Please advise on choosing my first ever car (City 1.5 VX Navi CVT vs Altis 1.6 G MT)

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what you are not telling him is how beneficial it can be for him and for his family na matuto sya sa manual. sure mahihirapan ka sa una, sure pagod pagod ka pero sooner or later magagamay mo din yan =)

take it from me pinili ko matic, nag-aral ako manual, pero real driving matic lang. hindi ako mapakinabangan ng family ko pag coding auto ko kasi manual auto ni erpats Ranger pa e ang laki nun sanay ako sa altis AT. I am going to practice really soon sa auto nya para marunong ako.

halos alang learning curve ang matic. manual kelangan sanayin. pag napunta ka sa ibang bansa or what not, who knows kelanganin mo pala yan.

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what you are not telling him is how beneficial it can be for him and for his family na matuto sya sa manual. sure mahihirapan ka sa una, sure pagod pagod ka pero sooner or later magagamay mo din yan =)

take it from me pinili ko matic, nag-aral ako manual, pero real driving matic lang. hindi ako mapakinabangan ng family ko pag coding auto ko kasi manual auto ni erpats Ranger pa e ang laki nun sanay ako sa altis AT. I am going to practice really soon sa auto nya para marunong ako.

halos alang learning curve ang matic. manual kelangan sanayin. pag napunta ka sa ibang bansa or what not, who knows kelanganin mo pala yan.

[_Cathy_]

I drive a manual and I have no problem at all. Reminds me of my Kuya's driver who only knows automatic

Although my Altis is giving me a huge headache, I would still choose it over a City. Because it's a compact.

[jomskeet]

I really want to drive a manual. Pero dahil sa mga suggestions na nabasa ko dito, parang ayaw ko na hahaha.

Pero ang isa kasi sa iniisip ko, pag nasanay ako sa automatic, kahit marunong ako mag manual baka mahirapan na ko magdrive ng manual heheheh.

[halowan]

I really want to drive a manual. Pero dahil sa mga suggestions na nabasa ko dito, parang ayaw ko na hahaha.

Pero ang isa kasi sa iniisip ko, pag nasanay ako sa automatic, kahit marunong ako mag manual baka mahirapan na ko magdrive ng manual heheheh.

Depende lang yan kung gano ka ka-passionate mag MT. I drive a MT for like 12 years. Mapa heavy traffic, mapa uphill ng Baguio, kahit sobrang pagod. Magiging depende talaga kung trip mo ba talaga or not. Tho did replace it for an Altis CVT as my daily. Inaantok ako sa expressway honestly. Lalo na kung may mga kalaro, I dont feel the vibe

[kubuntux]

I really want to drive a manual. Pero dahil sa mga suggestions na nabasa ko dito, parang ayaw ko na hahaha.

Pero ang isa kasi sa iniisip ko, pag nasanay ako sa automatic, kahit marunong ako mag manual baka mahirapan na ko magdrive ng manual heheheh.

Manual is still better than Automatic - pero it only works for weekend cars. If you're going to use the car for daily city drive, please mag-automatic tranny ka na lang. Esp kung sa EDSA ka dadaan, tapos slow moving for 1-2 hrs.

Sa una siguro, for a first few km, medyo maninibago ka when you drive Manual again, pero mabilis lang naman maka-adapt uli.

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I really want to drive a manual. Pero dahil sa mga suggestions na nabasa ko dito, parang ayaw ko na hahaha.

Pero ang isa kasi sa iniisip ko, pag nasanay ako sa automatic, kahit marunong ako mag manual baka mahirapan na ko magdrive ng manual heheheh.

Manual is still better than Automatic - pero it only works for weekend cars. If you're going to use the car for daily city drive, please mag-automatic tranny ka na lang. Esp kung sa EDSA ka dadaan, tapos slow moving for 1-2 hrs.

Sa una siguro, for a first few km, medyo maninibago ka when you drive Manual again, pero mabilis lang naman maka-adapt uli.

[dr. d]

I really want to drive a manual. Pero dahil sa mga suggestions na nabasa ko dito, parang ayaw ko na hahaha.

Pero ang isa kasi sa iniisip ko, pag nasanay ako sa automatic, kahit marunong ako mag manual baka mahirapan na ko magdrive ng manual heheheh.

try them both out, first.
drive MT, and drive AT. then compare.
some folks here prefer MT, even as they drive both AT and MT.
as the long AT vs. MT thread says, "it's a personal choice".

[1D4LV]

try them both out, first.
drive MT, and drive AT. then compare.
some folks here prefer MT, even as they drive both AT and MT.
as the long AT vs. MT thread says, "it's a personal choice".

isa ako dito.
i prefer using the MT because of the control... maski trapik pa yan.
kaya mas lagi kong gamit yung altis na MT ko, kesa dun sa MS ko na matic na pinapagamit ko kay misis.
si misis naman, medyo matagal na nag drive, pero di talaga nya magamay ang MT....

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try them both out, first.
drive MT, and drive AT. then compare.
some folks here prefer MT, even as they drive both AT and MT.
as the long AT vs. MT thread says, "it's a personal choice".

isa ako dito.
i prefer using the MT because of the control... maski trapik pa yan.
kaya mas lagi kong gamit yung altis na MT ko, kesa dun sa MS ko na matic na pinapagamit ko kay misis.
si misis naman, medyo matagal na nag drive, pero di talaga nya magamay ang MT....

[kimbon]

I like the M/T better. It makes me feel in better control. But then again, there's no traffic on my route to and from work so I don't mind a manual. Another advantage, I let my battery die. Pag inabutan sa labas, push start na lang Then I go home and call motolite. Hehe.
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newbie question here. di ba ang term ng push start ay pag start ng engine na hindi na "pinapasok" ang key sa ignition switch at kadyot naman ang tawag to re-start ang engine pag dead batt na???

[_Cathy_]

newbie question here. di ba ang term ng push start ay pag start ng engine na hindi na "pinapasok" ang key sa ignition switch at kadyot naman ang tawag to re-start ang engine pag dead batt na???

Ganun ba? Basta pag na dead batt ako, nagpapatulong ako itulak yung auto. On ko ignition. Lagay ko sa second gear, tapos apak clutch at gas, pag naramdaman ko na engine, press sa gas, release ng clutch, start engine. Basta mabilisan haha.

[Calistro]

Ganun ba? Basta pag na dead batt ako, nagpapatulong ako itulak yung auto. On ko ignition. Lagay ko sa second gear, tapos apak clutch at gas, pag naramdaman ko na engine, press sa gas, release ng clutch, start engine. Basta mabilisan haha.

Simula non nabasa ko un jumper cable story ni lsb, naappreciate ko lalo ang AT cars hahahah

On topic, just make sure you know how to drive a MT. Matatantya mo naman during driving lesson kung mas pabor ka sa AT or MT. Sabihin mo sa instructor idaan ka sa traffic heheh. Parang mas ok minsan un MT para parehong binti ang masakit, hindi lang kanan pag AT haha

[dct]

Ganun ba? Basta pag na dead batt ako, nagpapatulong ako itulak yung auto. On ko ignition. Lagay ko sa second gear, tapos apak clutch at gas, pag naramdaman ko na engine, press sa gas, release ng clutch, start engine. Basta mabilisan haha.

Jump start ang tawag

[SkyFlakes88]

If manual test drive the altis and slyphy 1.6 manuals. The sylphy manual will cost you just about 770k +freebies

[kimbon]

[QUOTE=dct;2615219 Ewan ko if anyone will agree to my opinion na mas magaling magdrive in general ang marunong ng manual kaysa matic lang ang alam. Yan kasi napansin ko sa mga kaibigan ko[/QUOTE]


OT lang - observation ko naman sa mga girl driver na marunong din sa MT, in general mas madiskarte magdrive sa daan pero kung A/T lang pa-bebe yan...

[dct]

OT lang - observation ko naman sa mga girl driver na marunong din sa MT, in general mas madiskarte magdrive sa daan pero kung A/T lang pa-bebe yan...

Tama tama. Pag marunong ng manual panay ang change gear e. Hahaha

[dct]

Parang manual vs automatic na ang thread ah. Haha. Mas masarap talaga ang automatic. Mas makakafocus ka pa sa pagtuto pano tantsahin ang sasakyan, pano basahin ang galaw ng ibang sasakyan. BUT, pag marunong ka na ng manual, marunong ka na ng lahat ng sasakyan. Kahit truck pa yan (except kung di mo matansa ang haba at lapad). Ewan ko if anyone will agree to my opinion na mas magaling magdrive in general ang marunong ng manual kaysa matic lang ang alam. Yan kasi napansin ko sa mga kaibigan ko

[SkyFlakes88]

I drive both and pag traffic hinahanap ko yun matic pero sa long drives yun manual naman hanap ko.

All i can say is pag bata ka pa mag manual ka na lang. Hindi mo pa iindahin yun kakaapak sa clutch pedal e. Pag nasa 40's ka na medyo wishing ka na sa matics. [emoji4]

[danizthemenace]

I think its important that you'll learn how drive in Manual kasi if marunong ka then hawak ka ng AT sisiw na lang but since na heavy traffic na dadaan mo Mag Automatic ka na lang. Nadadaan ko pala yang route mo, for a beginner driver like for sure mamatayan ka ng makina nyan at baka mapaatras ka pa sa uphill. Lalo na pag dumaan ka ng Espana going to Welcome Rotonda, Roosevelt to Delta ave., then Highway to Q.C circle. Naku sobrang traffic dyan esp. pag rush hour.

[jut703]

I judge people who can't drive manuals. Haha. Sa kabataan ngayon majority di na marunong magmanual. Usually tuturuan sa driving school, but first car palang matic na so wala na talagang practice.

Actually hindi lang kabataan, but people who started driving in the last 5 years, kahit pa 40 years old ka nung natuto magdrive. Bihira nalang kasi manual ngayon.

[1D4LV]

if you have started driving in a manual, madali lang mag shift to AT.... you can still drive an MT but may onting learning curve... sanayan lang yan. still up to you though.

[Kestana]

Ewan ko if anyone will agree to my opinion na mas magaling magdrive in general ang marunong ng manual kaysa matic lang ang alam. Yan kasi napansin ko sa mga kaibigan ko

From my observation ganun rin. Mas-aware yung mga kilala ko na marunong mag-manual kaysa yung automatic lang alam. Iba kasi kung marunong ka sa manual, it requires additional motor skills. Makes you more alert and focused because the shifting process is something you can screw up.

Btw, I don't believe that you can forget driving a manual. Before 1997, my mom drove only manual. From 1997 to 2004 she exclusively drove automatic. When we got a manual Altis in 2004, parang wala lang. She never forgot. Same thing for me, 4 years na rin ako exclusively automatic, but I can still drive a manual without issue. Medyo konting sanayan lang after a few minutes because of differences in clutch depth, throttle sensitivity and engine power which differs from car to car.

I drive both and pag traffic hinahanap ko yun matic pero sa long drives yun manual naman hanap ko.[emoji4]

This is why I prefer DCT or traditional 5 or 6 speed AT na may manual mode. Next best thing to a manual. Kung gusto mo umarangkada sa long drive no problem. Yung manual mode ng CVT iba eh, parang nasa video game ka. No mechanical feel that you actually shifted and the rubber band effect is still there. Shift in power band and delivery is not instantaneous. Parang single gear all throughout. Kahit 2.0 XV or 2.0 Altis na CVT madali lang i-overtake kung naka 1.6 ka na manual tranny or AT with manual mode. :rofl: Kaya ako alam ko yung mga naka CVT dyan like the HR-V and XV masaya sila paglaruan when I'm driving a technically less powerful car kasi alam ko mabagal sila.

Despite my current preference for automatics, I hate CVTs with a passion. Sucks all the fun out of driving and makes your engine feel weaker than it is. Would've actually gotten a Forester if it didn't have a CVT. I hope DCT gets better adoption by economy brands like Toyota and Honda in the next few years.

The most advanced transmissions these days offer better fuel efficiency than a skilled driver in a manual can. Unfortunately those transmissions are expensive and only make it to developed countries like the US, where they have laws that promote lower emissions and better fuel economy and where customers are willing to pay for the convenience of an automatic. Manuals have been relegated to enthusiast-only in developed countries. Maybe I'll get an MX-5 MT in a few years for weekend drives. Sana nalang may manual pa by then.