Mazda3 v Honda Civic (2006) [Merged]

[parakitoJDM]

seems that the Civic has some competition (at least stateside) - it is a pity that the MX-5's 2.0L 170hp engine didn't make it to the Mazda3... to note also that Mazda offers a 2.3L option for the Mazda3... and oh... there's the upcoming 250hp Mazdaspeed 3... seems like Mazda is starting to focus on horsepower.

Yes, Mazda has no choice but to oblige. HorsePower sells and not just in North America. tingnan mo dto sa Pinas the Altis 1.8G boasts a bloated 145hp more powerful than Mazda's 2.0li MZR engine.

BTW, i was thinking. can we settle the power dispute once and for all and Dyno all 5cars (Mazda3: 1.6, 2.0; Honda Civic: 1.8; 2.0; Altis1.8G) and see what's the real output of these engines.

Cast Call tayo for volunteers with their cars, and patak patak na din sa Dyno time...

[mazdamazda]

BTW, i was thinking. can we settle the power dispute once and for all and Dyno all 5cars (Mazda3: 1.6, 2.0; Honda Civic: 1.8; 2.0; Altis1.8G) and see what's the real output of these engines.

Cast Call tayo for volunteers with their cars, and patak patak na din sa Dyno time...

Well, you can just try waiting for C! Magazine to do a 0-100kph run of the said cars... AFAIK the Mazda3 1.6L takes a leisurely 14+ secs to do that.

[Bravoexo]

At least dalawang klase, sedan at hatch... he he he

[odell]

pag ikaw bravoexo.. pagpapalit mo ba mz3 mo sa civic? :D

[Bravoexo]

Di kasya laptop ko sa glovebox ng civic, buti pa sa mz3 ko. ha ha ha.....joke.

[mackieboy]

Di kasya laptop ko sa glovebox ng civic, buti pa sa mz3 ko. ha ha ha.....joke.

hehehe

[miLes]

haha pero ang laki nga ng glove compartment ng 3, pwede ka magtago ata ng infant dun hehe

[Bravoexo]

haha pero ang laki nga ng glove compartment ng 3, pwede ka magtago ata ng infant dun hehe

Wag naman...ha ha ha...

The stock HU actually fits inside, with room to spare.

[number001]

One thing I dont like about the "3" is that its 1.6 engine cannot seem to take higher octane rating fuel like Shell's Velocity, Petron's XCS, Caltex's Blaze, etc.... Use only regular unleaded fuel.

[Bravoexo]

One thing I dont like about the "3" is that its 1.6 engine cannot seem to take higher octane rating fuel like Shell's Velocity, Petron's XCS, Caltex's Blaze, etc.... Use only regular unleaded fuel.

Caltex's Blaze? I am not using Caltex for a while now, pero akala ko Petron ang Blaze...baka nagkakamali ako.

All mz3 engines aren't recommended to use our country's above 93 Octane unleaded gas. (Per the Asian and EU Manual, not the NAmerican manual)(Some clubmazda3 members are on Velocity, I believe.) But it's not the case outside our country.

[number001]

Caltex's Blaze? I am not using Caltex for a while now, pero akala ko Petron ang Blaze...baka nagkakamali ako.

All mz3 engines aren't recommended to use our country's above 93 Octane unleaded gas. (Per the Asian and EU Manual, not the NAmerican manual)(Some clubmazda3 members are on Velocity, I believe.) But it's not the case outside our country.

You're right its Petron Blaze, my bad. The SA even mentioned that Petron XCS is not compatible also. He said simply pick the unleaded fuel of any brand would be fine.

[Bravoexo]

You're right its Petron Blaze, my bad. The SA even mentioned that Petron XCS is not compatible also. He said simply pick the unleaded fuel of any brand would be fine.

This probably is probably due to two things... 1 is that the manual recommends only up to 93. And the other is that incident where a mz3 owner's engine was full of crud from using XCS...because of all that additive in XCS that makes it the preferred fuel alternative to the older engines that came out before unleaded fuels came out. (technically, all our fuels are unleaded already...they differ in octane and additives present.)

Sa US, the mazda3 drag car uses 100 Octane, and most boosted 3's there use 100 Octane when they dyno above 20psi.

[lightning099]

Caltex's Blaze? I am not using Caltex for a while now, pero akala ko Petron ang Blaze...baka nagkakamali ako.

All mz3 engines aren't recommended to use our country's above 93 Octane unleaded gas. (Per the Asian and EU Manual, not the NAmerican manual)(Some clubmazda3 members are on Velocity, I believe.) But it's not the case outside our country.

I've been using Velocity ever since I bought my 1.6V last Dec. 2005, so far ok naman performance. Is this bad? Meron na po ba dito naka experience ng problem sa engine dahil sa pag gamit ng mas mataas na Octane?

[mackieboy]

I've been using Velocity ever since I bought my 1.6V last Dec. 2005, so far ok naman performance. Is this bad? Meron na po ba dito naka experience ng problem sa engine dahil sa pag gamit ng mas mataas na Octane?

never tried higher octane... nasayo na yan if you'll take the risk..

[jg2003]

di ba mas ok nga if ganun ang case for mz3 coz mas mura unleaded? :=)

[parakitoJDM]

di ba mas ok nga if ganun ang case for mz3 coz mas mura unleaded? :=)

i believe you are right, it means the engine is optimized for Lower Octane gas. and pumping in Higher Octane gas won't have the added benefit of higher power so that's why they probably don't recommend it.

[number001]

Btw, the fuel restrictions are for the Mazda 1.6li only. The 2.0li "R" can handle all types of fuel octane.

[yujiboy]

[Bravoexo]

eh?

[yuichi]

just saw both parked quite close to each other in hk last sat.....at a glance mas malkas dating ng 3...mas sporty sya...peo habang tumatagal mas nagugustuhan ko si vic...lalo interior...ewan ko lng sa ride at handling.