NEED SUGGESTIONS APV or AVANZA??

[tonash27]

Hello,

I am planning to buy a car -> Family car... but my budget is tight...
APV and AVANZA are cheap giving you 8 seater for APV and 7 seater for avanza.

Please give me suggestions which is better the big car APV or the fuel efficient AVANZA? Cons and Pros please also...

And do you have more suggestions that can match for APV and avanza? I mean in the line of cheap big cars...

my budget is only 600k and I am looking for brand new... is there a car that have like apv and avanza? at the average of 600k php?


help me please

Thank You

[renzo_d10]

So you're opting for the Type I APV & the Avanza 1.3J.

Hmm, between those two I`d get the Avanza. The Type I APV is just, ehrr ... fugly. The Type II however is bearable. ;)

[ghosthunter]

Vehicle against vehicle, I would go for the APV. The Avanza is very affordable but the fit & finish (like the interior) is very "cheap" and it shows in the quality of the plastics and how it was put together as well.

But I am concerned about the servicing quality of job at Suzuki casa if you choose the APV.

With that in mind, I'd rather go for the Toyota Avanza. At least you know what you are buying into...

[shibby75]

for safety and stability, i'd go with the avanza. The APV is a bit high and narrow and you are sitting on top of the engine with little hood protection for front collision.

[ghosthunter]

for safety and stability, i'd go with the avanza. The APV is a bit high and narrow and you are sitting on top of the engine with little hood protection for front collision.

Stability in the Avanza? ... have you driven it yourself?

[MoonbeamTURBO]

I'm an owner of a Type 2 APV SGX A/T and my mom drives a Type 1 APV GLX A/T.

I'm pretty impressed of the quality of both vehicles but even though they are of the same platform, they drive and feel differently.

Both vehicles have great interior materials, but the interior of the Type 2 looks somewhat luxurious while the Type 1 looks more like a commerical vehicle (with fake wood for the now discontinued Type 1 GLX). The Type 2 is also quiet and comfortable inside (with the help of its live axle rear coil springs suspension setup), with good isolation from road noise while the Type 1 is "matagtag" (due to its rear live axle leaf springs suspension setup) and the road noise is louder than the Type 2 making other passengers perceive that the Type 1 is less solid than the Type 2, though its solidness is actually the same because both vehicles are of the same platform.

The exterior styling of the Type 1 is dated and isn't that great, though I like the rear end. The Type 2 looks much better than the Type 1 - it looks somewhat like a JDM-spec minivan.

Fuel consumption of both vans are not that great, but the Type 2 is slightly better. The Type 1 gets around 5.5 km/L in everyday city driving and the Type 2 gets 6 km/L in the same conditions. So if you want to save money on gas, avoid the APV (or maybe buy the manual version, the automatic version is really thirsty).

Stability of both vehicles are actually alright, but don't expect sedan-like stability. Contrary to its height, the APV's center of gravity is actually low because its engine is placed below the driver's seat - which is as high as an average sedan. I did a "slalom" at a parking lot once in my Type 2 and it felt pretty alright.

Regarding Suzuki's after-sales service, I'm satisfied by their speed and quality (Suzuki Auto Manila Bay). Suzuki also offers free 2 year/20,000 km PMS on all their cars so it's an edge for your savings. After 1 year for my Type 2 and 2 years for my mom's Type 1, there are no major headaches experienced yet for both of our cars.

I was also considering the Avanza 1.5G A/T when I was shopping for my car and I find the Avanza's interior materials not great and I do not really like its exterior styling. Also, I find the Avanza too small for our Sunday family outings.

So if you like fuel-efficiency and if you rarely need to fill-up 7 seats, get the Avanza. If you like comfort and space, get the APV (though I would suggest that you get the Type 2 GLX M/T instead if you can stretch your budget a bit -- but I think there's already a Type 2 GL M/T at around mid-600k). But if we're talking about the base-spec Avanza 1.3J or the base-spec APV GA, I'll take the Avanza. Styling-wise, it's subjective.

Sorry for the long post

[Gerbo]

Other "cheap big cars" at around 600 thousand pesos would be a pre-owned Adventure or Crosswind.

Wala masyado pinagbago sa current models. Just get a well maintained unit.

BTW, between the APV and the Avanza....I will choose the latter. Mas madali maintenance and with more units on the road the parts will not be in short supply.

[digitel]

I'd rather choose avanza over the APV, parang nakakatakot yung avanza sa highway pag na daanan ng mga bus ehehehe,

Like what sir Gerbo said, you can choose pre owned crosswinds and adventures which has relatively well maintained unit. Choose wisely.

[shibby75]

oo naman, why would i suggest it ? Im just comparing the two. NOT TO OTHER CARS. mas mataas at makitid ang APV kesa avanza, a tire blowout could cause roll over.

[digitel]

I agree here with sir shibby75.

[LeOxe]

i will definitely agree that the interior fit and finish of the Avanza is very poor. but for practicality, i would choose the Avanza J over the APV Type 1. plus an engine under the hood (Avanza) is much better than an engine under the front seats (APV). at least for me.

[blue_gambit]

sa APV ako. ayokong pina para ako pag nasa kalye, unless hot babe! ang maki hitch! hehehe

[kuyabanoy]

oo naman, why would i suggest it ? Im just comparing the two. NOT TO OTHER CARS. mas mataas at makitid ang APV kesa avanza, a tire blowout could cause roll over.

"a tire blowout could cause roll over" -- Reason why i choose the avanza.

[ronw123w124]

Avanza ako, ayoko kasi sa APV yung nasa ilalim ng upuan mo ang makina.

[tsupermario]

fried eggs

[niky]

Avanza, more stable than the APV? I'll ask what ghosthunter has asked, again... have you all driven these things?

The APV is a tall and tippy-feeling vehicle, but so is the Avanza... and the set of the suspension of the Avanza is more tail-happy than the APV. Where the APV plows (understeers) into a corner, the Avanza rear end starts to step out... which may be a problem on wet roads... especially considering that the Avanza is not a sports car and doesn't have the steering of one.

The mid-engined APV doesn't have the same heat issue as the old L300s, but I don't like the driving position that much. That said, the interior is a million times better than the base 1.3 Avanza and slightly better in Type II spec than the 1.5... but since your budget is 600k pesos, the 1.3 Avanza is all you can get... a car that has the interior of a 1990 Corolla Taxi.

Just don't get the automatic... economy on the matic sucks. The 1.3 Avanza would be better bought in manual, too... the 1.5 is just powerful enough to pull with the AT and get decent consumption, but the 1.3 is overburdened by it, and has a hard time climbing when equipped with the AT and loaded with a full complement of passengers.

In terms of maintenance, you're stuck with the casa on both for the first two or three years, anyway. After warranty, well... The Avanza engines share nothing with the old Tamaraw and are not the same as with the Vios, either... so while some parts might be easy to get thanks to the taxi fleet use, others may still be difficult. Thankfully, there are importers who specialize in parts for both cars... you just have to hunt at Banawe for them.

[_Qwerty_]

^^ wala pa namang 1.3 na matic for the Avanza right??

Just don't get the automatic... economy on the matic sucks. The 1.3 Avanza would be better bought in manual, too... the 1.5 is just powerful enough to pull with the AT and get decent consumption, but the 1.3 is overburdened by it, and has a hard time climbing when equipped with the AT and loaded with a full complement of passengers.

[jjmd3_787]

. . . considering quality, maintenance & operating cost, and looks ([SIZE=1]'though the APV has the upper hand in the interior[/SIZE]), I will have to go for the Avanza!

[MoonbeamTURBO]

niky's right and I can attest to the APV's engine under the seat not heating up our behind. Most "engine under the seat" vans today such as the Hiace (owned 2 of these, '05 Commuter and '06 GL Grandia) and the Urvan (currently have one, '04 Escapade which is already an old platform) wouldn't give you "fried eggs" like the L300.

[myas110]

sa APV ako. ayokong pina para ako pag nasa kalye, unless hot babe! ang maki hitch! hehehe

e do not pick the white one kc mapagkakamalan kang taxi...

but honestly, go for the avanza....kahit sabihin ng ibang tsikoteers ng pangit interior at exterior, avanza pa rin. May driver-side Airbag na sya and is the best alternative for the innova.

If you want a vehicle na halos ka--level ng sedan- price wise with 2 or more extra seats, Avanza na.