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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by ryan View Post
    Also, I don't think fuel consumption matters too much for people with a budget for 2M performance cars.
    Believe me, it does matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    RWD is great fun in ideal conditions but it can be dangerous in bad weather or simply bad roads or roads with loose surface (gravel or sand on it). I have spun out RWD vehicles before simply because of some loose gravel or sand in the corner as I applied power at the apex.

    It wouldn't have happened if i had AWD to help me grip and correct the car.
    Yep. That's the disadvantage of having a RWD car. Kasi mostly, RWD's are meant for drifting. Look at the Silvia, it's RWD. It's a drift car. Look at the A31 Cefiro, it's RWD and then again, it's a drift car.

    Not that RWD cars spins a lot but there's a bigger possibility of this happening. You make it more dangerous by turning the traction control off.

    BTW, people turn the TC off so they can skid the tires from stop to sudden acceleration. ( clutch-engage in 1st gear-rev while stepping on the clutch-release the clutch )

    The AWD on the other hand gives a better grip > RWD. One disadvantage that I'm seeing is that when it's being towed - an AWD car cannot be towed since it can damage the transmission. If you need it to bring an AWD car on a shop, lift it in a truck bed.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Believe me, it does matter.
    Yep, it does. Money saved from gas can be spent on mods.

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    Again, it's practicality vs. looks. Of course a non-car enthusiast cannot differentiate further which is which ( RA vs. EX ) and they would normally appreciate the looks of the GC since admittedly it really is eye-catchy > lancer RA.

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    The AWD on the other hand gives a better grip > RWD.
    yep, 4 wheels scratching is always better than 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    [COLOR=SeaGreen]Yep. That's the disadvantage of having a RWD car. Kasi mostly, RWD's are meant for drifting. Look at the Silvia, it's RWD. It's a drift car. Look at the A31 Cefiro, it's RWD and then again, it's a drift car.

    Not that RWD cars spins a lot but there's a bigger possibility of this happening. You make it more dangerous by turning the traction control off.

    BTW, people turn the TC off so they can skid the tires from stop to sudden acceleration. ( clutch-engage in 1st gear-rev while stepping on the clutch-release the clutch )]
    On the thing about all RWD being drift cars, not really. Sometimes it is just the layout that makes sense. Good handling and good power delivery.

    A Merc S350 is RWD but its not a drift car (but that didnt stop me from drifting it anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie123456789 View Post
    yep, 4 wheels scratching is always better than 2.
    Hindi ba mas mahina mag burnout ang AWD

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    The s2000 and miata is a couple of examples of a rwd that's almost impossible to drift. You have to be a really good driver to drift the s2000, for the miata kahit gano ka pa ka galing you won't be able to drift it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Hindi ba mas mahina mag burnout ang AWD
    Yup, you can only do a quick burn out on an awd car. I don't advise doing it cause you'll break a lot of parts if done repeatedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foresterx View Post
    The s2000 and miata is a couple of examples of a rwd that's almost impossible to drift. You have to be a really good driver to drift the s2000, for the miata kahit gano ka pa ka galing you won't be able to drift it.
    generally the miata doesnt have enough power to drift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Hindi ba mas mahina mag burnout ang AWD
    yep, but in terms of handling, 4 wheels scratching is better than two.

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    #30
    Mitsu Ralliart, it can blend in at mall parking lots to evade car thieves yet deliver more than enough performance for a regular guy(as in skill not money). And evo's age well, that cant be said for all coupes. It may not be a full pledged evo, but it has pedigree... and seats 5 + trunk

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    if i were to choose, i'll get the Lancer Ralliart because it has got the rally breed and should you want to go unnoticed, this is the right car to camouflage.

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    #32
    Unless you are a racer of some sort, speed difference shouldn't be too far off. Do you intend to bring it to the track? Looks on the other hand is heavily in favor of the genesis. Dont take my word for it, ask your gf, her friends, your friends, your katulong, even manong guard. Hehe

    Altho, there is a factor i am on the fence about -- built quality. Genesis is still relatively new (and thus largely untested), while the lancer is an institution. I have a friend with a genesis who is complaining about the clicking sound of the transmission lock release (when on park and he presses the brakes, there is an unusually loud click). His car is about a year old pa lang. Hyundai has no idea what to do with it. Not a big big issue, but it bothers him. Not sure how heavily this should play in the decision between these two.

    But the genesis really turns heads! Even evo only gets attention of enthusiasts, which is really a narrow segment of the population.

    Go with your gut! Ultimately, which would you feel better driving out of the garage everyday?

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    yup 30hp won't really make a difference in speed, unless you're on the track and both cars have drivers of the same skills.

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    I'd choose practicality on this one. The addt'l seats and the possible sleeper characteristic of the EX RA is too good to pass up. Plus its AWD.
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    #35
    The Lancer EX RALLIART still has that 4 door practicality combined with AWD handling goodness.

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    Stylewise, the Lancer pales in comparison to a Genesis. A Lancer will always just look like a college kid's Lancer pumped up with scoops and wings.

    We have a Genesis and a lesser model Lancer. Both are reliable enough that it's a non-issue.

    Just pick what you like. All out performance with semblance of practicality, I'd go Lancer. If you want to stand out on the road and even when you're standing still, get a Genesis Coupe.

    Since we already have a boring sedan for boring commuting duty, I'd pick the Genesis Coupe on this one.

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    Stylewise, the Lancer pales in comparison to a Genesis. A Lancer will always just look like a college kid's Lancer pumped up with scoops and wings.

    We have a Genesis and a lesser model Lancer. Both are reliable enough that it's a non-issue.

    Just pick what you like. All out performance with semblance of practicality, I'd go Lancer. If you want to stand out on the road and even when you're standing still, get a Genesis Coupe.

    Since we already have a boring sedan for boring commuting duty, I'd pick the Genesis Coupe on this one.

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    #38
    Budget P2.0M? hhmmmm maybe 08-09 Evo X is already close to that price, 2-2.3M? It's worth the penny you'll add.

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