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    In the US, how do Lincoln and Cadillac measure up to each other? They're supposedly the luxo-brands of Ford and GM right?

    Ala BMW vs. Mercedes-Benz ba ang rivalry nila, and if so who ranks better, at least in the American's hearts?

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    Cadillac, definitely. They have better market penetration and more stand-out products.

    Lincoln has only had one or two really good cars (read: the Lincoln LS) but true to Ford of America form, they never utilized the car to its fullest potential. Like the Taurus, it was a potential hit product saddled by poor development by Ford.

    Errh... how good was the Lincoln LS? The same basic architecture is used in the Jaguar S-Type and the new Ford Mustang. And yet the LS suffered from poor market exposure, underpowered engine choices, and bland styling. It could have been a BMW-fighter, but it wasn't. Sadly, the LS's replacement, the Zephyr, is another step down, being based on a FWD platform (albeit a good one).

    Their other products, the ancient Town Car and the Navigator, have only ever been so-so on the market. The Town Car is actually excellent for what it is... a soft riding limo that a lot of company execs prefer to the ultra-stiff German luxury sedans, but it's only a matter of time before sheer age kills it completely.

    The Navigator (A Ford Expedition plus kit) is nice, but it really can't compete with the Escalade in terms of bling.

    Cadillac, on the other hand, hit it big with the Escalade (merely a Chevrolet Tahoe in drag), as it had just the right looks, the right price and the right amount of exclusivity to capture the urban youth market. And since rap stars all wanted one, lots of other people wanted it too.

    Cadillac's new sedans are also a big improvement over their predecessors. The CTS is especially good... for a Cadillac. Cadillac didn't follow Lincoln's example with the LS... they poured enough money and engines into the CTS to make it a credible threat to BMW's uber-sedans. And it almost is.

    In comparison to BMW and Mercedes, Cadillac is still a step behind in terms of interior quality and exclusivity. But Caddy is cheaper... and "blinging".

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    at the moment, cadillac has the upper hand. ganda tsaka bilis ng V-Series ng cadillac...pero ipon pa ako ng pera.

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    Not to mention the XLR - potential SL fighter!

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    wow Cadillac Escalade. i will only buy a Cadillac Escalade if I can already afford to buy a 5 story building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slicker_boi
    Not to mention the XLR - potential SL fighter!
    Oo nga, gusto ko yan, with fuzzy dice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    Sadly, the LS's replacement, the Zephyr, is another step down, being based on a FWD platform (albeit a good one).

    Their other products, the ancient Town Car and the Navigator, have only ever been so-so on the market. The Town Car is actually excellent for what it is... a soft riding limo that a lot of company execs prefer to the ultra-stiff German luxury sedans, but it's only a matter of time before sheer age kills it completely.
    Update: the Zephyr which is now called the MKZ (powered by a 250hp Duratec35) replaces the V6 Lincoln LS which is no longer in the 2006 lineup. Its also available with AWD.
    Lincoln MKZ (Mark Z)

    The MKZ is based on Ford's CD3 platform, which is an updated and enlarged version of the Mazda 6 platform.

    The V8 LS will be replaced by the MKS an AWD sedan based on Ford's D3 platform(derived from Volvo's P2 platform) and powered by a 315hp 4.4 liter Volvo-Yamaha V8.
    Lincoln MKS

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    Hmmm may Hofmeister kink nanaman...

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    it's basically Ford vs. Chevy (GM) in a different income bracket. :D

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    Lincoln's new crossover SUV which will eventually replace the Aviator...
    The Lincoln MKX (Mark X)

    The MKX is shares its CD3 derived platform with the Ford Edge and Mazda CX-7.

    Btw, this is the new facelifted Lincoln Navigator.

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