Nissan Kicks VE or Honda HR-V S

[xwangbu]

May price na ba nilabas Nissan PH na 300k php ang replacement? Battery pa lang, or labor and materials na?

Sa 2x a year na 10k kms or 6 mos, oil change talaga sa manual nung binasa ko. Yung 7500kms/6mos is pag "Extreme" conditions lang.

Iridium plugs replacement is every 18 months din per the booklet.

Me recent video si JeepDoctor sa YT. During the test drive sinabi nung tiga-Nissan yung price.

https://youtu.be/ur_aBs1DF9c

Skip to 11:30.

[17Sphynx17]

Me recent video si JeepDoctor sa YT. During the test drive sinabi nung tiga-Nissan yung price.

https://youtu.be/ur_aBs1DF9c

Skip to 11:30.

Thanks for this.

At least meron na idea sa price ngayon. So using the 300k php price to replace battery.

Assuming non Hybrid city driving fuel consumption of 7km/l or 9km/l. And for Kicks, city driving of 14km/l or 18km/l. Annual kms traveled either 10k kms or 20k kms.

on a 5 year period.

If total distance traveled at 50,000kms (average 10000kms per year)

For 7km/l = 7,142.86 Liters x 70php per liter = 500,000.20php (ICE only FC assumption city driving)
For 9km/l = 5,555.56 Liters x 70php per liter = 388,889.20 php (ICE only FC assumption city driving)

For 14km/l = 3,571.43 Liters x 70php per liter = 250,000.10php (Kicks worst case city FC - current assumption based on digital tripmeter of my friend's Kicks at 12kph average speed)
For 16km/l = 3,125.00 Liters x 70php per liter = 218,750.00php (Kicks current "best" case city FC - current assumption based on digital tripmeter of my friend's Kicks at 14kph average speed)

With the above, savings "could be" as low as 138,889.10php to a "high" (estimate) of 281,250php.

If total distance traveled at 100,000kms (average of 20000kms per year would mean 5 years reach this mileage, or 10 years at 10,000kms)

For 7km/l = 14,285.71liters x 70php per liter = 1,000,000php (ICE only FC Assumption city driving)
For 9km/l = 11,111.11liters x 70php per liter = 777,777.78php (ICE only FC assumption city driving)

For 14km/l = 7,142.86liters x 70php per liter = 500,000php (Kicks worst case city FC - current assumption based on digital tripmeter of my friend's Kicks at 12kph average speed)
For 16km/l = 6,250.00liters x 70php per liter = 437,500php (Kicks current "best" case city FC - current assumption based on digital tripmeter of my friend's Kicks at 14kph average speed)

With the above, savings "could be" as low as 277,777,78php to a "high" (estimate) of 562,500php.

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Trying to limit total kms to 50,000kms and 100,000kms. Be it 5 year or 10 year total usage for guidance of estimates.

Even in the worst case after 100,000kms, cost to replace batteries are almost recovered upfront (assuming it lasts a minimum of 100,000kms before it starts to have issues)
At best case, after 100,000kms, cost to replace battery is covered plus fuel savings still "saved" enough to cover the replacement, and even some PMS expenses for the Kicks.

This is of course on the assumption you are planning to replace a current vehicle that you have some concrete figures of how much you drive per year, and the average FC you get on city driving conditions for your vehicle.

So, as an exploratory food for thought. The limitation also applies to the price per liter of 70php per liter, be it diesel or gasoline.

[carxynogen]

Me recent video si JeepDoctor sa YT. During the test drive sinabi nung tiga-Nissan yung price.

https://youtu.be/ur_aBs1DF9c

Skip to 11:30.

So para ka na ring nag replace ng buong CVT transmission module if that is the price of battery (300k).
I assume after 10 yrs ang need talaga na mag replace ng battery.
Eto yung deal breaker eh, after that time, much better to buy a new vehicle nalang.
Sana meron silang program to help buyer save more by trading their old battery to new one.

Hirap i benta yan sa second hand market if the cost ng battery alone without labor is 300k.

[dr. d]

So para ka na ring nag replace ng buong CVT transmission module if that is the price of battery (300k).
I assume after 10 yrs ang need talaga na mag replace ng battery.
Eto yung deal breaker eh, after that time, much better to buy a new vehicle nalang.
Sana meron silang program to help buyer save more by trading their old battery to new one.

Hirap i benta yan sa second hand market if the cost ng battery alone without labor is 300k.

what about,
yung buong kotse ang trade-in program.

tapos,
fix up the entire car, then re-sell it at the re-manufactured car program.

[carxynogen]

Also naisip ko lang, parang may problem system ng e-power.
One of the factors that will speed up degradation of the battery is the frequent charging.
In case of e-power, parang nangyari is frequent charging ginagawa while driving.
If ganito scenario, I think every year, malaki degradation ng efficiency ng battery.

Compare mo sa pure EV/hybrid, every night lang kasi charging nila.
But e-power is nagchacharge while on driving.

Pero may efficient method din daw on how to prolong battery life by always not exceeding the charge to above 80%.
Not sure if eto ginawa ng e-power engine at gaano ka effective tong method na to to prolong battery's life.

Still eto malaki risk ng e-power, tatagal ba ang battery and how long ang itatagal with the frequent charging na nangyayari sa system?

[Stigg ma]

So para ka na ring nag replace ng buong CVT transmission module if that is the price of battery (300k).
I assume after 10 yrs ang need talaga na mag replace ng battery.
Eto yung deal breaker eh, after that time, much better to buy a new vehicle nalang.
Sana meron silang program to help buyer save more by trading their old battery to new one.

Hirap i benta yan sa second hand market if the cost ng battery alone without labor is 300k.

after 10 years kaya eh same battery tech pa din meron tayo, malamang hindi na 300k ang price ng battery dahil sa inflation... at yung value ng sasakyan after 10 years eh 1,209,000 - 10% each year sa depreciation... parang ka presyo ng batt yung depreciated value ng sasakyan