nissan navara brute or isuzu dmax lt 4x4

[david_anthony]

what could be a better workhorse between the two?

[cripple_rooster]

Both are good options. But since I already had some experiences with Nissan I would get the Navara instead of the D-Max.

[GTi]

For a workhorse vehicle, I'd suggest the D-Max LT for the best offroading capability, very broad torque plateau and therefore great low and midrange grunt, and also cheaper and more widely available parts.

[hinDMaxsiado]

what could be a better workhorse between the two?

Sir, yang DMax 4x4 LT, yan na ba yung "3.0 TD Intercooler" ang nakasulat as emblem ng pickup? Ang makina niyan sir ay ang 3.0-litre Ddi-iTEQ 4JJ1-TC Standard.
....Ito ba yung mas mababa, simple, magandang tignan at sadyang pang-harabas ang dating?

Basta Isuzu sir, pang-harabas ok yan. Ang prueba ko diyan sir ay tatlong Isuzu na sasakyan na both personally-owned and one being used as isa sa mga service vehicles namin sa exploration-mining works dito sa oversea job ko.

Ang lumang 4x2 DMax LS "3.0 TD Intercooler" namin ay nakaka-300,000 km na mahigit, malakas pa rin gaya ng dati (yung "Maroon" ang kulay sir).




Lagari ito Manila-Pangasinan-Manila dahil sa business nila misis. Maging gayun din sir ang Isuzu Crosswind ni misis na mahigit 300,000 km na din ang viaje at ito naman ay Manila-Laguna-Batangas-Manila ang viaje. Naka -assign sa isang sales agent na ngaun itong Crosswind at ubod daw ng tibay wika nga ng ahente.


Ito namang lumang 4x4 DMax LS "3.0 TD Intercooler" din namin na gamit dito sa overseas ay sadyang napaka-tibay. Ito ay arkila lamang at ng nakuha namin ito ang viaje nito ay 334,000 km na






Abuso sa amin ito sir ---- Karga ng mga sample drillcores na galing sa mga drilling rigs, baba minsan ng underground para magkarga ng mga channel sample cuts, araw-araw at tanging Linggo lang pahinga. Ni-isang sira sir wala kaming naranasan. Sa akyatan at kargahan napakalakas at walang hinihindihan na rough road kahit maputik. Maganda ang 4x4 ng DMax sir. Ngayon, nakaka-355,000 km na ito. Ang maintenance nito ay kada-5000 km at mine-maintain sa casa ng nagpapa-arkila.

Mag-Isuzu DMax ka sir at tiyak, ganito din sir mawi-witness mo basta conscious ka lang sa mga regular and preventive maintenance mo kada 5000 km.

Goodluck on your choices!

[rollyic]

why not include FORD wild trak?

[zap.FREEDOM]

Those trucks are both reliable and dependable, you have nothing to loose on your choice whichever you may pick, on my past evaluations here are my comments about the two trucks.

OVER-ALL They are both fuel-efficient and low-maintenance (but in over-all D-max is the easiest and cheap to maintain among other pick-up in the market 2nd is the Navarra.

SUSPENSION Navara has the 8 cross member ladder suspension that is unmatched to the other trucks chassis in the market if I'm not mistaken. On the other hand, D-Max shares a platform in several GM favorite mid-size trucks in the U.S. GM is one popular producers of long-lasting trucks in the U.S like the Chevy Colorado which has the same platform of D-max. So, D-max's suspension is also a big impact to consider.

PERFORMANCE Of course, Navara win in this, producing a 174 hp and 403N-m of torque (41kg-m) * 2000 rpm compare to D-max which can only whip a 161hp and 360 N-m of torque to be exactly (sorry, I forgot on what rpm). That's why navara is great for hauling bulk of cargos because of it's pulling power. Aside from pulling power it is also a high speed truck at highways (as usual having 6 speed trans is a great difference among the other vehicles). But don't worry about the d-max, I think it engine specs is enough to carry heavy cargos but with some quite difference compare on how Nav's run itself on inclines or straight paths with loads.

CON's of the two trucks. On D-Max I found it to be an "OVERPRICED" since it is only has a old-school diesel technology , on Navara, well common among CRDi equipped engine to be a picky in fuel and expensive spare parts if got broke common among CRDI diesel unlike the d-max kahit dun sa tingi-tingi or bote-bote lang, ok na and it easy to fix since it was produced by popular diesel engine maker, there are so many mechanics around knows how to overhaul Isuzu.( sa jeep pa lang e)

sir, it's up to you, better test drive both trucks to find out who can make you satisfy when it comes to power, comfort et al. My friend got a Navara on the other hand my aunt picked the D-max, iba-iba naman kasi ang taste ng buyers e, like you. baka mamaya meron kang hindi magustuhan dun sa isa, o kaya makulangan ka naman dun sa isa. It's up to you on how to rate those trucks by an actual test drive.

Have a nice day!

[GTi]

Those trucks are both reliable and dependable, you have nothing to loose on your choice whichever you may pick, on my past evaluations here are my comments about the two trucks.

OVER-ALL They are both fuel-efficient and low-maintenance (but in over-all D-max is the easiest and cheap to maintain among other pick-up in the market 2nd is the Navarra.

SUSPENSION Navara has the 8 cross member ladder suspension that is unmatched to the other trucks chassis in the market if I'm not mistaken. On the other hand, D-Max shares a platform in several GM favorite mid-size trucks in the U.S. GM is one popular producers of long-lasting trucks in the U.S like the Chevy Colorado which has the same platform of D-max. So, D-max's suspension is also a big impact to consider.

PERFORMANCE Of course, Navara win in this, producing a 174 hp and 403N-m of torque (41kg-m) * 2000 rpm compare to D-max which can only whip a 161hp and 360 N-m of torque to be exactly (sorry, I forgot on what rpm). That's why navara is great for hauling bulk of cargos because of it's pulling power. Aside from pulling power it is also a high speed truck at highways (as usual having 6 speed trans is a great difference among the other vehicles). But don't worry about the d-max, I think it engine specs is enough to carry heavy cargos but with some quite difference compare on how Nav's run itself on inclines or straight paths with loads.

CON's of the two trucks. On D-Max I found it to be an "OVERPRICED" since it is only has a old-school diesel technology , on Navara, well common among CRDi equipped engine to be a picky in fuel and expensive spare parts if got broke common among CRDI diesel unlike the d-max kahit dun sa tingi-tingi or bote-bote lang, ok na and it easy to fix since it was produced by popular diesel engine maker, there are so many mechanics around knows how to overhaul Isuzu.( sa jeep pa lang e)

sir, it's up to you, better test drive both trucks to find out who can make you satisfy when it comes to power, comfort et al. My friend got a Navara on the other hand my aunt picked the D-max, iba-iba naman kasi ang taste ng buyers e, like you. baka mamaya meron kang hindi magustuhan dun sa isa, o kaya makulangan ka naman dun sa isa. It's up to you on how to rate those trucks by an actual test drive.

Have a nice day!

Just to clarify, the local D-Max actually has only 146hp*3800rpm and 294Nm*1400-3400rpm (nakakapagtaka because the Alterra, having the same engine, is advertised as having 315Nm).

Although the figures may seem paltry as compared to the Navara, you must consider that the Navara's power is mostly concentrated at the high end of the rpm range and is rather weak on the low-end which would indicate great highway performance but inferior low end pulling power. And then again, the D-Max is no slouch, even with low performance figures, many owners have breached the 200km/h mark already.

[hinDMaxsiado]

For a workhorse vehicle, I'd suggest the D-Max LT for the best offroading capability, very broad torque plateau and therefore great low and midrange grunt, and also cheaper and more widely available parts.

Just to clarify, the local D-Max actually has only 146hp *3800rpm and 294 Nm *1400 rpm to 3400 rpm (nakakapagtaka because the Alterra, having the same engine, is advertised as having 315 Nm).

Although the figures may seem paltry as compared to the Navara, you must consider that the Navara's power is mostly concentrated ONLY at the high end of the rpm range (at 4000 rpm ONLY) and is rather WEAK on the low-end which would indicate great highway performance but INFERIOR low end pulling power. And then again, the D-Max is no slouch, even with low performance figures, many owners have breached the 200km/h mark already.

[SIZE=4] SADYANG NAPAKA-TALINO NIYO SIR! [/SIZE]

Sadyang mahina po talaga ang 2.5-litre Navara 4x4 MT sa kargahan at ahunan lalo na po at sub-2000 rpm, "nothing much really happens", wika nga po ng mga puting kasamahan namin....

Isa po ang Navara sa mga gamit namin sa Spain noong ako po ay nagtatrabaho sa isang open-pit at underground mine ---- May mga 3-litre Isuzu DMax iTEQ VGS Turbo din po kami doon (wala pa nito sa Pinas), 3-litre Toyota Hilux D4-D at 2.4-litre Hilux....
....Maganda lang pong tignan ang Navara sa sa papel HABANG hindi po ninyo nakikita ang TUNAY na torque curve nito. NGUNIT, sa okasyon na makikita mo na ang torque curve ng Navara, alam mo na kaagad ang kahihinatnan nito sa actual na kargahan at ahunan.... Tignan nalang po ninyo ang torque curve ng Navara habang pataas nang pataas ang engine rpm ang torque curve nito ay parang spaghetting pababa nang pababa....




Sa lahat ng pickup na na-drive namin ang Navara ang hirap sa ahunan magmula sa pinakababa ng underground levels hanggang sa tuktok ng open pit. Kinakain po ito ng mga Isuzu DMax at Toyota Hilux namin doon.... Kaya hindi po ako nag-dalawang isip na bumili pa rin ng isa pang DMax kahit hindi pa po ito ang VGS Turbo na DMax, na since 2007 pa po ay binebenta na sa Europa....

[GTi]

Siguro po ang hanap ni sir yung pinaka basic at no-nonsense na workhorse vehicle, which the Ranger does not have. At least in 4x4 TDCi form.

[zap.FREEDOM]

Siguro po ang hanap ni sir yung pinaka basic at no-nonsense na workhorse vehicle, which the Ranger does not have. At least in 4x4 TDCi form.

di kaya nakaka-offend ka sa mga Ford ranger owner esp. dun sa may mga wildtrak at trekker? kung sa bagay may point ka sir.GtTi, boring nga daw ang Ranger, parang pang-urban driving lang siya, it's like how the way you drive sedan para ganun lang din sa ford ranger....medyo bihira ang nag-ooffroad unlike strada and nav's. in short it's like a ford focus on atruck body. sedan pero truck...yung tipong ganun.

[Ry_Tower]

^ depende lang sa gumagamit. Ford dito sa amin eh pang-harabas din pero yung mga bushing at ibang pang-ilalim hindi kasing tibay ng Toyota hilux. Toyota at Isuzu pa din pinaka-matibay na pang-ilalim IMO. Followed by Strada.

Pero sa needs ni TS, Hilux isusuggest ko tapos Dmax bago Navarra. Pero yung navarra may lifting kit, 2nd option ko yun.

Pang-harabas eh tsaka madami kargahan.

[GTi]

di kaya nakaka-offend ka sa mga Ford ranger owner esp. dun sa may mga wildtrak at trekker? kung sa bagay may point ka sir.GtTi, boring nga daw ang Ranger, parang pang-urban driving lang siya, it's like how the way you drive sedan para ganun lang din sa ford ranger....medyo bihira ang nag-ooffroad unlike strada and nav's. in short it's like a ford focus on atruck body. sedan pero truck...yung tipong ganun.

No no no! Haha~ Hindi ako nag-ooffend ha! I am just noting that the TS is looking for a bare base model 4x4 workhorse vehicle. And it just so happened that the Ranger does not have such a variant. Their base model is only the 117hp turbo intercooler 4x2 variant and not the one with the 2.5TDCi or 3.0TDCi engine, nor does it come with a 4x4 system.

[jess25strada]

eto lang ba kayang ikarga ng dmax?



eto naman ang kayang ikarga ng NAVARA

[hinDMaxsiado]

eto lang ba kayang ikarga ng dmax?
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...JJ1and4JH1.jpg

eto naman ang kayang ikarga ng NAVARA
http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/...5513406115.jpg

Jess, sa bahay nakuha yang DMax na yan na hindi ko pa sinusundo mga kasama ko sa trails.... Intindihin mo lang sana pards, at alam mo naman na 3 motor ang kakasya sa carriage ng ano mang midsize pickup. Hindi na yan lingid sa kaalaman ng karamihan.... Kahit nga mga 1000cc lang na mga Suzuki CarryBoy na may long-bed kayang magkarga ng mas maraming motor.

Ngaun kung sa inaakala mo na Navara lang ang nagkakarga ng katiting na 3 bikes, kahit ano pa yan maging Nissan Pathfinder pa o ano pa man sinaluma diyan at bago na pickup kayang magkarga ng 3 bikes. Heto ang mga kasama ko noong sila'y nagtrail sa Quezon province.




Itong 3.0-litre Hilux na ito may naka-konekta pang trailer yan sa likod na bitbit 3 dirtbikes. Biaheng Sagada yang Hilux na yan. Ibang grupo naman sila ng dirtbikers na kilala din.



Ganito lang yan Jess ---- This is what all pickups are EXPECTED to do, it is not something extraordinary for them a task to carry 3 dirtbikes in their carriage and even pull along with them a trailer behind. Lahat ng mga pickups diyan kaya yan....

Ngayon din baka naman inaakala mo na hindi ako nakapag-manejo ng mga Navara.... Gaya nga ng sinabi ko sa unang pahina nitong thread, ang Navara 4x4 (tulad ng Navara natin sa Pinas), 3.0-litre Hilux 4x4 (tulad din ng Hilux natin sa Pinas) at 3.0-litre DMax VGS Turbo 4x4 (wala nito sa Pinas) ay yan ang mga dina-drive namin bilang mine service ng ako'y na-destino sa Espana noong 2008 hanggang early 2010.

Kaya nga sinasabi ko diyan na sadyang mahina ang Navara sa akyatan at kargahan LALO na kapag below 2000 rpm lang ang engine speed nito, dahil isa mga yan sa mismong ginagamit namin sa trabajo sa isang open-pit at underground mine project doon. Sa kargahan at sa gapang (below 2000 rpm), mas hamak na malalakas mga 3.0-litre diesels.




At maintindihan mo naman kung bakit.... Kasi nga halos walang torque o hatak ang Navara below 2000 rpm (tignan mo ang blue line, which is the torque curve sa graph na naka-post sa baba) ....At kapag nakuha na ng Navara ang peak nito sa 2000 rpm, BIGLANG baba na ito kahit gaano pa biritin ang silinyador nito para tumaas ang rpm ng makina.... Yan ang mga typical na pickup na mahihina sa hatakan, mahihina sa gapang na akyatan, at malalakas KUMAIN ng crudo kasi hindi nila mai-maintain ang peak torque nila sa mahabang rpm range. Ang peak torque ay nangangahulugan na yan ang range kung saan mismo effective at optimum magtrabaho ang makina in terms of power output and fuel consumption, kaya kapag mahaba ang peak flat torque ng isang makina, ibig sabihin nito maganda ang powerband nito.

Ang power ng Navara (whether in kW, pferdestarke or metric-hp, brake-horsepower) ay compensated lamang ng rpm nito at hindi dahil sa nai-me-maintain nito ang peak torque along the rev range. Ayan ang power and torque curve ng Navara against rpm. Kita mo na pababa ng pababa ang torque after 2000 rpm at halos walang torque below 2000 rpm.




Yang power and torque curves na yan ay yan mismo ang inilalabas ng Nissan tungkol sa Navara, at hindi produktu yan Jess ng gawa-gawa lamang, pare koy....

[niky]

I'd second this... I haven't driven the D-Max 3.0, but compared to the Ranger and Hilux 3.0s, the Navara's 2.5 really lacks low-down pulling torque.

The amount of power is unquestionable... the Navara has good fuel economy, awesome acceleration and great highway performance, and there's enough power for off-roading... but for more difficult climbs where engine flexibility and crawling are needed, and for heavy cargo carrying, the 3 liters in the competition are superior, simply because they have better torque characteristics and turbo spool up.

[Ry_Tower]

I'd second this... I haven't driven the D-Max 3.0, but compared to the Ranger and Hilux 3.0s, the Navara's 2.5 really lacks low-down pulling torque.

The amount of power is unquestionable... the Navara has good fuel economy, awesome acceleration and great highway performance, and there's enough power for off-roading... but for more difficult climbs where engine flexibility and crawling are needed, and for heavy cargo carrying, the 3 liters in the competition are superior, simply because they have better torque characteristics and turbo spool up.

That is why for pure hauling, I'd pick the Ranger and the Hilux among current pick-ups. Slightly favored ako sa Toyota because of personal experience.

[OJ213]

Jess, sa bahay nakuha yang DMax na yan na hindi ko pa sinusundo mga kasama ko sa trails.... Intindihin mo lang sana pards, at alam mo naman na 3 motor ang kakasya sa carriage ng ano mang midsize pickup. Hindi na yan lingid sa kaalaman ng karamihan.... Kahit nga mga 1000cc lang na mga Suzuki CarryBoy na may long-bed kayang magkarga ng mas maraming motor.

Ngaun kung sa inaakala mo na Navara lang ang nagkakarga ng katiting na 3 bikes, kahit ano pa yan maging Nissan Pathfinder pa o ano pa man sinaluma diyan at bago na pickup kayang magkarga ng 3 bikes. Heto ang mga kasama ko noong sila'y nagtrail sa Quezon province.
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Itong 3.0-litre Hilux na ito may naka-konekta pang trailer yan sa likod na bitbit 3 dirtbikes. Biaheng Sagada yang Hilux na yan. Ibang grupo naman sila ng dirtbikers na kilala din.



Ganito lang yan Jess ---- This is what all pickups are EXPECTED to do, it is not something extraordinary for them a task to carry 3 dirtbikes in their carriage and even pull along with them a trailer behind. Lahat ng mga pickups diyan kaya yan....

Ngayon din baka naman inaakala mo na hindi ako nakapag-manejo ng mga Navara.... Gaya nga ng sinabi ko sa unang pahina nitong thread, ang Navara 4x4 (tulad ng Navara natin sa Pinas), 3.0-litre Hilux 4x4 (tulad din ng Hilux natin sa Pinas) at 3.0-litre DMax VGS Turbo 4x4 (wala nito sa Pinas) ay yan ang mga dina-drive namin bilang mine service ng ako'y na-destino sa Espana noong 2008 hanggang early 2010.

Kaya nga sinasabi ko diyan na sadyang mahina ang Navara sa akyatan at kargahan LALO na kapag below 2000 rpm lang ang engine speed nito, dahil isa mga yan sa mismong ginagamit namin sa trabajo sa isang open-pit at underground mine project doon. Sa kargahan at sa gapang (below 2000 rpm), mas hamak na malalakas mga 3.0-litre diesels.




At maintindihan mo naman kung bakit.... Kasi nga halos walang torque o hatak ang Navara below 2000 rpm (tignan mo ang blue line, which is the torque curve sa graph na naka-post sa baba) ....At kapag nakuha na ng Navara ang peak nito sa 2000 rpm, BIGLANG baba na ito kahit gaano pa biritin ang silinyador nito para tumaas ang rpm ng makina.... Yan ang mga typical na pickup na mahihina sa hatakan, mahihina sa gapang na akyatan, at malalakas KUMAIN ng crudo kasi hindi nila mai-maintain ang peak torque nila sa mahabang rpm range. Ang peak torque ay nangangahulugan na yan ang range kung saan mismo effective at optimum magtrabaho ang makina in terms of power output and fuel consumption, kaya kapag mahaba ang peak flat torque ng isang makina, ibig sabihin nito maganda ang powerband nito.

Ang power ng Navara (whether in kW, pferdestarke or metric-hp, brake-horsepower) ay compensated lamang ng rpm nito at hindi dahil sa nai-me-maintain nito ang peak torque along the rev range. Ayan ang power and torque curve ng Navara against rpm. Kita mo na pababa ng pababa ang torque after 2000 rpm at halos walang torque below 2000 rpm.




Yang power and torque curves na yan ay yan mismo ang inilalabas ng Nissan tungkol sa Navara, at hindi produktu yan Jess ng gawa-gawa lamang, pare koy....

well explained sir !! ganyan din ang nabasa ko sa isang site parehong pareho kayo ng sinabi, all english nga lang yun,
so sa mining ka pala nagtatrabaho, just want to ask you what variant of the DMAX do you own sir? I happen to know jess personally and meron siya nung 3 pick up na sinasabi mo sa report mo, and off all people who will compare these 3 mas maniniwala siguro ako doon sa merong ganoong sasakyan at hindi dun sa ginagamit lang as service. yung mga charts na pinapakita mo are based on standard specs and not the actual charts na makukuha mo kung ikaw mismo magdadala sa dyno test ng unit mo, you can give all the figures on the net , but i assure you hindi ganyan ang makukuhang result mo sa actual

[hinDMaxsiado]

well explained sir !! ganyan din ang nabasa ko sa isang site parehong pareho kayo ng sinabi, all english nga lang yun, so sa mining ka pala nagtatrabaho, just want to ask you what variant of the DMAX do you own sir? I happen to know jess personally and meron siya nung 3 pick up na sinasabi mo sa report mo, and off all people who will compare these 3 mas maniniwala siguro ako doon sa merong ganoong sasakyan at hindi dun sa ginagamit lang as service. yung mga charts na pinapakita mo are based on standard specs and not the actual charts na makukuha mo kung ikaw mismo magdadala sa dyno test ng unit mo, you can give all the figures on the net, but i assure you hindi ganyan ang makukuhang result mo sa actual

Sir, sa kabilang site ba sa Top Gear Phils. o sa Motorcycle Philippines.... Malimit akong mag-English doon at mag-Tagalog din ....Baka lang sir akalain mo na kinuha ko kay "dtkiko" mga sinusulat ko dito, ako din po siya sir eh....

As explained sir:

1. Hindi po lingid sa kaalaman ng karamihan na kayang mag-karga ng 3 motorsiklo ang mga pickups na available sa Pinas. Pangkaraniwan lang po yan at hindi extraordinary po. In fact, mga Suzuki Carry Boy na mahaba po ang carriage ay nakakalulan din ng mas maraming motorsiklo;

2. Yang chart po na yan ay official na nanggaling sa Nissan Philippines, at hindi gawa-gawa lamang.... Para malaman niyo po sir, pumunta po kayo sa Nissan at humingi ng specs na kita ang power and torque curve ng Navara. Yang power and torque curve na yan ang mismong makikita mo sir....

Pababa ng pababa ang torque curve ng Navara after a single-and-very narrow peak spot at 2000 rpm kahit diinan pa ng todo silinyador nito



Nasa sa iyo naman yan sir na paniwalaan mo si Sir Jess bilang kilala at kaibigan niyo po.... OF COURSE YOU HAVE ALL THE RIGHT TO DO IT SO.... NOBODY is taking that away from you....

Basta ang 15 years na experience ko sir sa pagmamanejo ng ibat-ibang pickups simula pa noong 2.8-litre palang ang Toyota Hilux at ang Isuzu Fuego, dahil nga sa trabajo ko sa mineral exploration at mining sa Pinas at sa labas ng bansa, ang aking tanging basehan sa bawat na maisipan kong gumastos ng sarili kong ipon....
....Kaya mga pickups na binili ko simula pa noong 2004 ay puros 3.0-litre diesels dahil hindi naman bilis lang ang tinitignan ko sa isang pickup. Kung bibili man ako ulit or mag-trade in, hihintayin ko na ang pagdating ng 3.0-litre DMax VGS Turbo dito sa Pinas dahil ito ang tanging pickup na sadyang gusto ko ang performance, o di kaya naman, next year kung andito na ang 3.2-litre 5-cylinder Ford Ranger TDCi.

Kung dadalhin mo sir yang Navara sa chassis dynamometer at gusto mo mag-conduct ng test, by all means you may do it so for the Navara kahit saan, kahit pa sa Speedlab Racing, Quezon Ave.... i-verify mo sir ang chassis-dyno value ng wheel horsepower ng Navara by all means. Basta sir UNPLUG mo lang lahat ng mga MODS sa makina ng Navara, kung meron man, bago magpa-actual chassis-dyno for the stock-trim reading.

Walang chassis-dyno results so far na naka-post sa Speedlab Racing website tungkol sa local Isuzu DMax at Nissan Navara, ngunit meron sa 3.2-litre Strada Di-D at sa 3.0-litre Hilux D4-D.

Heto ang 3.0-litre Hilux D4-D.... Marahil nakasulat sa website ng Toyota na 343 Nm from 1400 rpm to 3200 rpm ang Hilux. Ngunit sa chassis-dyno, ang stock Hilux ay umaabot ng 382.9 Nm at 2500 rpm kahit bago pa man magkaroon ng Unichip diesel EFi-tuning kit ito. nang nasalpakan ng Unichip, umabot ang torque nito hanggang 454.7 Nm at 2500 rpm.

http://www.speedlab.com.ph/products/unichip/hilux.jpg

Heto naman ang 3.2-litre Strada Di-D.... Sobrang baba naman ang sa Strada na ang resulta nito ay 313 Nm lang at 3000 rpm kumpara sa nakasulat sa official specs ng Mitsubishi na ito ay 343 Nm at 2000 rpm (malamang ito ay sa engine dyno nakuha at hindi net horsepower ito na kinukuha after the transmission set-up to the wheels ---- hindi ko rin alam sir). But as far as the chassis dyno results shows as rear wheel power and torque, this is the real world scenario ----- stock torque ng Strada ay 231.1 lb-ft, which is equal to 312.9 Nm at 3000 rpm.

http://www.speedlab.com.ph/products/unichip/strada.jpg


Si Mr. Ferman Lao (president ng CAGI, co-owner ng Speedlab Racing at isang columnista sa Top Gear Phils.) ang isa sa mismong nagda-dyno ng mga sasakyan LALO na kung ito ay pinapa-optimise ang tuning at lalagyan ng Unichip, alcohol-injection etc....

[zap.FREEDOM]

I think, both pick-ups are great, good choice naman parehas, so let the TS decide, nasa bibili naman yan e, saka bat nga ba sinasabi nila na UNDERPOWERED daw ang d-max, hindi naman siguro yung Isuzu IPV 2.5 nga ata yun, ok naman manakbo kahut full loads of passenger.

[AKI125]

Sir both trucks of your choice are excellent for hauling. Depends na talaga sa preference mo kung ano mas appealing sa taste mo. During the time i was looking for a truck for myself, nitest drive ko lahat na brand. I suggest itest drive mo rin bawat isa and decide afterwards. Brute only comes with 144ps and 350nm tge same with the 4x2 navaras. Eventhough 4x4 siya pero engine niya is the mid level lang and not the high katulad ng 4x4 talaga. Kung sa tignin mo plain looking yun brute try asking your SA about the dressed up brutes. Yun una parang hindi pleasing sa mata ko with all the graphics pero kug nasa road na like what i saw 2 days ago, maganda pala siya. Type ko rin yun proma ng dmax, hindi ko lang nagustohan is yun ride niya... Too bumpy for me.

Dmax stands is great for 4x4 with shorter dimension ok talaga siya kung gagamitin mo siya for offroad purposes. Navara naman refined version more onroad siya to compare both said vehicles.

For hauling, since navara comes with a wider body masmarami ka malalaman compared sa dmax. Only disadvantage with the brute since this model share the same rear suspension design sa 4x4 max load niya sa rear is only 800kgs unlike sa 4x2 na max load is 1 ton. I dont any figure with regards sa dmax po.