Mazda3 v Honda Civic (2006) [Merged]

[Flagg]

Mukhang Honda City Type L(ongbody) yun a. wakekek

[niky]

Think about it, though. The rev meter is just the right size to see through the wheel. To see the speedometer, you'll have to move your head a little higher or lower if the steering is adjusted so that you can see the rev meter. Vice versa if you have the wheel adjusted so you can see the speedometer.

Only a few reviewers have commented on this, but I'd like to see it for myself.

[Bravoexo]

http://www.autointell.com/asian_comp...zda-3-2004.htm

The ATX is faster by 20% in shifting from 1-2 pala over the MTX sa Mazda3... no wonder.

[Psylocke]

Is it possible to configure the top display to show RPM instead?

[O!lman]

Hindi kaya maging Palitaw ang Mazda sa Pinas? Lulubog-Lilitaw? I'm planning to buy a new Sedan but w/ previous irresponsible Mazda dealership makes me think of buying a Honda or Toyota na lang. Our Mazda323Familia has just been repainted but told by the painting shop na bloated na ang mga metal parts dahil sa kalawang. Too bad for a 96 model. Yung OEM magwheels ng Mazda namin ay magkakaiba ang sukat sa wheel holes(hindi match), hindi sila mag-fit. Once na na-flat ang rear tire ko, yung reserve tire ay hindi pumasok yung bolts sa hole ng mags........Damn ****!

I will wait for New Corolla and decide between Civic and Corolla!

[Karding]

centum, very good decision.

[niky]

I've seen a lot of ten year old cars with bad rusting problems. And a lot of them were Hondas and Toyotas. :lol: With a ten year old car, the collection of bruises, dings, bumps, masilya and so forth conspire to create a lot of rust problems for owners. It all depends on how the car was cared for and how well it was repainted.

I've got a 95' Mazda that has no body rust yet, as it was well cared for when new, and repainted cleanly.

Actually, Mazda is in for the long haul, this time, and as they share so much mechanically with Ford, parts should no longer be a problem.

Although the fact that they have different center hub sizes front and rear has always been a puzzlement to me.

[niky]

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/ly/06csx.htm

Review of the Acura CSX, which is probably very close to the 2.0 Civic we'll be getting.

Of note:

Fans of the EL's clean interior - with its tightly-clustered gauges and central control panel - will find that the CSX's dashboard will take a little getting used to. The instruments are divided into two tiers, with the primary information like speed and warning lights up high, and other information, like the tachometer, clustered in a smaller panel down low. I look as much at the tachometer as I do at the speedometer in most driving - especially in something I'm shifting manually - and found it difficult to re-focus my eyes depending on what I was looking at. The high-set radio display, away from the actual controls, works better just because it's in your line of sight.

That's what I'm talking about... even though it seems it is possible to find a steering wheel position that keeps both levels of instruments in view (so I was wrong there... ), it's still not as easy to use as a single level instrument cluster. Although the solo rev meter would be fun to use on the racetrack.

If you're after the friskiest compact, the less-expensive Mazda3's where it's at, though it can't match the CSX's high level of refinement, whether you're attacking a winding road or just cruising down the highway.

In short, the new Civic is a great car, but still not the throwback to the sporting EK Civics we hoped it would be. But then, the Focus is also more refined and less "frisky" than the Mazda3... mukhang fight between Focus and Civic ang "sport compact" throne next year.

[carlocaraddict]

matest drive nga ang bagong civic pag dumating so i can compare it w/ the mazda 3

[gearspeed]

matest drive nga ang bagong civic pag dumating so i can compare it w/ the mazda 3

hephephep sama ko sama ko sama ko taas kamay...sama ko..hhehe

[CLAVEL3699]

carlo,

Yang dalawa pinag pipilian ko.

Pero mas gus2 ko itsura nang mazda

[parakitoJDM]

Check this story on CNN...

CNN Small Car Winner List

Mazda 3
Any shortlist of compact cars is sure to include the Toyota Corolla and the all-new 2006 Honda Civic, but the Mazda 3 is simply a cut above. It's practical and easy on gas, but also stylish and fun to drive

[parakitoJDM]

2006 Mazda3 Facelift


Enhanced Design, Quality, Comfort and Performance
Also premiering at Geneva 2006 is the new facelift version of the highly acclaim*ed Mazda3 line up, which introduced exhilarating driving performance, emotional styling and high levels of craftsmanship to the global C-segment when it was launched in 2003. The Mazda3 facelift* takes these attributes to a new level and features even more exhil*arating driving fun with improved torque characteristics for all engines plus an available six-speed manual transmission. Styling enhancements raise the original Mazda3's emotionally-appealing first impression of sportiness and quality. And Mazda craftsmanship has also been improved, with an interior look and feel that users will appreciate every time they drive the car.

Exterior Design – Two Body Styles, Two Distinct Personalities

Adding to the emotional personality of its predecessor, the Mazda3 facelift 4-door sedan’s image of modern elegance is further enhanced. Redesigned bumpers provide a massive look and a chrome bar on the front grille expresses a high quality feel. For the 5-door hatchback, the grille's upper bar is body coloured and further refines the origi-nal’s smartly energetic Zoom-Zoom styling. In addition, 15, 16 and 17-inch aluminium alloy wheels have all been redesigned. Sports appearance package (SAP) equipment and selected options are also available to give both the 4-door and 5-door versions a more athletic look: the 4-door SAP promotes a feeling of stability, while the 5-door SAP is the sportiest model in the Mazda3 facelift line up and exudes a youthful personality.

Interior Design

Particular attention was paid to improving interior quality. Two interior colour schemes are planned, depending on grade and market, a grey interior colour for a feeling of high-class sporty refinement, and a sports-oriented black interior. Both interior colour packages received newly designed white cluster meters and a stylish piano black decoration panel.

The following summarizes information on Mazda products to be exhibited at the 2006 Geneva International Motor Show. Specifications and equipment are subject to change.

The Sports Grade (depending on market) with black interior and blackout type meters includes a decorative insert finished with a hairline treatment in the instrument panel to communicate even more high quality and sportiness.

More Mature Driving Attributes and a More Refined Ride
Mazda engineers began work on bolsteringMazda3's highly-regarded dynamic perfor-mance immediately after the original model launch, with the aim of improving fuel economy, ride comfort and quietness. To achieve this, engines and transmissions were upgraded to deliver a livelier, more comfort-able drive supported by ample torque. In addition to improving Mazda3 facelift’s handling stability, ease of operation and ride quality, Mazda also achieved further reductions in noise and vibration.

The MZR 2.0-litre petrol engine produces 110kW/150 PS of maximum power at 6,500 rpm* and maximum torque of 187 Nm at 4,000 rpm*.It adopts high-accuracy electronic throttle control for the first time, along with newly introduced sequential valve timing(S-VT).Optimal adjustment of the engine's intakevalve operation in response to running conditions achieves high charging efficiency. Together with a variable induction system(VIS), this allows the engine to achieve powerful torque throughout the whole revrange. The MZR 1.6-litre petrol engine – with a maximum power output of 77 kW/105 PS at6,000 rpm* and maximum torque of 145 Nm at4,000 rpm* – retains the same S-VT and VIS as the original model, and is calibrated to further improve fuel efficiency. The base MZR 1.4-litrepetrol engine produces 62 kW/84 PS of maxi-mum power at 6,000 rpm* and 122 Nm of maximum torque at 4,000 rpm* (depending onmarket offer). This engine is given modified valve timing based on the S-VT already employed. This heightens charging efficiency at low engine speeds without sacrificing power in the higher engine speed range to give ample torque at low and middle engine speeds for powerful, easy driving.

The MZ-CD 1.6-litre diesel engine remains in the Mazda3 facelift line up for Europe. Two versions are available with maximum power outputs of 66 kW/90 PS and 80 kW/109 PS at 4,000 rpm* and maximum torque of 215 Nm and 240 Nm at just 1,750 rpm* respectively (90 PS depending on market offer). Both deliv*er an exceptional balance of power, low fuel consumption and emissions, and low NVH. Both of these DOHC 16- valve engines feature aluminium construction for low weight,

along with a 160 MPa ultra-high pressure common-rail injection system. The standard powered diesel employs a fixed geometry turbocharger and the higher powered diesel employs a variable geometry turbocharger and also a diesel particulate filter.

The MZR 2.0-litre petrol engine is available with a newly-introduced six-speed manual transmission. Triple-cone synchronizers for first and second gears and double-cone synchronizers for third and fourth gears assure ample sync capacity for a light, crisp shift feel and predictable operation. Gear ratios between third and sixth gears are set close to provide better, stress-free passing acceleration at high speeds. The sixth gear functions as overdrive and contributes to improved quietness at high speed as well as better fuel economy.

The standard five-speed manual transmission for the MZR 1.4-litre and 1.6-litre petrols has been further refined throughout, and clutch operating feel has been improved. The MZR 1.6-litre petrol engine is also available with an electronically controlled, four-speed auto*matic transmission (depending on market).

The sound of the engine is one of the impor*tant elements affecting the vehicle’s fun-to-drive aspects, as well as good acceleration and gear shift feel. Mazda3 facelift petrol models have higher-rigidity drive shaft mountings to reduce the droning sound generated at high engine speeds and the alternator mounted on the MZR 2.0-litre petrol engine is specifically designed to reduce its operating noise. These measures result in a linear acceleration feel up to high engine speeds.

Further Evolution of Mazda3’s Acclaimed Body and Chassis

The Mazda3 facelift’s body shell has been upgraded by bolstering local rigidity for an even stiffer, safer body and even sportier han*dling and firm ride quality. The suspension system has been optimized to further reinforce Mazda3’s acclaimed Zoom-Zoom handling, while still achieving a refined and comfortable ride. Mazda3 facelift’s MacPherson strut front suspension has improved damper perfor*mance and has been tuned to improve steer*ing response and reduce understeer during high-speed cornering. The multi-link rear suspension ensures improved rear-end stabil*ity during high-speed cornering.

Improved Aerodynamics

To further enhance Mazda3 facelift's exciting dynamic performance, the aerodynamics team focused on reducing high-speed drag and improving stability. In particular, they worked to improve underfloor aerodynamics, achieving superior aerodynamic performance (for the 5-door hatchback, Cd = 0.30). In addi*tion to contributing to better fuel economy and improved high-speed acceleration, Mazda3 facelift’s upgraded aerodynamics contribute to even more exceptional handling stability, with predictable straight line driving and high-speed lane changing.

Improved Quietness

Further evolving the Zoom-Zoom driving enjoyment of the Mazda3 facelift included isolating road noise and reducing wind noise during high-speed driving. Measures taken include expanding the use of bonnet-under-side insulation to more models, revising tyres, bolstering rim rigidity, improving suspension vibration characteristics, and installing sound-absorbing material in the cabin roof of all models.

New Features for Even More Comfort and Ease-of-Use

The Mazda3 facelift employs several new features for improved comfort and ease-of-use. An advanced keyless entry and start system is introduced (depending on market and grade). Simply carrying a card-type key allows the driver to lock and unlock the doors, the boot or rear hatch, and start and stop the engine by turning the starter knob. In addition, the advanced key's lock/unlock button and outer door handle request switch enable opening or closing all windows from outside the car. In hot sunshine the car can be ventilated, or a window left open can be closed, without having to get back into the car. The Mazda3 facelift’s integrated audio system includes a 20 GB hard disk drive with capac*ity to store up to approximately 3000 tracks recorded from CDs, as well as a CD player and AM/FM tuner (depending on market offer).

High Levels of Safety

The Mazda3 facelift’s standard active safety package includes four-wheel disc brakes with ventilated 278 mm discs at the front and solid 265 mm discs at the rear (for the MZR 2.0-litre, 300 mm at the front and 280 mm at the rear), 4W-ABS, EBD and emergency brake assist. Dynamic stability control (DSC) is also available for stable handling. In addition, auto light and rain-sensing wiper systems help to maintain clear visibility of the road in bad weather and during night driving.

Mazda3 facelift’s passive safety systems feature a rigid body shell that provides excep*tional collision safety. For occupant protection, front dual airbags are standard, and side and curtain airbags are available as well (depending on market and grade). In addition, the shape of the tilt and telescopic steering column adjustment lever is modified, and impact-absorbing material is installed to the steering column, to help reduce the possibility of injury to the driver’s knees.

[HOLLOWMAN]

Re: FORD FOCUS. MAZDA 3? KELAN BA LABAS NG BAGONG CIVIC? - Lady hollow


join kayo sa thread ko. tnx. pakisearch nalang

[NSL]

April 3 official launching ng 2006 civic.

abang abang n nga ang tropa for test drive

back to topic - I already saw the new civic. iba pa rin ang dating ng Mazda3 in & out vs new civic.

OT: iluv focus hatch ... pogi talaga

[Bravoexo]

back to topic - I already saw the new civic. iba pa rin ang dating ng Mazda3 in & out vs new civic.

Aha!

[lancer]

Aha!

Ah.... in short subjective pa rin. A matter of personal taste. Personally I dont like the look of mazda.. front facia looks similarly with vios...originality? Same old school...IMO lang.

[Camgen6]

Hi fellow tsikoteers!!!,
I joined this forum when the 06 civic first came out, it was because I was very interested with this car...fast forward to few months later and upon research, research and research and I finally had the chance to test drive the 06 Civic EX and the 06 Mazda 3 "S" series. Both cars are nice but now I'm leaning towards the Mazda 3, the moment I sat inside the Mazda and started driving it, I fell in love, it handles very well, astig na astig ang handling at mas malakas ang hatak, 2.3l 160hp compared to Civic's 1.8l 140hp, mind you, both cars are very nice, its just that the Mazda got my attention. Now that we are about to buy one of these car (in less than 2 months time frame), Wife wants the Civic and I'm trying to convince her that the Mazda is the better choice. Para sa wife kasi to eh.

[mazdamazda]

Hi fellow tsikoteers!!!,
I joined this forum when the 06 civic first came out, it was because I was very interested with this car...fast forward to few months later and upon research, research and research and I finally had the chance to test drive the 06 Civic EX and the 06 Mazda 3 "S" series. Both cars are nice but now I'm leaning towards the Mazda 3, the moment I sat inside the Mazda and started driving it, I fell in love, it handles very well, astig na astig ang handling at mas malakas ang hatak, 2.3l 160hp compared to Civic's 1.8l 140hp, mind you, both cars are very nice, its just that the Mazda got my attention. Now that we are about to buy one of these car (in less than 2 months time frame), Wife wants the Civic and I'm trying to convince her that the Mazda is the better choice. Para sa wife kasi to eh.

you might want to check out edmund's mazda3 v civic comparo:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=108601

[-=Henderson=-]

Hi fellow tsikoteers!!!,
I joined this forum when the 06 civic first came out, it was because I was very interested with this car...fast forward to few months later and upon research, research and research and I finally had the chance to test drive the 06 Civic EX and the 06 Mazda 3 "S" series. Both cars are nice but now I'm leaning towards the Mazda 3, the moment I sat inside the Mazda and started driving it, I fell in love, it handles very well, astig na astig ang handling at mas malakas ang hatak, 2.3l 160hp compared to Civic's 1.8l 140hp, mind you, both cars are very nice, its just that the Mazda got my attention. Now that we are about to buy one of these car (in less than 2 months time frame), Wife wants the Civic and I'm trying to convince her that the Mazda is the better choice. Para sa wife kasi to eh.

Isn't it unfair? Because you're comparing a top of the line 2.3L against a lower class model 1.8L.