can be use for offroad beginner

    Thanks

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    FM nalang at least hindi converted unlike the Hilux Surf.

    Pwede rin Nissan Patrol Safari or LC70/LC80
    Last edited by renzo_d10; October 31st, 2012 at 01:41 PM.

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    #3
    LC80..

    Btw, TOYCAR mo ba, mas maganda siguro kung iba ang kotse mo pang offroad at pang pamilya.. Siyempre iba ang ride nun, ...

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    best choice pajero fieldmaster...ilang years kasali nasa Dakar race

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    FM Pajero na. Being officially available locally is a boon. It looks a lot more timeless than the aged looks of the Hilux Surf. And then again, if the Surf uses the 2L-T engine, it is known for overheating issues. Better get the M/T variant for better gas mileage and more simple and low cost maintenance in the long run.

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    Pajero Fieldmaster, nuff said ;)

    You get comfortability. You can seat up to 10 persons, while the Surf can only seat 5 persons. Actually, there is a local Hilux Surf, in the name of 4Runner. Pero rare ito. Tsaka nasabi na ni GTi, 2L-T engine which is common sa Surf are known to have overheating issues due to cracking of cylinder head. As for the 4M40 (engine of FM), well, wala akong masabi. Tried and tested na ito.

    BTW, only 97-99 models of Pajero FM are of 4x4 variants. 00 model and up are only 4x2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    FM nalang at least hindi converted unlike the Hilux Surf.

    Pwede rin Nissan Patrol Safari or LC70/LC80
    Nissan Patrol Safari

    One testament to its toughness .......... Ginagamit ng PSG!

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    Id go with the FM. The 4runner/hi lux surf is too bumpy on the road. It might be capable off road but i would not suggest it for family use. The FM, on the other hand, is very capable offroad as well as comfortable for family use.

    As to the engine, 4m40 is a tough engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rac98 View Post
    Id go with the FM. The 4runner/hi lux surf is too bumpy on the road. It might be capable off road but i would not suggest it for family use. The FM, on the other hand, is very capable offroad as well as comfortable for family use.

    As to the engine, 4m40 is a tough engine.
    Yup, just like the 3.2 4M41, the 4M40 runs in timing chain as well.

    The boxy good looking Fieldmaster is the BEST-LOOKING Pajero variant (referred to as Montero in Europe - pajero in Spanish or Latin European means wanker, thus the name change for the European market)

    In Subic, the older Fieldmaster is priced almost the same as the relatively newer-style Japanese Shogun sold as used thereat.




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    [QUOTE=d_mac;2034266][COLOR="#000000"]Yup, just like the 3.2 4M41, the 4M40 runs in timing chain as well.

    The boxy good looking Fieldmaster is the BEST-LOOKING Pajero variant (referred to as Montero in Europe - pajero in Spanish or Latin European means wanker, thus the name change for the European market)

    In Subic, the older Fieldmaster is priced almost the same as the relatively newer-style Japanese Shogun sold as used thereat.



    try the smaller version like th suzuki samurai....look at the one that is upgraded...easy to maneuver and economical
    have one look at this site (http://tsikot.com/forums/suzuki-cars...nt=Yahoo!+Mail)

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