Nissa Sentra, Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla or Mazda 323

[50 Caliber]

Tsikot Tsips!

Enlightenment lang po.

I am planning to buy a 2nd hand car, my budget is around 150k to 200k.
I have these cars in mind:

Civic Esi, Nissan Eccs, Mazda 97 (round body), corolla big body.

ESi - Ok po ito, ok ang porma, pero 15 yrs of service na ito sa kalye,
baka every other month, may pinapalitan na ako. Mahal pa ang selling
price nya ngayon (160-190k). Baka maubusan na ako pera kakapagawa nito,
thinking that honda parts are rare and expensive (tama po ba ako?) at wala
po kasi abs and airbag. I am starting a family kasi, mahirap ang
wala sasakyan.

Nissan ECCS - Ok po sana, kasi mura (100k to 130k). Kumpleto pa ang lahat
ng functions ng mga high end cars. ABS, Airbag, na di tulad sa esi. Pero sabi
kasi nila, Nissan parts are expensive (because they are usually in assembly,
not by parts) at madali "daw" masira.

Mazda 97 - Kumpleto po lahat, mura (130k to 160k), may airbag, abs. Kaso di ko alam ang performance nito, kung madali at mura ang pyesa, maintenance wise, ok ba ito at hindi sirain compared to nissan?

Toyota Corolla - takot po kasi ako, baka ex taxi lang ito, or company car na
matagal nang laspag, at puro fake parts na ang nakakabit, every week magpalit ako.Wala pa efi, airbag, abs.

I hope you could enlighten most of us who are in search for a cheap and reliable car, knowing that these models are the most traded ones here in Tsikot.

More Power,

50_Caliber

[froshie1]

Tsikot Tsips!

Enlightenment lang po.

I am planning to buy a 2nd hand car, my budget is around 150k to 200k.
I have these cars in mind:

Civic Esi, Nissan Eccs, Mazda 97 (round body), corolla big body.

ESi - Ok po ito, ok ang porma, pero 15 yrs of service na ito sa kalye,
baka every other month, may pinapalitan na ako. Mahal pa ang selling
price nya ngayon (160-190k). Baka maubusan na ako pera kakapagawa nito,
thinking that honda parts are rare and expensive (tama po ba ako?) at wala
po kasi abs and airbag. I am starting a family kasi, mahirap ang
wala sasakyan.

Nissan ECCS - Ok po sana, kasi mura (100k to 130k). Kumpleto pa ang lahat
ng functions ng mga high end cars. ABS, Airbag, na di tulad sa esi. Pero sabi
kasi nila, Nissan parts are expensive (because they are usually in assembly,
not by parts) at madali "daw" masira.

Mazda 97 - Kumpleto po lahat, mura (130k to 160k), may airbag, abs. Kaso di ko alam ang performance nito, kung madali at mura ang pyesa, maintenance wise, ok ba ito at hindi sirain compared to nissan?

Toyota Corolla - takot po kasi ako, baka ex taxi lang ito, or company car na
matagal nang laspag, at puro fake parts na ang nakakabit, every week magpalit ako.Wala pa efi, airbag, abs.

I hope you could enlighten most of us who are in search for a cheap and reliable car, knowing that these models are the most traded ones here in Tsikot.

More Power,

50_Caliber

OA ang Civic, as for the Corolla ok lang pero dapat kilala mo iyong magbebenta sa iyo pero based from your posts eh parang hindi.

My personal pick, I would go for the ECCS or Mazda. Tawaran mo pa iyong ECCS at lalo na iyon Mazda. Talagang hesitant ako sa mga 10 year old plus cars na nasa 100k pa ang presyo unless talagang well kept. Hindi po sirain ang Sentra. Sirain na ba sa iyo ang tumatagal ng 6 years ang pangilalim?

[mazdamazda]

I'd also go for the Nissan & Mazda... they have more features as compared to other vehicles.

The ESi is just overpriced for an old car.

[nicolodeon]

Either the Mazda or the Nissan. As for "madaling masira" IMO all cars are "madaling masira" if not maintained - and driven - properly.

[1D4LV]

i would go for the mazda too.
complete features na yan. sarap pang pormahan.

[emongedmund]

either of the 4 cars of your choices, ok lahat performance ng mga yan.. if i were you, hindi ako magmamadaling bumili. makakahanap ka rin ng mura at maganda. dont expect na ang makukuha mong 2nd hand car walang sira, tama c nick. lahat ng cars nasisisra, even mine, kahit anong alaga ko, meron at meron nasisira..

[Patonten]

hi mr. 50 caliber, i'll try not to recommend/suggest kung ano ang bibilhin mo, but try to consider this, you said you're planning to buy a second hand car for your family, tama ang sabi mo na yung parts para sa sntra, cvic & Mzda are more expsive ksi usually assmbly ang mabbli mo, so ok ang ba corolla? based on my obsrvtion, mas tumatagal ang assmbly parts kaya lang ang problma yung availbility, kung coralla ang car mo, sabi nga nila, kahit na sa barrio ka masiraan, makkbili ka ng pyesa basta my auto supply, para sa akin mas magnda bumili ng sntra, cvic & Mzda kung brnd new ang bibilin mo and try to use it up to 5 to 6 yrs. kung mdyo kpos pa din ang budget for a new one, kasi remember na ang depreciation is disproportionate sa wear & tear ng sskyan. kya kung maingat ka naman at you will sell your car after 3 yrs, to buy for a new unit, lugi ka. Now, you might ask....bkit pwde naman ako pumili ng maayos pa na sntra, civc o mzda ah....! simple lang ang sagot ko dyan kuya.....kahit gaano kaayos ang nabili mo second hand car, gagstos at gagastos ka pa din dyan, so kailangan meron ka at least 5-10k sa bulsa mo.....remember hindi brand new ang bbilhin mo. regarding sa mga features na sinsbi mo like, ABS, airbag etc. para sa akin mas nagging mas risky sa part mo ang maghanap ng scond hand car pag ganon pang pilit mo makuha, kasi mas mabigat ang pag maintain ng sskyan na kung ano-ano ang naka kabit, again ksi po second hand ang bibilhin nyo. remember, kapag nabili nyo na ang car at eventually gusto nyo ulit palitan dahil mdyo ngkamli kyo, you cannt sell it sa price na gusto mo based on the acquisition price plus the imprvement or any accessories na inilagay nyo.

hope this will help.

[cablespy]

Either Civic or Corolla ako:

Civic - Easy to porma
Corolla - Easy Maintenance

[mazdamazda]

based on my obsrvtion, mas tumatagal ang assmbly parts kaya lang ang problma yung availbility,

I've never had any parts problem with our Mazda 323 - it's just another automobile myth that Toyota parts are available in any store nationwide.

[richie29]

my 2 cents worth based on my personal experience...i've had a 1993 corolla XE (big body) and a 1997 sentra XE...

the corolla xe: lots of room of course including trunk space; parts you can get anywhere but on the other hand, a lot of fake ones too (more than any brand of car!) and unless you know who you get it from, no choice but to get it from an authorized dealer or casa, so the supposed cheaper parts advantage evens out; my complaint, madaming parts and bushings yung suspension niya and madaling umingay pa, sa dami ng parts, hirap mag-diagnose so you eventually change most of them kaya more parts to change = expensive din naman in the end

the sentra:besides it being efi (or ecc), easier to maintain yung engine and timing chain pa siya so you dont have the risk of your car engine conking out in the middle of nowhere (unlike the timing belt which happened to me) especially in the case where you will be getting a 2nd hand car, including the suspension (less parts); the notion that expensive yung parts and kailangan assembly, thats a myth; plus an aircon system that beats everyone elses

in the end though, it really boils down to the 2nd hand car's history, the way it was used or abused...but with everything else even, between the 3 cars i'd go sentra

[jcastillo932]

Sentra ako because of Cheap parts, availability of parts (Surplus marami din), and reliability. Nissan uses timing chain kaya ala ka worries.

[brainmafia_310]

I'll go for the sentra kung pang family, real experience namin after 7 years last 2006 ang major pa lang namin pinapagawa sa sentra namin is ung rear suspension which we convert to Gas Type (lagi kasi kaming loaded) up to know regular maintenance lang and everything is normal.

Parts is not that expensive same reliability din sya with the others.

[50 Caliber]

Salamat po sa mga nag post ng response.

Regarding Mazda, is that the reason why these cars are always marked "sold out". Every mazda 323 that has been posted that looks nice has been sold for only 2 days in posting. Best seller ang mazda because of its features and maintenance wise, ok ito?

Regarding eccs, i like the outside appearance, classic, never too fancy. Im abroad right now, where you can find every and each car you can think of. rolls-royce, maserati, lots of coopers, bmw and volvos are common. And still, "civic 92", "corolla big body" and nissan eccs are still seen. Is this car worth buying, thinking of its age? Mapapakinabangan pa ba ito for the next two years? I still can see few roaming the metro streets, and thinking this car is way cheaper than toyota, honda, and mazda.

Any comments on nissan parts and maintenance? All i have are "myths" and it will things clearer for us who are in the dark, regarding these hearsays.

Thank you po ulit sa mga nag post.

More power to tsikot!

50 Caliber

[Josh0027]

.....remember hindi brand new ang bbilhin mo. regarding sa mga features na sinsbi mo like, ABS, airbag etc. para sa akin mas nagging mas risky sa part mo ang maghanap ng scond hand car pag ganon pang pilit mo makuha, kasi mas mabigat ang pag maintain ng sskyan na kung ano-ano ang naka kabit, again ksi po second hand ang bibilhin nyo. remember, kapag nabili nyo na ang car at eventually gusto nyo ulit palitan dahil mdyo ngkamli kyo, you cannt sell it sa price na gusto mo based on the acquisition price plus the imprvement or any accessories na inilagay nyo.

hope this will help.

it's always that whenever you buy any vehicle it's a losing investment not unless you put it in into business... maski brand new or second hand.

also hindi lang 10K ang kailangan mo buffer.. it should always be 20-30K para sa safe side. A second hand is a second hand always. lalabas at lalabas din sakit niyan.

and you should always check the car and test drive it. bring a trusted mechanic. hindi tayo tulad sa states na may history check ang vehicle.

and also consider also your needs on a vehicles features. ako kasi i considered ABS and airbags as a necessity pero i still have to check them since second hand. how many times did my abs saved me not because of bad driving but because of some of our fellow motorists who don't know how to drive "properly" in our roads or pedestrians who don't know what a pedestrian lane is or why the heck do they just run into your plain sight whoile travelling at 80kph at C5.

and lastly... huwag kang magmadali! and you'll find that vehicle that would fit your needs.

good luck!

[IGNITED]

Tsikot Tsips!

Enlightenment lang po.

I am planning to buy a 2nd hand car, my budget is around 150k to 200k.
I have these cars in mind:

Civic Esi, Nissan Eccs, Mazda 97 (round body), corolla big body.

ESi - Ok po ito, ok ang porma, pero 15 yrs of service na ito sa kalye,
baka every other month, may pinapalitan na ako. Mahal pa ang selling
price nya ngayon (160-190k). Baka maubusan na ako pera kakapagawa nito,
thinking that honda parts are rare and expensive (tama po ba ako?) at wala
po kasi abs and airbag. I am starting a family kasi, mahirap ang
wala sasakyan.

Nissan ECCS - Ok po sana, kasi mura (100k to 130k). Kumpleto pa ang lahat
ng functions ng mga high end cars. ABS, Airbag, na di tulad sa esi. Pero sabi
kasi nila, Nissan parts are expensive (because they are usually in assembly,
not by parts) at madali "daw" masira.

Mazda 97 - Kumpleto po lahat, mura (130k to 160k), may airbag, abs. Kaso di ko alam ang performance nito, kung madali at mura ang pyesa, maintenance wise, ok ba ito at hindi sirain compared to nissan?

Toyota Corolla - takot po kasi ako, baka ex taxi lang ito, or company car na
matagal nang laspag, at puro fake parts na ang nakakabit, every week magpalit ako.Wala pa efi, airbag, abs.

I hope you could enlighten most of us who are in search for a cheap and reliable car, knowing that these models are the most traded ones here in Tsikot.

More Power,

50_Caliber

he he.. I see ur one of the victims who believed in the old early 90's pinoy masa myth that nissan sentras are "mabilis masira". Believe me they are not. I'm a bit involved in my relative's car buy n' sell and medyo may know how na din. See those old b13 LEC cabs? ;) They are tough as a hell!! I would suggest sana that u pick in BIG 3 jap auto makers toyota rolla, nissan sen, honda civic.. pro as I said I'm involved in buy n' sell and based on my experience almost all ESIs has it's trade mark achilles heel... It's freaki'n rusty roof! kaya pick either rolla na lang or sen. Rolla no prob. sa piyesa at cheap pa, sa Sen some piyesa maybe a li'l bit expensive vs. rolla pro ur base price w/c is our local 2nd hand value here is cheaper... just pick na lang either one of them, the 1 that is better maintained and semi restored na.

[siat69]

get the corolla bro..pero look for a GLI.

[Pro323_b5]

I'd go for the Mazda


-Great looks and performance
-Fun to drive (zoom-zoom)
-Roomy
-Affordable to maintain

The only negative thing I could think of is that Mazdas are known gas guzzlers.

[torque2006]

he he.. I see ur one of the victims who believed in the old early 90's pinoy masa myth that nissan sentras are "mabilis masira". Believe me they are not. I'm a bit involved in my relative's car buy n' sell and medyo may know how na din. See those old b13 LEC cabs? ;) They are tough as a hell!! I would suggest sana that u pick in BIG 3 jap auto makers toyota rolla, nissan sen, honda civic.. pro as I said I'm involved in buy n' sell and based on my experience almost all ESIs has it's trade mark achilles heel... It's freaki'n rusty roof! kaya pick either rolla na lang or sen. Rolla no prob. sa piyesa at cheap pa, sa Sen some piyesa maybe a li'l bit expensive vs. rolla pro ur base price w/c is our local 2nd hand value here is cheaper... just pick na lang either one of them, the 1 that is better maintained and semi restored na.

+1 on the civic roof. it's generally known all over the world. it's something about the welding points, or the metal alloy honda's part manufacturer used. after 10 years, it starts to rust, and it's a pain in the a** to repair. very expensive.

[caloyski5]

rolla - practical buy

mazda - my vote..currently own one and very satisfied. even looking for the box type model for a second car like what was said a few posts above, medyo malakas sa gas (dont get an automatic) sa matic na 1.6l ko, i get about 8km/l

nissan - eccs model? i love that model. classic shape, great engine, lamig aircon..but front seats sandalan's foam crumbled after 6 years..same with our newer series3..

[gowthead]

any of the four will do just pick the one that is best maintained and nasa best condition. pero just a warning sa esi. some people buy it because they like the model itself. and are wiling to shell out cash kahit ano pa condition nito. mostly people buy honda eg's para gawing project car o dahil gusto lang talaga nila ung model and handa sila panindigan ung repairs ng bubong.hehe. so i gues that trims down your choice sa tatlo since family use talaga ung purpose mo. ive had my honda since we bought it brand new back in 95 kept it full stock and the ride is still sweet.sobra!