Mazda3 v Honda Civic (2006) [Merged]

[jobski]

Civic 06! fresh look that will last you 5 years, mazda 3 nasa middle years na, baka pag labas ng bagong model eh maluma agad and civic 06 bukas its a good ride and ok na ok sa price for the engine/interior/exterior... Me rides one :D

[number001]

Civic 06! fresh look that will last you 5 years, mazda 3 nasa middle years na, baka pag labas ng bagong model eh maluma agad and civic 06 bukas its a good ride and ok na ok sa price for the engine/interior/exterior... Me rides one :D

Dont hold your breath too soon....In recent years, Honda has been doing "major" facelifts for certain models. Examples of these facelifts: ES Civic in 2003, CRV in 1st quarter of 2005, City in 2nd half of 2005, etc... The FD Civic will probably receive a major facelift in 2 to 3 years time.

[jobski]

Dont hold your breath too soon....In recent years, Honda has been doing "major" facelifts for certain models. Examples of these facelifts: ES Civic in 2003, CRV in 1st quarter of 2005, City in 2nd half of 2005, etc... The FD Civic will probably receive a major facelift in 2 to 3 years time.

yes i know this, but at least you ride the new gen for 3 years, and then the facelift, tapos after 2 years new gen nanaman

and hindi naman ganon kalayo ang facelift sa first release, e.g. honda ek 96 and the 99 release.. bumpers and lights lang, same sa es releases.

[Bravoexo]

Still don't see or encounter that many Civic '06 on the road....I see more 3's and Fortuners though....

[jazon]

its very hard to decide.... mazda 3 or civic...

ok na ba resale value ng mazda 3?

[niky]

The Mazda3's resale value is at least average. Not as good as Toyota or Honda resale values, but at least not in Nissan's league anymore.

[number001]

Rule of the thumb, when it comes to resale values, the Civic is the winner in comparison to a Mazda3.

[mazdamazda]

Rule of the thumb, when it comes to resale values, the Civic is the winner in comparison to a Mazda3.

Are you sure about that?

2005 Honda Civic P575K
2005 Mazda3 P685K
2005 Mazda3 P698K

[parakitoJDM]

Are you sure about that?

2005 Honda Civic P575K
2005 Mazda3 P685K
2005 Mazda3 P698K

tutuo ba 'to? wow talagang redeemed na ang Mazda fm. their past. so its time to get another one! zoom zoom.

[aDD_L]

tutuo ba 'to? wow talagang redeemed na ang Mazda fm. their past. so its time to get another one! zoom zoom.

Parakito, get another one? Pasakay naman sa first 1 mo!

Sana nga ilabas nila sa Pinas yung mazda speed version ng 3.

[number001]

Are you sure about that?

2005 Honda Civic P575K
2005 Mazda3 P685K
2005 Mazda3 P698K

Whether or not the Mazda3 can trounce the Civic in resale value cannot be fully ascertained right now, but in five years time or so. But a hypothesis, based on historical prices dating to the 323 and EG or EK Civic, shows that the Civic is the likely winner.

About your price comparison, it is expected that ES Civic will have a bigger depreciation especially after the new FD Civic was just launched. Every model encounters a deeper dip when a new model comes out to replace it. The Mazda3 hasnt been replaced yet so it has a more consistent price depreciation. There is also the question of supply and demand. The ES Civic has been in the market since 2001 which is why it is abundant in supply and have very little demand so the price is reflected accordingly. The Mazda3 with its former waitlist status since 2004 has just normalized its supplies of units last year. It still has some "buzz" surrounding it so expect demand to be higher and it is priced accordingly.

[mazdamazda]

Whether or not the Mazda3 can trounce the Civic in resale value cannot be fully ascertained right now, but in five years time or so. But a hypothesis, based on historical prices dating to the 323 and EG or EK Civic, shows that the Civic is the likely winner.

Well... you were the one who stated that it is a "rule of thumb" that the Civic will have a higher resale value as compared to the Mazda3.

About your price comparison, it is expected that ES Civic will have a bigger depreciation especially after the new FD Civic was just launched. Every model encounters a deeper dip when a new model comes out to replace it.

Even if you factor in a 20% lower depreciation because of the new FD Civic, the ES Civic & Mazda3's depreciation is just at par with each other.

tutuo ba 'to? wow talagang redeemed na ang Mazda fm. their past. so its time to get another one! zoom zoom.

Those prices were taken from buyandsellph.

[niky]

Whether or not the Mazda3 can trounce the Civic in resale value cannot be fully ascertained right now, but in five years time or so. But a hypothesis, based on historical prices dating to the 323 and EG or EK Civic, shows that the Civic is the likely winner.

I'd say in five years time, it'll be relatively even.

You're making a mistake in basing this on the precedent of the 323 vs. the EK Civic.

The 323 was a competent car, but not competitive due to poor distribution and aftersales support due to the lack of a proper casa. As such, the lack of any visible commitment and long term plans by Mazda itself at the time sent 323 secondhand values into the basement.

The Civic was fully casa supported, riding on a reputation for longevity and quality due to relatively good aftersales service, large presence in the country, supported by a high volume of cars that were contracted never to become taxis. That last fact alone helped buoy Honda prices beyond belief... above that, even, of Toyota Corollas... which would have had a higher resale value if a large number of units had not been contracted out to be taxis.

Here, we have two relatively new cars, neither of which is in the price range for fleet taxi operators, and both of which are good looking and (hopefully) relatively reliable.

You are right that only five years can tell us whether the pricing trend will stay as it is, but as trim niggles are appearing in many new Honda products, while new Mazdas seem to be holding up pretty well (please don't mention airbags... ), this may change.

I'm putting my bets on an equal secondhand value for 2.0s, but a lower value for Mz3 1.6s versus Civic 1.8s.

[Karding]

Are you sure about that?

2005 Honda Civic P575K
2005 Mazda3 P685K
2005 Mazda3 P698K

I dont think its fair to compare the 2005 Mazda3 to the 2005 Civic. We need to put into consideration that there is an all new model for Civic. Hence, the resale value is low. Because there is now an ALL NEW CIVIC kaya mababa resale ng 2005 Civic. Mazda3 doesnt have an ALL NEW model for 2006 kaya resale value is still holding up.

Private Party prices for 2005 Civic is low because they may be trying to get rid of it to upgrade to the new look of 2006.

The same thing goes for CASA, they need to get rid of used 2005 on the lot due to buyers looking to get the 2006 as opposed to 2005 model.

How about we compare the previous generation models of both cars before their current gen?

2006 Civic Depreciation
Year 1 $3,636
Year 2 $1,972
Year 3 $1,735
Year 4 $1,537
Year 5 $1,380
5-year total: $10,260

2006 Mazda3 Depreciation
Year 1 $4,404
Year 2 $1,961
Year 3 $1,725
Year 4 $1,530
Year 5 $1,372
5-year total: $10,992

Statistics based on Edmunds.com TCO (True Cost to Own)
According to Edmunds, Mazda3 depreciates faster than Honda Civic (both models 2006)

[parakitoJDM]

I dont think its fair to compare the 2005 Mazda3 to the 2005 Civic. We need to put into consideration that there is an all new model for Civic. Hence, the resale value is low. Because there is now an ALL NEW CIVIC kaya mababa resale ng 2005 Civic. Mazda3 doesnt have an ALL NEW model for 2006 kaya resale value is still holding up.

Private Party prices for 2005 Civic is low because they may be trying to get rid of it to upgrade to the new look of 2006.

The same thing goes for CASA, they need to get rid of used 2005 on the lot due to buyers looking to get the 2006 as opposed to 2005 model.

How about we compare the previous generation models of both cars before their current gen?

2006 Civic Depreciation
Year 1 $3,636
Year 2 $1,972
Year 3 $1,735
Year 4 $1,537
Year 5 $1,380
5-year total: $10,260

2006 Mazda3 Depreciation
Year 1 $4,404
Year 2 $1,961
Year 3 $1,725
Year 4 $1,530
Year 5 $1,372
5-year total: $10,992

Statistics based on Edmunds.com TCO (True Cost to Own)
According to Edmunds, Mazda3 depreciates faster than Honda Civic (both models 2006)

haven't checked this out. but accdg to the same source the - Edmunds Mazda 3 is still the top car to beat. and even the newer 2006Civic still ranks lower than MZ3. Beat that!

[Karding]

haven't checked this out. but accdg to the same source the - Edmunds Mazda 3 is still the top car to beat. and even the newer 2006Civic still ranks lower than MZ3. Beat that!

top car to beat according to this article?
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/pdf/..._eprint_vs.pdf

yeah, I've read that in 2005 when I still had my MZ3.

When we were convinced both cars were capable of the mundane tasks everyone would ask of them, we went to the track and did things no one will ever do in these slushbox-equipped economy cars. Brake-smoking stops, cone-crushing slalom passes and not-so-blistering acceleration runs through the quarter-mile were de rigueur. And when we were done, a clear winner was obvious.

yes, Mazda3 is a clear winner for people taking it to the track as stated above.

now, lets talk about the depreciation cost :evillaugh

[slamtaz]

top car to beat according to this article?
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/pdf/..._eprint_vs.pdf

yeah, I've read that in 2005 when I still had my MZ3.



yes, Mazda3 is a clear winner for people taking it to the track as stated above.

now, lets talk about the depreciation cost :evillaugh

i certainly agree, i believe that the greater majority of cars sold in the market are used for regular everyday commute and not for daredevil spirit type of driving... although there are a lot of car enthusiasts amongst us & having a rally bred car definitely gives some bragging rights, imo, only a small percentage will actually behave like we're in a slalom race on our daily commute while the rest, well.. i believe they will continue to drive defensively, enjoy the comfort &/or prestige of their respective rides and try to prolong & preserve the value of their investment..

[parakitoJDM]

top car to beat according to this article?
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/pdf/..._eprint_vs.pdf

yeah, I've read that in 2005 when I still had my MZ3.



yes, Mazda3 is a clear winner for people taking it to the track as stated above.

now, lets talk about the depreciation cost :evillaugh

Okay accdg. to Edmunds as u already quoted, the depreciation difference after 5years is not that big a deal for me. i'm more interested in the GRIN Factor the car will put a smile in my face :D
see facts below, infact the older MZ3 still wins consumer rating though with a small margin. and the 2007 MZ3 will just get even better and better. whereas the front fascia of the USDM Civic is really uninspiring. i'm tempted to call it fugly, but that's the Civic we have here in Shenzhen....


[Consumer Rating: 9.4]
Total Cash Price $20,201
2006 Mazda MAZDA3: Reviews & Specs
s Touring 4dr Sedan (2.3L 4cyl 5M)
Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5 5-yr Total
Depreciation $4,822 $1,943 $1,710 $1,516 $1,360 $11,351


[Consumer Rating: 9.3]
Total Cash Price $19,987
2006 Honda Civic: Reviews & Specs
EX 4dr Sedan (1.8L 4cyl 5M)
Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5 5-yr Total
Depreciation $3,525 $1,879 $1,655 $1,466 $1,316 $9,841

[mackieboy]

hehehe.. kala ko tapos na itong civic v mazda3.. hindi papala mamatay matay

[McQueen]

IMO, in terms of styling, i really really like the Mazda 3 better. mas malakas padin ang dating nya kahit 2004 pa linabas ang mz3. although may "wow factor" din yung civic considering it is new and 3 months old pa lang yan dito sa 'pinas. the mazda 3 has a sportier look inside and out than the 06 civic. yung civic kasi para lang city na pinalaki. the body is too huge for a sedan to have a sloping front end. parang wala na yung masculinity dahil wala ng natirang hood.