nissan navara brute or isuzu dmax lt 4x4

[hinDMaxsiado]

Good day Sir ZapFreedom.

Heto po ang sinasabi ko po na ipo-post ko pa po.... Makikita niyo po diyan comparison ng mga specified gear ratios at tire aspect ratios and sizes, resulting rpms at resulting landspeed ng mga manual-transmissions 3.0-litre DMax, 2.5-litre Navara, at 3.0-litre Hilux.

Marahil po nakita po ninyo siguro sa Page 2 nitong thread ang instrument panel ko po nang ako'y tumatakbo halos 85 kilometres per hour at an engine-radial speed of 1750 rpm sa DMax manual-transmission at ang fuel-mileage ko po at this speed sa NLEX ay 21.5 km per litre.

Below po after the picture posted as regards to the DMax, makikita niyo po ang supporting estimate:




3.0-litre DMax running 84.4 kph at 1750 rpm (5th-gear)
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...xat1750rpm.jpg

Based on the gearing specs of Navara, even when it's running at an engine-speed of 1750 rpm, it is estimated to be running slightly slower at 82.0 kph (6th-gear)
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...aat1750rpm.jpg

Heto naman ang sa 3.0-litre Hilux sir.... it is running at 84.9 kph at the same engine-speed of 1750 rpm (5th-gear)
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...xat1750rpm.jpg


Sa 3500 rpm naman po, heto po ang landspeed ng bawat isa:

DMax running at 165.7 kph at 5th-gear
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...xat3500rpm.jpg

Navara running at 164.0 kph at 6th-gear
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...aat3500rpm.jpg

Hilux running at 169.8 kph at 5th-gear
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...xat3500rpm.jpg

[12vdc]

^Totoo kaya yan HindiMax? kasi sa 1750 rpm ng navara almost 90kph na. pagpatak ng 2k rpm 100kph.
Sira kaya lahat ng instrument panel ng navara?

Ibig sabihin ba ng excel file na yan masmabilis ang hilux at dmax sa navara?? Para kasing iba yung nasa paper at excel compared sa actual?

[OJ213]

bro , you're asking the wrong guy (hindimax) hahanap lang yan ng another figures sa net then i po post niya as his answer , mine is clocking 120kmh *2k rpm , nakahiram na din ako ng dmax para ma road test, ayun mas maingay pa siya sa
K&N APOLLO KO SA AKYATAN ,nag alarm yung 2 kotse na naka park..tsk tsk.. almost bnew unit (3mos plang), kunan ko sana ng video kaya lang hindi pumayag yung ahente/owner.. pina lunch ko nalang tuloy

hirap diyan eh walang personal exp and just downloading his answers. up to know nobody is vouching his statements, mga pics niya you can see it all just google it, i doubt you even knew them , nag di dirt bike kaba kamo? sino mga ka groupo mo? and baka kilala ko o ng mga kakilala ko at malaman ang totoo, im just asking lang naman, prove what you are saying, and for the fact if you really happen to have a pick up !!

sana mabasa ng izuzu mga post mo dito maybe they can give you one

[Ry_Tower]

Hay naku sir, sinabi mo pa hehe ....Makukupad po talaga ang Crosswind. 1997 pa po ang makina ng Crosswind at pilit pa rin binebenta ng Isuzu na walang engine upgrades. Ok lang po sana nang nakuha po ni misis ang sa kanya way back 2003, medyo acceptable pa noon, pero naman sir 14 years nang existing ang makinang yan at pinipilit pa rin ibenta ng Isuzu with only facelifts after facelifts....
....Nabulaga nga ako sir na ang Crosswind Sportivo na hindi man lang CRDi ang makina at 2.5-litre lang eh mahal pa sa DMax LS manual-tranny haha!!!!

Tama yang Hyundai Tucson sir at magaganda naman talaga mga yan ....Nagbabalak din po ako actually na kumuha na ng Santa Fe R eVGT para sa lumalaki ko na familia sir, kaso pina-pangarap ko pa rin na sana dalhin ng Hyundai dito ang 6-speed manual-transmission ng Santa Fe na binebenta din sa ibang bansa, especially just this recently sa Hyundai forum, i heard about complaints at problems sa auto-tranny po nito, which somehow is a concern para sa akin....

Crosswind/hilander = adventure. Parehong gatasan ng kanilang mga respective companies hehe.

Tagal na sa market at hindi man lang mabigyan kahit na low-spec CRDi with intercooler at kahit standard turbo (buti nga crosswind meron low boost turbo).

[AKI125]

Ay gumulo ulit. I cant blame with the reaction of the owners of navara with the spreadsheet. I totally understand their sentiments, even i was shock to see the misleading computation. Again, im reminding everyone that im not against any individusl or group here.

Upon seeing the spreadsheet, i made my own computation. Bumalik ulit yun college years ko sa dlsu eng where in i try to analyze first the equation and formulas then justify the conclusion. FYI lang po mga sir, the 6 speed manual of the navara is the very same tranny of 370z which dual mass light weight kaya upon seeing the spreadsheet i cant believe that this tranny can only produce that speed at those certain RPM's. That is why i opted to do my own computation If ever may maling data ako kindly let me know.
Differential ratio of navara is 3.538
Gear ratio for manual 6 speed:
1st 4.692
2nd 2.705
3rd 1.747
4th 1.291
5th 1.000
6th 0.827
Navara's 5 speed automatic transmission
1st 3.827
2nd 2.368
3rd 1.520
4th 1.000
5th 0.834
Circumference based on 255/70R16 tires

Based on my computation(manual)
*1750 RPM
1st 15.2 KPH
2nd 26.3 KPH
3rd 40.74 KPH
4th 55.13 KPH
5th 71.18 KPH
6th 86.06 KPH

*3800 RPM
1st 33 KPH
2nd 57.1 KPH
3rd 88.47 KPH
4th 119.71 KPH
5th 154.55 KPH
6th 186.88 KPH

Im sure the nav boys will gonna love me for posting this since only a few pick up truck can reach this high RPM for now.
*4500 RPM
1st 39 KPH
2nd 67.7 KPH
3rd 104.76 KPH
4th 141.77 KPH
5th 183 KPH
6th 221.30 KPH

For the 5 speed automatic
*1750
1st 18.6 KPH
2nd 30.06 KPH
3rd 46.83 KPH
4th 71.18 KPH
5th 85.34 KPH

*3800 RPM
1st 40.38 KPH
2nd 65.27 KPH
3rd 101.67 KPH
4th 154.55 KPH
5th 185.31 KPH

Though the redline of the YD25DDTi is at 5000 RPM. For the matic the rev limiter is only at 4500 RPM
*4500 RPM
1st 47.82 KPH
2nd 77.29 KPH
3rd 120.41 KPH
4th 183 KPH
5th 219.45 KPH

[Navman101]

*TS: Like what most of the guys here suggested, schedule a test drive for both trucks, get a feel and drive it like how you would drive your truck, that way, you at least get 50% of your decision done. Better yet, if you have friends who own both models, borrow them for a day or two, load them with whatever you are to haul and drive your normal route... That should give you a better picture of what you would want sitting in your garage.

I know I did, and I know 5 of them in this thread, all of them are businessmen, one doing construction and using his sport utility truck as substitute if the primary service is not back in time to do some other deliveries. Another one hauls water bottles and tell you, he loads the truck to the brim, two of them hauls farm feeds (one with a canopy and one with a Carrboy roller lid, and another one who is a speed freak and wants to get the most out of his truck (and of course using the truck as substitute for hauling "light" cargo, and this is in comparison with an 18-wheeler truck or a tractor-head with a 40-footer chassis in tow) and all of them are happy with their trucks. I'm pretty sure you know what truck I'm driving at since most of them already told you what they do with their trucks.

I did the same, test drove 3 trucks, did not bother testing the 2 other competitors (because of looks - first truck, and brand - second truck) and ended up buying the Navara. It's been over a year now (13 months to be exact today) and the sport utility truck still puts a big smile on my face just by looking at it after giving it some TLC, or just after the sheer driving pleasure it brings (considering it's a truck).

Don't mind the rubbish images, excel sheets, etc as these are all "Manufacturer Claims" and may vary from the actual unit. That's the small disclaimer printed in every brochure. So do schedule a test drive and decide for yourself.

Let me give you something to think about after test-driving both models...

edessa Navara - YouTube


ENJOY!

[vinj]

*TS: Like what most of the guys here suggested, schedule a test drive for both trucks, get a feel and drive it like how you would drive your truck, that way, you at least get 50% of your decision done. Better yet, if you have friends who own both models, borrow them for a day or two, load them with whatever you are to haul and drive your normal route... That should give you a better picture of what you would want sitting in your garage.

I know I did, and I know 5 of them in this thread, all of them are businessmen, one doing construction and using his sport utility truck as substitute if the primary service is not back in time to do some other deliveries. Another one hauls water bottles and tell you, he loads the truck to the brim, two of them hauls farm feeds (one with a canopy and one with a Carrboy roller lid, and another one who is a speed freak and wants to get the most out of his truck (and of course using the truck as substitute for hauling "light" cargo, and this is in comparison with an 18-wheeler truck or a tractor-head with a 40-footer chassis in tow) and all of them are happy with their trucks. I'm pretty sure you know what truck I'm driving at since most of them already told you what they do with their trucks.

I did the same, test drove 3 trucks, did not bother testing the 2 other competitors (because of looks - first truck, and brand - second truck) and ended up buying the Navara. It's been over a year now (13 months to be exact today) and the sport utility truck still puts a big smile on my face just by looking at it after giving it some TLC, or just after the sheer driving pleasure it brings (considering it's a truck).

Don't mind the rubbish images, excel sheets, etc as these are all "Manufacturer Claims" and may vary from the actual unit. That's the small disclaimer printed in every brochure. So do schedule a test drive and decide for yourself.

Let me give you something to think about after test-driving both models...

edessa Navara - YouTube


ENJOY!

Ditto... at the end, TEST DRIVE! The spec sheets and feedback are there to guide you to your shortlist but the test drive should seal the deal. Different strokes for different folks.

[Ifugi_Navi]

Ala eh Haaayyyy!!! Ala eh sana dito na matapos ang thesis ng masteral sa Tsikot University para maging certified MSDME. Master of Science in D-Max Engineering. Ala eh ang magpost pa ulit after nito panget. Joke lang.

[hinDMaxsiado]

…. I totally understand their sentiments, even i was shock to see the misleading computation. Again, im reminding everyone that im not against any individusl or group here.

Differential ratio of navara is 3.538

If ever may maling data ako kindly let me know….

[SIZE=3]Mabuti nga sir AKI125 nag-present po kayo ng estimates niyo,[/SIZE] lalo na you highlighted that the differential-gear ratio for the manual-tranny and auto-tranny Navara is just the same as 3.538, PARA MAGKA-ALAMAN NG TOTOO BASE SA SPECS NG NISSAN NAVARA.... Wala naman po sanang magagalit o mapipikon na Navara boy(s) dito dahil parte lang ito ng diskusyon....

The final-gear or differential gear ratio of the Navara’s auto and manual-trannies is NOT the same. Look at the picture of the official specs file of the 6-speed manual-tranny vs. the auto-tranny below. It is [SIZE=3]3.692[/SIZE] for the manual-tranny and NOT 3.538, as clearly stated (and highlighted) in the spec sheet, sir…. The 3.538 is ONLY for the auto-tranny....




You may verify the attached photo here sir: http://www.nissan.co.nz/pdf/specs/specs_navarastx.pdf


In the manual-tranny sir, it is clear also that when you change the officially-specified 3.692 final-gear ratio in the once presented before to 3.538 there will be an increase in the speed of the Navara that makes the Navara guys here obviously happy about it, even when it’s NOT actually the real case.

At 1750 rpm on the 6-speed manual-tranny Navara, it is ONLY speeding [SIZE=3]82.00 kph[/SIZE] and NOT 86.06 kph.... You even used 1.609 km (up to the 3rd-decimal point), instead of just rounding it off to 1.6 km is to 1.0 mile. Nothing wrong with it anyway sir....





Further on, at 3800 rpm, it is ONLY speeding [SIZE=3]178.00 kph[/SIZE] and NOT 186.88 kph, sir....

....And so on and so forth....


[SIZE=3]The Navara boys here "might" NOT like to hear the real truth, nor even look closely to the official spec-sheet provided by Nissan Motors....[/SIZE] Anything that pertains na babagal ang Navara, even when it's the company's official specification, simply isn't acceptable for them....

[Navman101]

Ditto... at the end, TEST DRIVE! The spec sheets and feedback are there to guide you to your shortlist but the test drive should seal the deal. Different strokes for different folks.

AMEN.

There is no perfect truck / car / compact / sedan / full-size / SUV or any category for that matter based on specs. It becomes perfect if it matches the needs / expectations of the buyer.

So again, test drive and seal the deal. ;)

Here's another video for you:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWjh5HsJfnI&NR=1]Nissan Navara/Frontier D40 Commercial - Power - YouTube[/ame]

:D

[hinDMaxsiado]

…. I totally understand their sentiments, even i was shock to see the misleading computation. Again, im reminding everyone that im not against any individusl or group here.

Differential ratio of navara is 3.538

If ever may maling data ako kindly let me know….

[SIZE=3]Mabuti nga sir AKI125 nag-present po kayo ng estimates niyo,[/SIZE] lalo na you highlighted that the differential-gear ratio for the manual-tranny and auto-tranny Navara is just the same as 3.538, PARA MAGKA-ALAMAN NG TOTOO BASE SA SPECS NG NISSAN NAVARA.... Wala naman po sanang magagalit o mapipikon na Navara boy(s) dito dahil parte lang ito ng diskusyon....

The final-gear or differential gear ratio of the Navara’s auto and manual-trannies is NOT the same. Look at the picture of the official specs file of the 6-speed manual-tranny vs. the auto-tranny below. It is [SIZE=3]3.692[/SIZE] for the manual-tranny and NOT 3.538, as clearly stated (and highlighted) in the spec sheet, sir…. The 3.538 is ONLY for the auto-tranny....




You may verify the attached photo here sir: http://www.nissan.co.nz/pdf/specs/specs_navarastx.pdf


In the manual-tranny sir, it is clear also that when you change the officially-specified 3.692 final-gear ratio in the once presented before to 3.538 there will be an increase in the speed of the Navara that makes the Navara guys here obviously happy about it, even when it’s NOT actually the real case.

At 1750 rpm on the 6-speed manual-tranny Navara, it is ONLY speeding [SIZE=3]82.00 kph[/SIZE] and NOT 86.06 kph.... You even used 1.609 km (up to the 3rd-decimal point), instead of just rounding it off to 1.6 km is to 1.0 mile. Nothing wrong with it anyway sir....





Further on, at 3800 rpm, it is ONLY speeding [SIZE=3]178.00 kph[/SIZE] and NOT 186.88 kph, sir....

....And so on and so forth....


[SIZE=3]The Navara boys here "might" NOT like to hear the real truth, nor even look closely to the official spec-sheet provided by Nissan Motors....[/SIZE] Anything that pertains na babagal ang Navara, even when it's the company's official specification, simply isn't acceptable for them....

[AKI125]

Sinabi na nga may data na mali coz i personally drives a matic the figures doesnt match with my actual experience but for the manual since i drive the manual unit occasionally the data hits the target. Im surprised sa manual nagkaroon ng maling data based sa brochure. With this i have to agree with vinj, spec sheets are for guidance and the best is to test drive the units. I have a feeling the differential data for the manual and matic was mistakening switch but we will never know unless someone would be nice enough to dismantle it to check the gearing to get the correct figures.

Dear TS,
Sorry kung magulo na yun thread po ninyo. Sorry po talaga.
Like almost all the forumers suggested here try ninyo itest drive mga units youre seeing for. There are so many factors to consider like height, comfort, durability, maintenace cost, location of the nearest dealer sa place ninyo etc etc...... Which kayo lang po makakasagot yan. Goodluck!

[Ifugi_Navi]

Ala eh uulitin ko lang ang aking kwento noong araw... Kumbaga eh, pamapakwela...

yung kilala ko, ala eh nagkwento sa akin nung nagkainuman kami eh, may navara din po siya gaya ko rin po at gaya din po niyo.

eto po ang kwento eh: minsan daw po eh magpapaservice siya ng navara niya doon province, eh nakita niya itong isang pickup. sabi niya eh masubukan nga itong pickup na ito, aba eh kinarera niya eh. aba eh ilang saglit lang eh nalagpasan niya itong isang pickup na ito eh. eh ayaw pumayag itong pickup na isa at pilit pa ring humabol sa navara, eh sagad na nga siya eh. eh ayaw nga nitong navara magpatalo eh, kaya pinakagat yung turbo, eh anong magagawa nung isang pickup na yun, eh di wala kundi humabol lang ng humabol. eh itong navara eh malapit na sa nissan eh, kailangan lumiko na siya eh. aba eh mga ilang sandali itong isang pickup na habol ng habol eh sumunod at lumiko rin sa nissan eh, kung saan lumiko yung navara. eh biglang gulat nung naka navara eh, akala siya itong sinundan eh. saka galit na galit yung driver nung isang pickup eh. eh may-ari pala siya nung nasabing pickup, eh sabi nung manager at ng mga security ng nissan ng mahinahon eh: "sir eh ano po ba ang problema natin sir at ano po maipaglilingkod sa namin sa inyo?". eh ang sagot nung may-ari ng humabol na pickup eh: "kasi naman eh, yung isang navara na pumasok dito eh, kinarera ako at nilagpasan ako eh. ala eh kung ganun na tinalo ako ng navara na iyan, ala eh mister manager, pwede bang presyuhan mo itong pickup ko at ipapalit ko ng navara?". ala eh pumayag si mister manager ng nissan, kaya iyon, umuwi siyang masaya na may bagong navara.

[Navman101]

Ala eh uulitin ko lang ang aking kwento noong araw... Kumbaga eh, pamapakwela...

yung kilala ko, ala eh nagkwento sa akin nung nagkainuman kami eh, may navara din po siya gaya ko rin po at gaya din po niyo.

eto po ang kwento eh: minsan daw po eh magpapaservice siya ng navara niya doon province, eh nakita niya itong isang pickup. sabi niya eh masubukan nga itong pickup na ito, aba eh kinarera niya eh. aba eh ilang saglit lang eh nalagpasan niya itong isang pickup na ito eh. eh ayaw pumayag itong pickup na isa at pilit pa ring humabol sa navara, eh sagad na nga siya eh. eh ayaw nga nitong navara magpatalo eh, kaya pinakagat yung turbo, eh anong magagawa nung isang pickup na yun, eh di wala kundi humabol lang ng humabol. eh itong navara eh malapit na sa nissan eh, kailangan lumiko na siya eh. aba eh mga ilang sandali itong isang pickup na habol ng habol eh sumunod at lumiko rin sa nissan eh, kung saan lumiko yung navara. eh biglang gulat nung naka navara eh, akala siya itong sinundan eh. saka galit na galit yung driver nung isang pickup eh. eh may-ari pala siya nung nasabing pickup, eh sabi nung manager at ng mga security ng nissan ng mahinahon eh: "sir eh ano po ba ang problema natin sir at ano po maipaglilingkod sa namin sa inyo?". eh ang sagot nung may-ari ng humabol na pickup eh: "kasi naman eh, yung isang navara na pumasok dito eh, kinarera ako at nilagpasan ako eh. ala eh kung ganun na tinalo ako ng navara na iyan, ala eh mister manager, pwede bang presyuhan mo itong pickup ko at ipapalit ko ng navara?". ala eh pumayag si mister manager ng nissan, kaya iyon, umuwi siyang masaya na may bagong navara.

PANALO! Hahahahaha!

Parang nung isang gabi sa SLEX, nakakita ako ng bagong pick up, kulay pula at plaka pa ng Manila Dealership ang nakakabit, nilagpasan ko crusing at 140KPH, bigla humabol, binaba ko ng 5th gear, konting diin ng gas pedal, up to 165KPH, shift to 6th gear, up to 170... 175... 180... 185... ayun nawala yung bagong DMAX sa likod ko, parang isang maliit na tuldok sa rearview mirror ko yung headlights nya.

[khurtzky03]

Ala eh uulitin ko lang ang aking kwento noong araw... Kumbaga eh, pamapakwela...

yung kilala ko, ala eh nagkwento sa akin nung nagkainuman kami eh, may navara din po siya gaya ko rin po at gaya din po niyo.

eto po ang kwento eh: minsan daw po eh magpapaservice siya ng navara niya doon province, eh nakita niya itong isang pickup. sabi niya eh masubukan nga itong pickup na ito, aba eh kinarera niya eh. aba eh ilang saglit lang eh nalagpasan niya itong isang pickup na ito eh. eh ayaw pumayag itong pickup na isa at pilit pa ring humabol sa navara, eh sagad na nga siya eh. eh ayaw nga nitong navara magpatalo eh, kaya pinakagat yung turbo, eh anong magagawa nung isang pickup na yun, eh di wala kundi humabol lang ng humabol. eh itong navara eh malapit na sa nissan eh, kailangan lumiko na siya eh. aba eh mga ilang sandali itong isang pickup na habol ng habol eh sumunod at lumiko rin sa nissan eh, kung saan lumiko yung navara. eh biglang gulat nung naka navara eh, akala siya itong sinundan eh. saka galit na galit yung driver nung isang pickup eh. eh may-ari pala siya nung nasabing pickup, eh sabi nung manager at ng mga security ng nissan ng mahinahon eh: "sir eh ano po ba ang problema natin sir at ano po maipaglilingkod sa namin sa inyo?". eh ang sagot nung may-ari ng humabol na pickup eh: "kasi naman eh, yung isang navara na pumasok dito eh, kinarera ako at nilagpasan ako eh. ala eh kung ganun na tinalo ako ng navara na iyan, ala eh mister manager, pwede bang presyuhan mo itong pickup ko at ipapalit ko ng navara?". ala eh pumayag si mister manager ng nissan, kaya iyon, umuwi siyang masaya na may bagong navara.

aba'y pagkakagaleng ika nga ni navman. kababayan pala ere, subukan niyang dmax na yan na dumaan dito sa ating bayan eh kukyugin yan, painumin muna ng gin sabay itsahan ng sigarilyo. aba! baka mauna pa ang nagmamaneho tumakbo kesa sa dmax niya ano baga?!?!?!?!

[hinDMaxsiado]

Ala eh mukhang nagsawa na siya eh... yayain na yan ng EB eh para magka-ayos na eh. Ala eh hwag naman na siyang lilitaw ulit eh. Kakaktawa na siya pag lumitaw pa eh.

[SIZE=4]AY ISU....
Ala eh, kadami niyong Navara boys ire sir, at kayo pong lahat gane hindi mapalagay, hanggang sa kayo-kayo nalang nag-bobolahan dine [/SIZE]

[SIZE=4]Ayos ba sir, o ayos nala-ang?[/SIZE]

....Sinabi na nga may data na mali coz i personally drives a matic the figures doesnt match with my actual experience but for the manual since i drive the manual unit occasionally the data hits the target. Im surprised sa manual nagkaroon ng maling data based sa brochure. With this i have to agree with vinj, spec sheets are for guidance and the best is to test drive the units. I have a feeling the differential data for the manual and matic was mistakening switch but we will never know unless someone would be nice enough to dismantle it to check the gearing to get the correct figures....

[SIZE=4]Sir AKI, uulitin ko lang po ah.... Kitang-kita po diyan na 3.692 ang final-gear ng Navara manual-transmission at hindi po 3.538 [/size]

[SIZE=3]Mabuti nga sir AKI125 nag-present po kayo ng estimates niyo,[/SIZE] lalo na you highlighted that the differential-gear ratio for the manual-tranny and auto-tranny Navara is just the same as 3.538, PARA MAGKA-ALAMAN NG TOTOO BASE SA SPECS NG NISSAN NAVARA.... Wala naman po sanang magagalit o mapipikon na Navara boy(s) dito dahil parte lang ito ng diskusyon....

The final-gear or differential gear ratio of the Navara’s auto and manual-trannies is NOT the same. Look at the picture of the official specs file of the 6-speed manual-tranny vs. the auto-tranny below. It is [SIZE=3]3.692[/SIZE] for the manual-tranny and NOT 3.538, as clearly stated (and highlighted) in the spec sheet, sir…. The 3.538 is ONLY for the auto-tranny....




You may verify the attached photo here sir: http://www.nissan.co.nz/pdf/specs/specs_navarastx.pdf


In the manual-tranny sir, it is clear also that when you change the officially-specified 3.692 final-gear ratio in the once presented before to 3.538 there will be an increase in the speed of the Navara that makes the Navara guys here obviously happy about it, even when it’s NOT actually the real case.

At 1750 rpm on the 6-speed manual-tranny Navara, it is ONLY speeding [SIZE=3]82.00 kph[/SIZE] and NOT 86.06 kph.... You even used 1.609 km (up to the 3rd-decimal point), instead of just rounding it off to 1.6 km is to 1.0 mile. Nothing wrong with it anyway sir....





Further on, at 3800 rpm, it is ONLY speeding [SIZE=3]178.00 kph[/SIZE] and NOT 186.88 kph, sir....

....And so on and so forth....


[SIZE=3]The Navara boys here "might" NOT like to hear the real truth, nor even look closely to the official spec-sheet provided by Nissan Motors....[/SIZE] Anything that pertains na babagal ang Navara, even when it's the company's official specification, simply isn't acceptable for them....

[Ifugi_Navi]

A-nye-nye. a-che-che. ayun pa rin oh. waaahhhh

[Navman101]

karera na lang with full load para magkaalaman na.

puro spec sheet wala naman ibubuga yang truck nyan kundi itim na usok.

panay computation at spec sheets pero iwan pa din sa truck nya sa Navara.

[hinDMaxsiado]

karera na lang with full load para magkaalaman na

puro spec sheet wala naman ibubuga yang truck nyan kundi itim na usok

panay computation at spec sheets pero iwan pa din sa truck nya sa Navara

[SIZE=4]
Hahahaha!!!! Sir Nav naman, puede naman po kayong kumarera diyan hanggang gusto niyo sir kahit kanino, wala naman po nagbabawal at pumipigil sa inyo by all means sir....
....Kung bilis din lang hanap ko sir sa isang sasakyan, eh di nag-Santa Fe R eVGT na ko o di kaya Ferrari kaso wala ako pambili ng Ferrari eh hehehehe

Gaya na rin po ng sinabi ko sa mga kasangga ninyo.... [/SIZE]

Ala eh mukhang nagsawa na siya eh... yayain na yan ng EB eh para magka-ayos na eh. Ala eh hwag naman na siyang lilitaw ulit eh. Kakaktawa na siya pag lumitaw pa eh.

[SIZE=4]AY ISU....
Ala eh, kadami niyong Navara boys ire sir, at kayo pong lahat gane hindi mapalagay, hanggang sa kayo-kayo nalang nag-bobolahan dine [/SIZE]

[SIZE=4]Ayos ba sir, o ayos nala-ang?[/SIZE]

....Sinabi na nga may data na mali coz i personally drives a matic the figures doesnt match with my actual experience but for the manual since i drive the manual unit occasionally the data hits the target. Im surprised sa manual nagkaroon ng maling data based sa brochure. With this i have to agree with vinj, spec sheets are for guidance and the best is to test drive the units. I have a feeling the differential data for the manual and matic was mistakening switch but we will never know unless someone would be nice enough to dismantle it to check the gearing to get the correct figures....

[SIZE=4]Sir AKI, uulitin ko lang po ah.... Kitang-kita po diyan na 3.692 ang final-gear ng Navara manual-transmission at hindi po 3.538 [/size]

[SIZE=3]Mabuti nga sir AKI125 nag-present po kayo ng estimates niyo,[/SIZE] lalo na you highlighted that the differential-gear ratio for the manual-tranny and auto-tranny Navara is just the same as 3.538, PARA MAGKA-ALAMAN NG TOTOO BASE SA SPECS NG NISSAN NAVARA.... Wala naman po sanang magagalit o mapipikon na Navara boy(s) dito dahil parte lang ito ng diskusyon....

The final-gear or differential gear ratio of the Navara’s auto and manual-trannies is NOT the same. Look at the picture of the official specs file of the 6-speed manual-tranny vs. the auto-tranny below. It is [SIZE=3]3.692[/SIZE] for the manual-tranny and NOT 3.538, as clearly stated (and highlighted) in the spec sheet, sir…. The 3.538 is ONLY for the auto-tranny....




You may verify the attached photo here sir: http://www.nissan.co.nz/pdf/specs/specs_navarastx.pdf


In the manual-tranny sir, it is clear also that when you change the officially-specified 3.692 final-gear ratio in the once presented before to 3.538 there will be an increase in the speed of the Navara that makes the Navara guys here obviously happy about it, even when it’s NOT actually the real case.

At 1750 rpm on the 6-speed manual-tranny Navara, it is ONLY speeding [SIZE=3]82.00 kph[/SIZE] and NOT 86.06 kph.... You even used 1.609 km (up to the 3rd-decimal point), instead of just rounding it off to 1.6 km is to 1.0 mile. Nothing wrong with it anyway sir....





Further on, at 3800 rpm, it is ONLY speeding [SIZE=3]178.00 kph[/SIZE] and NOT 186.88 kph, sir....

....And so on and so forth....


[SIZE=3]The Navara boys here "might" NOT like to hear the real truth, nor even look closely to the official spec-sheet provided by Nissan Motors....[/SIZE] Anything that pertains na babagal ang Navara, even when it's the company's official specification, simply isn't acceptable for them....

[jess25strada]

anu kaba wag mona hamunin karera yan at wala naman truck na ikakarera yan ahente ng Isuzu na yan

madami ako kilala ahente pero di naman sila ganyan kadisperado para lang makabenta





Engine name: 3.0 V6 dCi (V9X)
Layout: V6 / 65°
Number of cylinders/valves: 6/24
Air intake system: Turbo Intercooler
Injection type: Diesel direct injection, 1800 bar double common rail, 7 hole Piezo injectors
Balance shaft : no
Crankcase/cylinder head material: Cast Iron/Aluminium
Cylinder block material: Compacted Graphite Iron (CGI)
Displacement: 2991cm3
Bore X stroke: 84mm X 90mm
Compression ratio: 16:1
Camshaft Drive: Single stage chain
Emission control system: EGR + Catalyst
Maximum power: 170kw/3750rpm (235ch)
Maximum torque: 550nm/1750rpm, 500Nm available from 1500rpm
7-speed A/T Tiptronic
0-100km/h: 9”30
3000kg towing capacity