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    Hi Guys,

    Greetings!

    Anyway I just dropped by to ask for your opinion and comment 'cause I'm about to buy an SUV and still undecided on which to get either Toyota Rav 4 or Hyundai Sta. Fe. I had a Chevrolet Optra before and I observed that it's not anymore advisable to have a sedan especially for everyday use sa mga sira-sirang kalye natin d2.

    Please help me decide considering the ff: Fuel Consumption; Over-all performance inc. safety and comfort; Re-sale value. Before Fortuner was included in my choices, but since i've read the thread between sta. fe and fortuner, i opt for sta. fe, but still considering the 2nd gen Rav 4. Prob. that I can see w/ rav 4 is its fuel consumption but I like its size kc smaller and advantage is its resale value and Japan technology. But I like more the design and mas tipid yung Sta. Fe since it's diesel.

    Hope you could help me decide by giving your comments for the above-mentioned vehicles.

    Many thanks. God Bless!!

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    Vehicles are not gender-specific so take your pick.

    For me it's a no-brainer. I'd take the Sta. Fe over the RAV4 any day of the week. A Toyota badge means nothing to me (I rarely look at brand when selecting a vehicle). The Toyota may be easier to trot around town but are you sure you prefer a pre-owned Toyota over a new Hyundai?

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    ma'm mag santa fe ka na lang. the sante fe is ***y enough to look *. tapos girl pa behind the wheel

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    Pa-clarify lang... you mentioned that the Rav4 you are considering is the 2nd gen (like the one in my avatar), which as sold until early last year. Although I am assuming that you are referring to the current Rav4 (3rd gen) since you are comparing it to the Santa Fe.

    Size-wise (length & width) the Santa Fe is not that much bigger than the current Rav4. The new Rav4 is a lot bigger compared to the older ones especially that we are getting here the LWD version.

    Safety & comfort would be a tie between the two.

    As to technology, I'd give it to the Santa Fe with its self-leveling suspension and hi-tech looking head unit & climate control system.

    For my money, I'd would buy a Santa Fe over a Rav4 anytime. The new Rav4 is just not worth the buy for the price that they are asking for it.

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    Hi sorry mistyped, I'm talking about the new Rav 4 and not the old one.

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    diesel fed? santa fe definitely. gas fed? rav 4 for me.

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    Yeah, Php1.8M for a RAV4. Yung may blind faith na lang ata sa Toyota ang kakagat sa ganung offer. hehehe. Or those with lots of moolah to burn, I guess. The RAV4 does have cruise control (not so useful) and seat heaters (practically useless).

    I'd rather have the Santa Fe's self levelling rear suspension, rear a/c, and fold-flat third row seat instead. Santa Fe also has side door mouldings to protect itself against other car doors while parked. And being aimed at the Euro market, there's probably already a dedicated space to stash a fire extinguisher, EWD, and a first aid kit.

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    I'd take the Santa Fe over the Rav4 any day.

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    Eto siguro mas magandang match:

    Sta. Fe vs Grand Vitara

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    I like the Santa Fe better, brand aside, you get much more for your money with this than with the RAV4... plus two extra seats.

    The real decider here is the fact that it's available in diesel. The 2.2 CRDi of the Santa Fe is sweeeeeeet. I've been driving various Hyundai diesels this past year, and I'm addicted to them. Even without considering possible fuel or quality defects, they're smoother and less laggy than the D4D units Toyota uses... this is comparing the 2.5 CRDi in the Sorento/Starex to the 2.5 D4D in my friend's Innova MT and the 3.0 D4D in the Fortuner we tested last year.

    Of course, if you're considering mega-CUVs, the new Honda CRV is coming out soon, and I'm hearing the interior is excellent compared to anything else on the market.

    The Sorento has a nice, soft ride. It's not to my taste (I like a little less body roll), but you might like it.

    The new Everest is finally out, and they're giving test-drives at SM Mall of Asia this weekend (you might want to check it out). It may be sort of old fashioned compared to the Santa Fe or RAV4, but it's got a crackling CRDi engine, ABS, EBD and dual front and side airbags... and it's got more space than either. The only question mark is the ride, but the new Ranger supposedly rides very nicely, so the new Everest might surprise you.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    IMO hindi bagay ang Everest sa babae mas bagay sa kanila ang mga compact SUV.

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    No brainer,- go for the Sta. Fe.

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    *Jun: the takeoff G-force of CRDi VGT is addictive . I believe what you are saying about the Sonata as it's a luxury sedan probably aimed at taking down Accord, Camry and Cefiro (that must be insanely expensive though ). But personally, i won't choose a 3.3L V6 over a 2.2L CRDi VGT for the simple reason that diesel is cheaper here and that it's more energy efficient compared to petrol.

    the Santa Fe's ECU can be chipped and from 150Hp/335Nm, it will become 180Hp/395Nm. I'm not sure how much "chipping" is though. hehe

    Q: is the Azera same as Sonata? I've seen quite a lot of Azeras here.

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    talagang maganda ang mga feedback sa sta fe huh... kailangan ko ng dispatsahin siguro ang aking innova para makabili ng sta fe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    *Jun: the takeoff G-force of CRDi VGT is addictive . I believe what you are saying about the Sonata as it's a luxury sedan probably aimed at taking down Accord, Camry and Cefiro (that must be insanely expensive though ). But personally, i won't choose a 3.3L V6 over a 2.2L CRDi VGT for the simple reason that diesel is cheaper here and that it's more energy efficient compared to petrol.

    the Santa Fe's ECU can be chipped and from 150Hp/335Nm, it will become 180Hp/395Nm. I'm not sure how much "chipping" is though. hehe

    Q: is the Azera same as Sonata? I've seen quite a lot of Azeras here.
    The Azera has a more powerful engine than the Sonata. 3.8L 263hp V6. It'll smoke my Sonata and is close to new 3.5L V6 Camry in acceleration. I don't know why people think the Azera is bigger than the Sonata. I've seen the two cars side by side and the Azera seems a bit smaller (less trunk space). Otherwise, they seem to be almost the same size.

    I've been wondering what the gas mileage is for the diesel SF since we don't have them here. It'd be nice, though. But, the 3.3L V6 SF gas mileage is in the region of 8km/L city and 10.2km/L highway.

    We've been watching that guy's trial closely because I made a $100 bet with a friend that the Sonata can't reach 147mph. Looks like I lost the bet. Maybe he won't remember. Anyway, there's been rumors (in Korea) of the Azera being able to reach 160 mph. I won't make a bet against that one.

    Sonatas are relatively low cost here. We got ours for less than $20k with our old 1997 van trade in and 10 year bumper to bumper warrantee (not the regular warrantee) plus free oil changes for 4 years.

    Add: You do realize that chipping the diesel SF will lower the gas mileage, right? Plus, the base gas engine, the 2.7L V7 still makes more hp (189). That reminds me. The SF 3.3 makes 242hp versus 235hp of my Sonata. I'll bet I can have my Sonata chipped to the same 242hp.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; January 12th, 2007 at 09:58 AM.

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    Hi

    I just like to share with you that my lady cousin is around 5'3" and when she sat in both cars, she like the driving position of the Sta Fe than the Rav4.
    Overall, she chooses the Sta Fe over the Rav4. HTH

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    According to the website, ironically, it'll save more gas probably because the engine will run at its optimal power.

    As for the fuel consumption of diesel SF, 50mpg is the best so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    According to the website, ironically, it'll save more gas probably because the engine will run at its optimal power.

    As for the fuel consumption of diesel SF, 50mpg is the best so far.
    Ooooooh. OK. That article. I thought it was a publicity stunt with lots of trickery. It is a standard diesel SF after all. My bad. Hyundai needs to bring that sucker here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nice_444 View Post
    Hi Guys,

    Greetings!

    Anyway I just dropped by to ask for your opinion and comment 'cause I'm about to buy an SUV and still undecided on which to get either Toyota Rav 4 or Hyundai Sta. Fe. I had a Chevrolet Optra before and I observed that it's not anymore advisable to have a sedan especially for everyday use sa mga sira-sirang kalye natin d2.

    Please help me decide considering the ff: Fuel Consumption; Over-all performance inc. safety and comfort; Re-sale value. Before Fortuner was included in my choices, but since i've read the thread between sta. fe and fortuner, i opt for sta. fe, but still considering the 2nd gen Rav 4. Prob. that I can see w/ rav 4 is its fuel consumption but I like its size kc smaller and advantage is its resale value and Japan technology. But I like more the design and mas tipid yung Sta. Fe since it's diesel.

    Hope you could help me decide by giving your comments for the above-mentioned vehicles.

    Many thanks. God Bless!!

    HI ms nice_444,

    Fuel Consumption: Santa Fe
    Overall Performance : not sure
    Resale Value : Rav4

    Rav4 is a good car but mas value for money talaga Santa Fe.

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    Hi there!
    Ey thanks a lot & I appreciate all your feedbacks. But unfortunately, m not gonna buy anymore a brand new SUV sa ngayon. It's because I tried using our Landrover Freelander (M/T, Diesel) and it's really satisfying. I wasn't using it before 'cause it;s M/T transmission, and I was not that good in conventional 'cause my car before was A/T.. E since I don't have no choice and no other car to use, I tried this one, since wala masyadong gumagamit and yeah, nasanay na mag manual and it's very comfy. I even prefer using this one kahit na manual rather than my bro's A/T sedan. Maybe later there'll be better SUV that will come out. Ok as my choice tlaga sana ang sta. fe kaso mdyo nalalakihan kc ko. Anyway, again thanks a lot for your replies. Naudlot daw ba pagbili.. waaahhh!!! God Bless!

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