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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    Appraently, for "most" buyers, they dont care. Bottom line is cost.
    Let's go back a little bit and apply eon and alto as an example. Those cars aint safe based on ncap. Still many buy these cars.

    As for me, i own a mirage (hb), and know most of its dark secret so i know this is a city car only and that's it.

    Family owns 2 vios 3rd gen and i know and feel that they are def above the mirage.

    Bottom line, price is king. If buyer only has a certain amount of money, they will get what is the most affordable that checks majority of their requirement. Unfortunately, we pinoys are not there yet in terms of safety awareness.




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    685k vios vs 666k g4



    price is king statement doesnt make sense at all...

    so many cons for the g4...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    685k vios vs 666k g4



    price is king statement doesnt make sense at all...

    so many cons for the g4...
    Bro. Mitsu is known to br very generous on discounts.
    If sticker pice comparo, yes, it is close, but if real world setup, mitsu will give huge discounts.

    So assuming you get a very conservative 40k discount, that is already at least 59k savings on the buyers part.
    At this segment, medyo cut troat ang competition since target audience is those starter or has not have much savings yet.
    60k can be diverted to another urgent need or investment or anything else.

    The new vios doesnt have discount yet cause it is new. But maybe revisiting it sometime later would yield a different conclusion (when discounts are already there).

    Eitherway, im still holding on my segement per segment bang for buck list (it is my opinion anyway and doesnt enforce it to others).


    Oh.. and btw, gas cost pa nga pala. Hehehe.
    Im hoping that the new vios has improved mileage compared to 3rd gen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    Bro. Mitsu is known to br very generous on discounts.
    If sticker pice comparo, yes, it is close, but if real world setup, mitsu will give huge discounts.

    So assuming you get a very conservative 40k discount, that is already at least 59k savings on the buyers part.
    At this segment, medyo cut troat ang competition since target audience is those starter or has not have much savings yet.
    60k can be diverted to another urgent need or investment or anything else.

    The new vios doesnt have discount yet cause it is new. But maybe revisiting it sometime later would yield a different conclusion (when discounts are already there).

    Eitherway, im still holding on my segement per segment bang for buck list (it is my opinion anyway and doesnt enforce it to others).


    Oh.. and btw, gas cost pa nga pala. Hehehe.
    Im hoping that the new vios has improved mileage compared to 3rd gen.

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    Same engine, smaller shell vs 3rd gen Vios.

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    2019 Mirage G4 GLS CVT(new version) will have a new price: 867,000 from previously 767,000.

    new variant G4 GLS MT will be 812,000

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    seems like there are more reasons not to buy the g4 in 2019.

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    "13. steering mounted audio controls."

    Based sa Vios XE ad na ito, may interior pix, mukhang wala naman?

    https://www.o l x.ph/item/vios-13-xe-cvt-as-low-as-55k-allin-dp-ID8IBhK.html?h=deeb901581

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    685k vios vs 666k g4



    price is king statement doesnt make sense at all...

    so many cons for the g4...
    Considering the cost of maintaining a vios..its cheaper to operate aG4

    Less oil..less fuel (lighter engine)..no steering fluid

    Panis yang vios mo


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    Last edited by kisshmet; January 19th, 2019 at 10:52 AM.

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    let us wait and see how buyers will vote... with their pocketbooks.
    showroom prices can be "manipulated".
    from time to time, toyota does have its "moments".
    my wild guess is, the xe will not sell as good as toyota expects. the base model will still sell better.
    Last edited by dr. d; January 19th, 2019 at 11:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    let us wait and see how buyers will vote... with their pocketbooks.
    showroom prices can be "manipulated".
    from time to time, toyota does have its "moments".
    my wild guess is, the xe will not sell as good as toyota expects. the base model will still sell better.
    This.

    As for reliability, I think most of the major brands have similar levels of reliability right now.

    Given the market share of each brand, it will be interesting to know what percentage of the car sold bogs down with major issues in the first 3 or 5 years (or say 100K kms of its use).

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    The Mitsubishi Mirage Is the Worst New Car You Can Buy - YouTube

    Wouldn't buy a vios (bad experience with the 1st gen) but between the two, the vios is objectively better.

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