malaking problem Innova G 2.0 VVTI

[psp1234567]

bagong bili innova namain 2.0 G A/T VVTI, kahit anong tipid ko sqa pagapak sa gas, 4.9km/l lang takbo ko nakaon yung aircon, may TOPAK BA INNOVA NAMIN? then nung bago pa innova namin naka 129km na takbo na, then nakuha ko, di gumagana yung speedometer and odometer, sabi ng iba malamang ginamit daw yung innova kaya tinanggal connection sa spedometer and odometer para di umandar yung odometer...anu masasabi nyo mga experts? thanks

[A121]

brand new nyo ba nakuha? may warranty pa ba sya? ibalik nyo po sya sa toyota.

[lui]

sir sad to say baka demo unit po ung sa inyo. kasi kame din tinatanggal namen speedometer pag magde demo kame para mababa lang ung reading nung kotse pag binigay namen sa buyer. so far samen nman wala po naging problema ung mga demo unit na binigay namen sa customer.

[psp1234567]

under warranty pa po, yup brand new...may sinabi yung sale na galing marilao kaya 129km na ang takbo so feeling ko nga demo unit..pero ang dami nila excuses ayaw palitan ng bago..

[number001]

sir sad to say baka demo unit po ung sa inyo. kasi kame din tinatanggal namen speedometer pag magde demo kame para mababa lang ung reading nung kotse pag binigay namen sa buyer. so far samen nman wala po naging problema ung mga demo unit na binigay namen sa customer.

What's the use of disconnecting the speedometer when the customer has the right to know the true mileage of their "brand new" unit, unless of course the dealer got some other unscrupulous intentions.

[Syuryuken]

Kaya nga pinag-iipunan pambili ng brand new para walang problema ang ibibigay pala yung mga demo unit. Buti pa yung second hand makakapamili ng husto.

[fleas2016]

What's the use of disconnecting the speedometer when the customer has the right to know the true mileage of their "brand new" unit, unless of course the dealer got some other unscrupulous intentions.

meron bang law protecting consumers against this kind of thing?

[Jimbob]

tmp doesnt have car carriers, so halos lahat ng units are driven off from the sta. rosa plant to the dealer offices, thats one reason, pero, malaki possibility na ex-demo unit ung nakuha nyo, or ginamit na "taxi" ng dealer staff, ang laki masyado ng mileage eh...

[hitomi]

under warranty pa po, yup brand new...may sinabi yung sale na galing marilao kaya 129km na ang takbo so feeling ko nga demo unit..pero ang dami nila excuses ayaw palitan ng bago..

subukan niyo sir sumulat sa DTI. kunan niyo na ng picture yung odometer chaka isama ninyo sa sulat yung pag uusap niyo sa dealer na ayaw nilang palitan yung unit.

sir sad to say baka demo unit po ung sa inyo. kasi kame din tinatanggal namen speedometer pag magde demo kame para mababa lang ung reading nung kotse pag binigay namen sa buyer. so far samen nman wala po naging problema ung mga demo unit na binigay namen sa customer.

grabe kakatakot pala bumili sa hyundai/suzuki!!!

[number001]

tmp doesnt have car carriers, so halos lahat ng units are driven off from the sta. rosa plant to the dealer offices, thats one reason, pero, malaki possibility na ex-demo unit ung nakuha nyo, or ginamit na "taxi" ng dealer staff, ang laki masyado ng mileage eh...

It is also possible if his unit was purchased from the provincial dealers.

My unit was from Toyota Ortigas. 55 kms on the odometer when I got it. They only received the unit three days before I took delivery.


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Re: demo units

I have no problems with dealers using the delivered car as demo unit as long as they give an appropriate price reduction and other full disclosure.

[lui]

sir about demo po kc bihira lang talaga. tsaka samen po if may nagpa demo tapos ayaw nila nung unit na dinemo sa kanila kumukuha po ulit kame. so ang demo unit po ulit namen is kung anu lang ang available. it does not mean na laspag ang mga demo unit samen kc super bihira lang payagan ang ganitong scenario. sa ibang dealership po nde ko alam.

[lui]

subukan niyo sir sumulat sa DTI. kunan niyo na ng picture yung odometer chaka isama ninyo sa sulat yung pag uusap niyo sa dealer na ayaw nilang palitan yung unit.



grabe kakatakot pala bumili sa hyundai/suzuki!!!

sir linawin ko lang po na samen sa hyundai abad wala po kame demo unit. kapag may nagpa demo po w/c is very rare tinatanggal po namen speedometer kc nga po bka isipin demo unit un at madami na gumamit. tapos po bago naman i deliver ung unit pnapa inspect sa may ari so that pwede po nya hindi tanggapin or if sya ang kukuha sa casa pwede nya wag kunin ung unit at request sya ng iba.

[psp1234567]

thanks sa mga comments nyo..sa mga ibang may similar na nangyari ipost nyo...stressing sobra..tama si Syuryuken..kaya nga bumili bago para walang sakit sa ulo..actually binenta namin ford lynx para sa innova..sna di na lng kami nagpalit...

[psp1234567]

one more thing pala mga experts..pwede ba mainvetigate yung kung ganu kalayo na tinakbo ng sasakyan without odometer? i think we are planning to file case against .... if we found out na gamit yung unit..kac pinagdidiinan ng sales SIR! brand new yan!

[oldblue]

ganyan naman ata lahat ng dealers. yun lang mga nakadisplay na nasakyan na ng lahat ng mallgoers ano kaya nangyayari dun?

[number001]

sir about demo po kc bihira lang talaga. tsaka samen po if may nagpa demo tapos ayaw nila nung unit na dinemo sa kanila kumukuha po ulit kame. so ang demo unit po ulit namen is kung anu lang ang available. it does not mean na laspag ang mga demo unit samen kc super bihira lang payagan ang ganitong scenario. sa ibang dealership po nde ko alam.

Pang demo lang naman yun diba? So it is understood that the vehicle the customer is test driving has been used for testing and evaluation purposes on several occasions. It is also understood that, this being a designated demo vehicle, would not be a vehicle that the dealer would declare as brand new.

Or ang ibig mong sabihin, pinapademo mo sa customer yung auto before the transfer of ownership to them?

sir linawin ko lang po na samen sa hyundai abad wala po kame demo unit. kapag may nagpa demo po w/c is very rare tinatanggal po namen speedometer kc nga po bka isipin demo unit un at madami na gumamit. tapos po bago naman i deliver ung unit pnapa inspect sa may ari so that pwede po nya hindi tanggapin or if sya ang kukuha sa casa pwede nya wag kunin ung unit at request sya ng iba.

hindi ba kung sinabi magde"demo", ang gagamitin ay yung demo unit di ba? As in people would come in and try it out, but even with all the those test drive, hindi naman ganoon kadaling malaspag yan. It would take tens of thousand of kilometers of "rough" driving to wear out a new vehicle.

Some dealers of Kia, Toyota, Honda, Mistubishi, etc...really do have specially designated demo units, which they would eventually sell as "used" units.


To sum it up, I still dont understand why is there a need to purposely disconnect the speedometer esp. during a test drive, other than for devious and unscrupulous intentions or purposes.

[number001]

one more thing pala mga experts..pwede ba mainvetigate yung kung ganu kalayo na tinakbo ng sasakyan without odometer? i think we are planning to file case against .... if we found out na gamit yung unit..kac pinagdidiinan ng sales SIR! brand new yan!

Which dealer did you get your unit from? If its from the province, it is quite natural to have such a high mileage. If its from the metro area, the mileage is quite high.

High mileage or not during the vehicle's delivery, I still don't see the connection with your encountered problem of poor fuel consumption and the speedometer.

One more thing, have you tried resetting the fuel consumption rate on your on-board trip computer? If you haven't then, your fuel consumption rate is getting averaged cumulatively. Try to reset the on-board computer, after every refuelling.

Re: investigation. Mukhang malabo yan, unless you have complete documentation or hard evidence.

[lui]

Pang demo lang naman yun diba? So it is understood that the vehicle the customer is test driving has been used for testing and evaluation purposes on several occasions. It is also understood that, this being a designated demo vehicle, would not be a vehicle that the dealer would declare as brand new.

Or ang ibig mong sabihin, pinapademo mo sa customer yung auto before the transfer of ownership to them?





hindi ba kung sinabi magde"demo", ang gagamitin ay yung demo unit di ba? As in people would come in and try it out, but even with all the those test drive, hindi naman ganoon kadaling malaspag yan. It would take tens of thousand of kilometers of "rough" driving to wear out a new vehicle.

Some dealers of Kia, Toyota, Honda, Mistubishi, etc...really do have specially designated demo units, which they would eventually sell as "used" units.


To sum it up, I still dont understand why is there a need to purposely disconnect the speedometer esp. during a test drive, other than for devious and unscrupulous intentions or purposes.

yup sir ganito po nangyayari. gamitin ko na po example ung nangyari last thursday, bale nung friday po tumawag ung customer nag inquire, humingi ng disc. etc. tapos po nung nagkasundo na posa deal she requested if pwede po i demo ung unit sa haus nya. so monday po punta kame dun para ipakita mismo what unit she will be getting fr. us. sinabi na din namen na iyun na din mismo ang ide deliver namen since un na ung color na gusto nya. pumayag naman po sya kc if gusto po nya ng ibang unit ok lang naman umorder kame ulet sa HARI. so ganun po ang nangyayari sa amen. pag ok na ung deal tapos nag request po ng demo tsaka palang po kame naglalabas ng unit.

[number001]

yup sir ganito po nangyayari. gamitin ko na po example ung nangyari last thursday, bale nung friday po tumawag ung customer nag inquire, humingi ng disc. etc. tapos po nung nagkasundo na posa deal she requested if pwede po i demo ung unit sa haus nya. so monday po punta kame dun para ipakita mismo what unit she will be getting fr. us. sinabi na din namen na iyun na din mismo ang ide deliver namen since un na ung color na gusto nya. pumayag naman po sya kc if gusto po nya ng ibang unit ok lang naman umorder kame ulet sa HARI. so ganun po ang nangyayari sa amen. pag ok na ung deal tapos nag request po ng demo tsaka palang po kame naglalabas ng unit.

Ganoon pala.

Kasi para saakin, I like to personally inspect and pick the unit (if possible) straight from the dealer's lot or warehouse (not showroom). Pati yung bayaran at pick-up also at the dealer (not delivered to the house or office) so I can inspect the unit again.

[redorange]

sir linawin ko lang po na samen sa hyundai abad wala po kame demo unit. kapag may nagpa demo po w/c is very rare tinatanggal po namen speedometer kc nga po bka isipin demo unit un at madami na gumamit. tapos po bago naman i deliver ung unit pnapa inspect sa may ari so that pwede po nya hindi tanggapin or if sya ang kukuha sa casa pwede nya wag kunin ung unit at request sya ng iba.

That is still an unfair practice because you are doing it with the intent of deceiving the buyer. In the US not all models have demo units also, so they use the cars on the lot for test drives and don't disconnect the odometer. When I test drove my truck it had about 6 miles on it and ended up buying and taking home the exact unit I drove that day.