nissan navara brute or isuzu dmax lt 4x4

[jess25strada]

Engine name: 3.0 V6 dCi (V9X)
Layout: V6 / 65°
Number of cylinders/valves: 6/24
Air intake system: Turbo Intercooler
Injection type: Diesel direct injection, 1800 bar double common rail, 7 hole Piezo injectors
Balance shaft : no
Crankcase/cylinder head material: Cast Iron/Aluminium
Cylinder block material: Compacted Graphite Iron (CGI)
Displacement: 2991cm3
Bore X stroke: 84mm X 90mm
Compression ratio: 16:1
Camshaft Drive: Single stage chain
Emission control system: EGR + Catalyst
Maximum power: 170kw/3750rpm (235ch)
Maximum torque: 550nm/1750rpm, 500Nm available from 1500rpm
7-speed A/T Tiptronic
0-100km/h: 9”30
3000kg towing capacity[/QUOTE]


pag lumabas to dito sa pinas for sale kagad navara ko buy ko kagad V6 NAVARA

FC is not n isue pinagaaraw araw ko panga V8 EXPEDITION ko[/QUOTE]

[Navman101]

Ako din Jess for sale agad yung truck ko! Hahaha!

FC? May 2 Vios ako kung gusto ko magtipid.

Saka sanay na ako sa consumption ng Tucson ThetaII Gas 2.0 na 7kms/L lang output.

[Wh1stl3r]

Here are actual dyno figures of the 2:

Navara (4x2, 4x4 Brute)


Dmax (all current gen models)


Blue lines are stock.

This shows that the "flat" torque curve is a myth. Actual readings show that while the Dmax's rate of drop in torque is more gradual, at no point does it exceed the Navara's higher torque, best it could do is match it at around 3,000 RPM. Before and after that point the torque is always higher.

And an anecdote re: my "less abused" Nav:

I'd abuse the Dmax the same way if I could but unfortunately the tub is too small the above load won't fit.

[AKI125]

Paulit ulit nlang mga datas.

Sir TS another factor po you need to take a look at is the proximity of the dealership ng vehicle that you had decided to get. Since most of the manufacturers offers three years warranty, dapat malapit at convinient sayo yun dealership sa place po ninyo and another good back up plan is to look for next nearest dealership just in case youre not satisfied with the primary dealership atleast you have a second option to bring in your unit. Since 100000 or 3 years warranty is quite long din, its best to have your servicing done by the dealership to avoid any problem with regards to your warranty claim.

Since your present vehicle is an eagle series 4x4, you have an idea na rin as to how much you are spending for its maintenace. Same rin yan with the navara if you plan to get one. Air filter is required to be replaced every 15k or lower depending sa enviroment if dusty or not. I can suggest to replace it with a after market drop in filter instead para linis linis nalang. Both fuel filters are recommended to be replaced every 10k or kung kailangan lang if malinis pa the dealership would recommend to you na good for another 5k sa mileage ninyo. Hindi po mapili what fuel to use sa navara, personally im usinh petron diesel max lang infact sa lahat na diesel powered vehicles namin kasi sayang yun rebate sa bpi petron mastercard. Hehe!

Kung sakaling meron ka na napiling vehicle that is right for you. Pigain po ninyo yun sales agrnt to get the deal. To give you an example, if im getting another service unit for my company at first they offered me a 131000 down na all in, i was abke to bargain this down to 98000 nalang ilalabas ko plus get all the freebie as possible. I believe both units youre interested doesnt come with a bedliner, try po ninyo ask kung puede ilibre po sayo yun bedliner.
HTH. Post konalang kung meron pa ako naisip.

[Navman101]

magaling ka lang kasi sa pagtype at pagkuha ng pictures sa net. bakit takot ka subukan yung pinagtatanggol mo na DMAX na itapat head to head with the Nav?


Sorry TS, pero this is getting ugly. Obviously, one person here is not making it easy for everyone.


Eto lang po tingnan nyo...

DMAX LT:




Navara Brute: (minus the graphics and stepboard - XE model meron)

[hinDMaxsiado]

magaling ka lang kasi sa pagtype at pagkuha ng pictures sa net. bakit takot ka subukan yung pinagtatanggol mo na DMAX na itapat head to head with the Nav?

Sorry TS, pero this is getting ugly. Obviously, one person here is not making it easy for everyone.

Eto lang po tingnan nyo...

DMAX LT:
http://www.auto-searchphilippines.co...zu_DMAX_LT.jpg


Navara Brute: (minus the graphics and stepboard - XE model meron)
http://cdn.sulitstatic.com/images/20...17_img3716.jpg

Hehehehe Sir Nav naman.... Mali pa picture ng 4x4 DMax LT, yan lang yung 4x2 LT na 2.5-litre 4JA1 non-CRDi ang pinapakita mo sir hehe at hindi po ang 3.0-litre CRDi DMax LT ....Iwasto mo naman ang information mo hehe....

Gaya nga ng sinabi ko sir, maki-karera po kayo hanggang gusto niyo kahit kanino, walang pumipigil po sa inyo by all means.... Kung bilis nga lang hinahanap ko po sana sir, kumuha na sana ako ng Santa Fe o di kaya Ferrari hehe....


Aanhin ko ang Navara na mahina sa gapangan at kargahan bilang utility pickup.... Aanhin ko ang pickup na mahina sa low-end rpm at makas lumamon ng crudo? Taka pa po kayo na 6-speed na nga ang Navara ngunit lakas pa rin lumamon ng crudo hehehehe....

Aanhin ko ang pickup na habang binibirit ko ang silinyador,"negative" naman ang torque slope simula sa maagang 2000 rpm lang kahit gaano umakyat rpm nito, parang spaghetting pababa-nang-pababa naman ang torque, at halos walang torque below 2000 rpm.... Kahit sino naman siguro maliban sa mga Nissan fanatics, hindi bibili ng ganyang pickup pang-kargahan ....Dahil bukod sa ganito ang torque characteristic eh malakas pa lumamon ng crudo....




May nalalaman pa po kayong "not making it easy for everybody ha" sir at namumulitika pa po kayo sa TS hehe.... Kayo lang naman Navara boys ang nahihirapan tanggapin ang mga ito dahil sa ego and pride na akala niyo invincible po ang Navara ninyo na hindi naman

[jess25strada]

nagmukaha pa tuloy na wala kang pambili ng crudo

[jess25strada]

1.5 to 2 kpl dif ng navara sa dmax sa fc if from manila to isabela is only 250pesos gas price dif kung sulit naman sa lakas at tulin ng ride mo e san kapa parang tip kolang sa driver ko un weekly ah pag natutuwa ako sa trabaho nya at sa mga tauhan ko sa farm kulang panga pambili ng alfonso

[Navman101]

Hindi mo lang matanggap na nalagpasan ang dated mo na truck.And obviously, di ka marunong tumingin ng dyno results na pinost ni whistler. Mas bago pa yung tinesting na DMAX kesa sa Nav.

Walang pahihinantnan itong thread na ito kundi pagsasayang ng oras namin sa mga kagaya mo. Pag meron ka ng sariling test results, saka ka maspost dito.

Tanggapin mo na luma na yang truck mo at may mas magaling dyan na available locally (and I am not claiming yung Nav lang ang higit dyan sa DMAX mo).

Pagbibigyan ko ang trip mo. Dahil mahilig ka din naman kumuha ng ilalagay mo dito from the net, eto sayo...

::2011 Auto Focus People's Choice Awards::

Tingnan mo pang ilan yung DMAX mo kumpara sa Navara, masyado ka maraming satsat.

[Walter]

Stop feeding the troll. He thinks everyone who buys a pickup will load it up and go to and from a mountain daily. Never mind the stiff ride and lousy handling when driven without load on a highway.

[LadyRider]

Anong kaguluhan ito mga paps? Ingat lang po tayo at baka masara nanaman itong thread.... :war::police:

[Navman101]

sorry po ma'am.

di na po mauulit.

[AKI125]

Sir, 144ps/356nm engine yan, uulitin ko pa ulit sayo 144ps/356nm engine yan as indicated navara 4x2, navara 4x4 brute. From 356nm to 365nm according to you then tumaas pa ng 9. Since youre good in making this spreadsheet comparision why not make one based sa dyno sheet in terms of speed/hp/tq/rpm of both vehicles for the benefit of the TS

[hinDMaxsiado]

Sir, 144ps/356nm engine yan, uulitin ko pa ulit sayo 144ps/356nm engine yan as indicated navara 4x2, navara 4x4 brute. From 356nm to 365nm according to you then tumaas pa ng 9. Since youre good in making this spreadsheet comparision why not make one based sa dyno sheet in terms of speed/hp/tq/rpm of both vehicles for the benefit of the TS

MALAKING KASINUNGALINGAN na naman yan sir AKI125.... Nagpapalusot ka na nga sa una sa final gear-ratio na 3.538 sa Navara manual-tranny kahit 3.692 ito sir, ngaun naman sa year model ng Navara Brute tsk, tsk, tsk

Nakita mo lang na isinulat lang yan ni Boss Wh1stl3r na Brute 4x4, kahit kitang-kita mo na 2008 Navara ang ginawa ng Berrima Diesel, naki-ride ka naman sir ....Na-introduced lang ang Navara Brute 4x4 noong July 2010 lang bilang isang cheap addition ng Navara line-up to cater for the general masses.... Back in 2008, ang 4x4 Navara ay 174 ps at 403 Nm. Kaya ko alam yan, kasi yan ang pilit binebenta sa akin ng isang ahente sa Nissan Balintawak.... Ito ang Nissan centre bago pumasok ng NLEX going north-bound hehehehe

HUWAG NAMAN GAANONG HALATANG-OBVIOUS ANG PAG-SISINUNGALING SIR.... 365 Nm lang pala yan sa chassis-dyno at HINDI 403 Nm at 2000 rpm, which is 10% lower than specified, at mabilis pang mag-deplete ang torque nito dipping-down by as much as 25.9% to only 271 Nm by 3000 rpm hehehehe

Bagkus sir mas advantaged pa niyan ang 4th-gear ng Navara ah kaysa DMax dahil mas malaki ng di hamak ang resulting gearing ng Navara at 4.77 (1.291 by 3.691), NGUNIT mabilis pa rin bumaba ang torque nito hehehehe.... Buti pa ang DMax kahit disadvantaged ito at 4th-gear (1.000 by 4.1 = 4.10) compared sa Navara, mas mataas ang torque nito at 315 Nm kaysa sa paper-spec nito na 294 Nm lang....
....Tapos pababa lang ng 13.8% to 271 Nm ang torque nito from 2000 rpm to 3000 rpm at mabilis pa ang land-speed ng DMax kaysa sa Navara at 4th-gear din hehehehe

[arsen]

MALAKING KASINUNGALINGAN na naman yan sir AKI125.... Nagpapalusot ka na nga sa una sa final gear-ratio mo na 3.538 sa Navara manual kahit 3.692 ito, ngaun naman sa year model ng Navara Brute tsk, tsk, tsk

Nakita mo lang na isinulat lang yan ni Boss Whistler na Brute 4x4, kahit kitang-kita mo na 2008 Navara ang ginawa ng Berrima Diesel, naki-ride ka naman sir ....Na-introduced lang ang Navara Brute 4x4 noong July 2010 bilang isang cheap addition ng Navara line-up to cater for the general masses.... Back in 2008, ang 4x4 Navara ay 174 ps at 403 Nm. Kaya ko alam yan, kasi yan ang pilit binebenta sa akin ng isang ahente sa Nissan Balintawak.... Ito ang Nissan centre bago pumasok ng NLEX going north-bound hehehehe

HUWAG NAMAN GAANONG-HALATANG OBVIOUS ANG PAG-SISINUNGALING SIR.... 365 Nm lang pala yan sa chassis-dyno at HINDI 403 Nm at 2000 rpm, which is 10% lower than specified, at mabilis pang mag-deplete ang torque niya dipping-down by as much as 25.9% to only 271 Nm by 3000 rpm hehehehe

Bagkus mas advantaged pa ang 4th-gear ng Navara sa 4th-gear ng DMax dahil mas malaki ng di hamak ang resulting gearing ng Navara at 4.76, NGUNIT mabilis pa rin bumaba ang torque nito hehehehe.... Buti pa ang DMax kahit disadvantaged ito at 4th-gear compared sa Navara, mas mataas ang torque nito at 315 Nm kaysa sa paper-spec nito na 294 Nm lang....
....Tapos pababa lang ng 13.8% to 271 Nm ang torque nito from 2000 rpm to 3000 rpm at mabilis pa ang land-speed ng DMax kaysa sa Navara at 4th-gear din hehehehe

Let me help you fre.

May dalawang versions ang current engines ng Navara na binebenta sa Pinas. isang naka set sa "MID" 356N-m*2000rpm para sa mga 4x2 variants at isang naka program sa "HIGH" 403N-m*2000rpm para sa mga 4x4 variants.

Ang dyno results daw ay galing sa 2008 model na "MID" ang engine. Lumalabas na mas mataas pa nga ang dyno result compared sa indicative value ng Nissan.

No further comment... hehehe

[hinDMaxsiado]

Let me help you fre.

May dalawang versions ang current engines ng Navara na binebenta sa Pinas. isang naka set sa "MID" 356N-m*2000rpm para sa mga 4x2 variants at isang naka program sa "HIGH" 403N-m*2000rpm para sa mga 4x4 variants.

Ang dyno results DAW ay galing sa 2008 model na "MID" ang engine. Lumalabas na mas mataas pa nga ang dyno result compared sa indicative value ng Nissan.

No further comment... hehehe

Ayun naman pala 'Sen, "DAW" pala yun, meaning manipulated ang writings nila hehehehe

[arsen]

Ayun naman pala 'Sen, "DAW" pala yun, meaning manipulated ang writings nila hehehehe

Hmmm not sure sa specs ng Navara brute... alam ko lang stripped down at pangharabas version ng Navara yang brute. Kung intended na pangharabas, kailangan taasan ang reliability ng makina by lowering the strain sa mga parts. so kahit 4x4 yan malamang naga program din sa "MID" ang engine na ginamit sa "brute".

Naka indicate naman yata na 4x2 and 4x4 "brute" ang dyno specs di ba?

[mondragon]

isuzu d-max has more capacity in load and towing capacity than nabara.. kumbaga uu malaki ang nissan nabara gaya ng patrol, pero AMPAW nmn ..puro yabang lang.... ganti lng yan, use navara 4 pasosyal medium loading...pag pang heavy duty hauling tlg, d-max na.. ilang diesel engine npproduce ng nissan?khit ung nissan diesel na separate entity nissan eh panis n panis sa isuzu diesel.. isuzu diesel engines mern clang pang industrial, commercial trucks and vehicles,at marine diesel engines... may ganun ba nissin?ay nissan pala? mgcheck k sa daan ilang nissan truck makita mu?baka 1 out of 100.. khit mgsurvey ka sa daan mkkta mo, 50% isuzu trucks mkkta mo.. ung remaining 50% hati-hati na sa lahat ng ibang brands un... #1 diesel engine producer and #1 truck maker... san ka pa? yang nissan uban ay urban mu, good hauler din kaso pang medium duty nlng tlg yan,pls lang wag na mag Feeling.... eh ung isuzu flexi-truck/isuzu ivan heavy duty hauler for people+gamit yun... pag pinakumpleto mo sa mga driver ung PAG DIESEL=______? ilan ssagot ng nissan, ilan ssgot ng isuzu?huh?

going back sa topic nyo, wg kau msyado mgyabang sa malaki nyong navarra.. eh kaya nman yan tapatan ng strada,hi-lux,mazda,lalo n isuzu.. khit d sya ganun kalaki supreme power nman

[Ry_Tower]

isuzu d-max has more capacity in load and towing capacity than nabara.. kumbaga uu malaki ang nissan nabara gaya ng patrol, pero AMPAW nmn ..puro yabang lang.... ganti lng yan, use navara 4 pasosyal medium loading...pag pang heavy duty hauling tlg, d-max na.. ilang diesel engine npproduce ng nissan?khit ung nissan diesel na separate entity nissan eh panis n panis sa isuzu diesel.. isuzu diesel engines mern clang pang industrial, commercial trucks and vehicles,at marine diesel engines... may ganun ba nissin?ay nissan pala? mgcheck k sa daan ilang nissan truck makita mu?baka 1 out of 100.. khit mgsurvey ka sa daan mkkta mo, 50% isuzu trucks mkkta mo.. ung remaining 50% hati-hati na sa lahat ng ibang brands un... #1 diesel engine producer and #1 truck maker... san ka pa? yang nissan uban ay urban mu, good hauler din kaso pang medium duty nlng tlg yan,pls lang wag na mag Feeling.... eh ung isuzu flexi-truck/isuzu ivan heavy duty hauler for people+gamit yun... pag pinakumpleto mo sa mga driver ung PAG DIESEL=______? ilan ssagot ng nissan, ilan ssgot ng isuzu?huh?

going back sa topic nyo, wg kau msyado mgyabang sa malaki nyong navarra.. eh kaya nman yan tapatan ng strada,hi-lux,mazda,lalo n isuzu.. khit d sya ganun kalaki supreme power nman

Bawal po text peak dito.

Also sabi mo 'wag magyabang pero nagbubuhat ka din bangko? Grow-up.

[cydepx44]

isuzu d-max has more capacity in load and towing capacity than nabara.. kumbaga uu malaki ang nissan nabara gaya ng patrol, pero AMPAW nmn ..puro yabang lang.... ganti lng yan, use navara 4 pasosyal medium loading...pag pang heavy duty hauling tlg, d-max na.. ilang diesel engine npproduce ng nissan?khit ung nissan diesel na separate entity nissan eh panis n panis sa isuzu diesel.. isuzu diesel engines mern clang pang industrial, commercial trucks and vehicles,at marine diesel engines... may ganun ba nissin?ay nissan pala? mgcheck k sa daan ilang nissan truck makita mu?baka 1 out of 100.. khit mgsurvey ka sa daan mkkta mo, 50% isuzu trucks mkkta mo.. ung remaining 50% hati-hati na sa lahat ng ibang brands un... #1 diesel engine producer and #1 truck maker... san ka pa? yang nissan uban ay urban mu, good hauler din kaso pang medium duty nlng tlg yan,pls lang wag na mag Feeling.... eh ung isuzu flexi-truck/isuzu ivan heavy duty hauler for people+gamit yun... pag pinakumpleto mo sa mga driver ung PAG DIESEL=______? ilan ssagot ng nissan, ilan ssgot ng isuzu?huh?

going back sa topic nyo, wg kau msyado mgyabang sa malaki nyong navarra.. eh kaya nman yan tapatan ng strada,hi-lux,mazda,lalo n isuzu.. khit d sya ganun kalaki supreme power nman

wow... almost 6 months in the making ang statement na ito? buddies na nga sa fb yung dalawa :D sa matinding magkatungali sa thread na ito eh! talk about trolling level