Hyundai Accent MT vs Ford Fiesta Hatch MT

[carljenar]

Hello everyone. I'm a newbie here in tsikot. I just want to ask the MT accent owners here. My father has already 4 cars.. We have a chevy optra (2004), ford ranger trekker (2009), toyota innova (2008) and a toyota fortuner that just bought last march 2011. I always use our optra and ranger when I was in college.. Now I'm already graduated in college and I'm currently having my Flying Training as a Pilot. Since my little brother and my little sister are now in college, they also uses my father car in their school. So my father ask me to choose a simple car that i want and he will buy it for me. Since I want MT, I narrowed my choices down to fiesta hatch mt and accent mt. This will be my own car so I find it really hard to decide on what to purchase. So I test drove both of that car, and I like the feeling when driving the fiesta but I really want the space of the accent compare to fiesta and I like the looks of accent. So we already have our reservation at hyundai balintawak for a black accent and I can get my unit before this month ends. Do you think I made the right choice? Accent MT owners, have you ever experienced problem with your accent? How's the fuel consumption? Because I'm thinking if I made the right choice, I just want the looks of the accent because I think it fits me. I will use this car as everyday ride. But I can still change my purchase. Thank you!

[mda]

Accent has engine knocking issues with the lowest octane unleaded fuel. Dapat yung mid-grade o high end yung ikarga.

Not an economical choice at the moment habang hindi pa inaayos.

Kung ganun fiesta nalang.

[carljenar]

ganun ba? pero kung XCS or premium ipapagas ko lagi okay naman siguro ang accent?

[niky]

It seems to vary. If you use Shell Unleaded, you are likely fine (my CR-V idles rougher on XTRA and Caltex Silver than Shell Unleaded).

The Fiesta drives better, but the Accent has more space and better plastics. Best bet is to test drive both before making a decision.

The Fiesta 1.4 Hatch is, I believe, the best of the bunch.

Also look at the new Kia Rio hatchback. It should be economical, but we won't know till we test it.

Mazda's 1.3 hatch is more economical than the Fiesta and Accent 1.4s, but it's kind of bare of amenities. It's fun to drive, and it feels extremely light on its feet.

The Swift 1.4 is niiiiiiice. But pricey compared to the rest of these cars.

[carljenar]

* sir niky
natest drive ko na pareho. The fiesta has better handling. Ung accent okay din naman. Pero tingin ko kasi I need the space of the accent para pag may mga need ikarga sa kotse.
The rio looks good pero nag woworry ako sa kia kung matibay ba.
I don't like the back of mazda 2 and ung swift masikip padin ung back seat.

[weisshorn]

* sir niky
natest drive ko na pareho. The fiesta has better handling. Ung accent okay din naman. Pero tingin ko kasi I need the space of the accent para pag may mga need ikarga sa kotse.
The rio looks good pero nag woworry ako sa kia kung matibay ba.
I don't like the back of mazda 2 and ung swift masikip padin ung back seat.

If space is most important to you then accent 1.4L MT it is. I think new batches of 1.4 MT Accent is not as buggy as the earlier shipment. Just my opinion.

[carljenar]

If space is most important to you then accent 1.4L MT it is. I think new batches of 1.4 MT Accent is not as buggy as the earlier shipment. Just my opinion.

ung makukuha namin na accent e yung padating na units ngayong 2nd week ng feb. wala kasi sila stock ng phantom black ngayon kaya wait namin ung padating na new stock.

[valskie01]

* sir niky
natest drive ko na pareho. The fiesta has better handling. Ung accent okay din naman. Pero tingin ko kasi I need the space of the accent para pag may mga need ikarga sa kotse.
The rio looks good pero nag woworry ako sa kia kung matibay ba.
I don't like the back of mazda 2 and ung swift masikip padin ung back seat.

kia and hyundai shares same component kaya quality same lang din.

[niky]

kia and hyundai shares same component kaya quality same lang din.

^ This. Basically, the only reason to take one over the other is dealership support... which will still depend more upon the dealership itself than the brand.

If space is a consideration, the Honda Jazz is always a good answer, but prices are high and they aren't giving out discounts. Thanks to the Thailand floods, supplies are almost non-existent, and because of the pent-up demand, they're even charging a premium for the few units there are out there.

[carljenar]

^ This. Basically, the only reason to take one over the other is dealership support... which will still depend more upon the dealership itself than the brand.

If space is a consideration, the Honda Jazz is always a good answer, but prices are high and they aren't giving out discounts. Thanks to the Thailand floods, supplies are almost non-existent, and because of the pent-up demand, they're even charging a premium for the few units there are out there.

ang hyundai cars ba damay sa thailand floods?

[yapoy86]

made in korea pa yan

kung ako.. mas ok ford fiesta hatch.. maganda ang hatch talaga timeless ang design

[mda]

made in korea pa yan

kung ako.. mas ok ford fiesta hatch.. maganda ang hatch talaga timeless ang design

Nothing wrong with made in korea.

Tingin mo yung Samsung, inferior product?

I'm still for the Fiesta though, just because the Accent still has the unresolved engine knock issue.

Medyo hindi sulit kasi ang economy car kapag napipilitan gumamit ng high octane gas. Camry nga namin masaya sa regular unleaded

[ram_dlsu]

It might be a little too late to change your decision since the Accent is on its way. But I think the Fiesta wins this comparo. Though, you said you needed space so I guess that's where the Accent answers unless you go for a Fiesta Sedan. Feedback regarding the 1.4MT Fiesta have been very good and have lesser issues than the 1.6 Powershift which kinda stays a bit too long in the 1st gear before shifting to 2nd. I do hope tho that the Knocking Engine thing won't happen to you're unit bro. I'm sure you're pretty excited dude!

[imperialv]

hindi pa na solve yung knocking issue ng accent, kasi sa mga bagong unit?

[carljenar]

It might be a little too late to change your decision since the Accent is on its way. But I think the Fiesta wins this comparo. Though, you said you needed space so I guess that's where the Accent answers unless you go for a Fiesta Sedan. Feedback regarding the 1.4MT Fiesta have been very good and have lesser issues than the 1.6 Powershift which kinda stays a bit too long in the 1st gear before shifting to 2nd. I do hope tho that the Knocking Engine thing won't happen to you're unit bro. I'm sure you're pretty excited dude!

yes sir i really want the space of the accent and it's look. i don't like the looks of the fiesta sedan. How can i know if the engine knocking happen to my unit sir? Do you think I can avoid it by using Shell V-power or Petron XCS? I'm really excited to get my unit but I hope that it has no engine problem.

[yapoy86]

*mda
hindi ko sinabi na may pangit yung made in korea...mas ok nga yung accent kasi made in korea unlike nung mga japanese cars ngayon na puro thailand made...

hindi ko pa nadidinig yan engine knock ng accent pero ayon dun sa knocking thread nyan.. yung mga OC lang ang nakakadinig nyan.. wala naman data na nagpapakita na may confirmed knock nga yung engine.. puro tenga data lang

[mda]

*mda
yung mga OC lang ang nakakadinig nyan.. wala naman data na nagpapakita na may confirmed knock nga yung engine.. puro tenga data lang

Granted, the issue may be more overblown than it really is - I don't want to risk it kasi when I'm spending my own money.

My thinking:

If it has the techs in the Casa going around and replacing ECUs and doing reflashes, then I suppose there is a confirmed knock. Wala lang official announcement.

Nakarinig ka na ba ng Casa na nagpapalit ng gamit for no true reason? Sa Casa pa of all places.

[yapoy86]

sa tingin ko may mali sila sa pag reflash ng units which in turn na damage or na corrupt yung programming ng ECU.. kaya nag papalit sila ng ECU na may program na...

sa kia carens noon may lumabas din na update ng ECU for improvement ng EGR response... so ako naman excited nag pa update...

nung ina update na ayaw mag 100% complete yung reflash.. muntik na ako hindi makauwi kasi hindi na aadar yung makina kasi nabura na yung original program.. ilang beses din nag retry.. until nag success.. na kita ko yung problem kung bakit ayaw mag tuloy.. guess what?? loose USB connection!! kasi yung mga technician ang lilikot habang nag update kaya yung cable nagalaw at nag loose.. kaya sabi ko sa kanila wag muna mag likot at stay still yung mga cables.. ayun nag 100% na..

[carljenar]

*mda.. sir lam nyo ba pano maiwasan engine knock? what if premium lagi ko ipagas?

[mda]

sa tingin ko may mali sila sa pag reflash ng units which in turn na damage or na corrupt yung programming ng ECU.. kaya nag papalit sila ng ECU na may program na...

sa kia carens noon may lumabas din na update ng ECU for improvement ng EGR response... so ako naman excited nag pa update...

nung ina update na ayaw mag 100% complete yung reflash.. muntik na ako hindi makauwi kasi hindi na aadar yung makina kasi nabura na yung original program.. ilang beses din nag retry.. until nag success.. na kita ko yung problem kung bakit ayaw mag tuloy.. guess what?? loose USB connection!! kasi yung mga technician ang lilikot habang nag update kaya yung cable nagalaw at nag loose.. kaya sabi ko sa kanila wag muna mag likot at stay still yung mga cables.. ayun nag 100% na..

If they are indeed bricking their own ECUs, I'd think HARI would be quick to stop any reflash procedure. Does not make sense from a business standpoint. Nalulugi sila ng mag-isa.

More logical is the assumption that they are indeed getting new programming/ECU firmware but this fails to resolve the issue, rather than them stupidly bricking ECUs and replacing them with new ones.

Also, to support my statement, I do believe that the new ECUs were offered to people with low power/knocking units, not those na na-brick yung ECU via reflash. Meaning hindi pa sira yung ECU at the time na ni-"go" yung replacement.

*mda.. sir lam nyo ba pano maiwasan engine knock? what if premium lagi ko ipagas?

Can't guarantee even if you use premium. Ask sir bratski dun sa engine knock thread. Siya yung may Accent, not me.