are honda crv and toyota fortuner incomparable

[HOLLOWMAN]

Still hasn't gotten a ride yet. our options now are crv and fortuner. i really like the fortuner kaso sabi matagtag. cRv naman, kulang sa pogi points. Paki compare naman and give suggestions...para makapgdecide na. salamat in advance

[pixelparadigm]

One is good looking while the other is better and practical at everything else.

[mbt]

medyo incomparable nga. choose the one that suits your needs better, or choose the one that tugs at your heart more.

CR-V is much smaller and is a car. that means it's more fragile but it's faster, qucker, more fuel efficient, more maneuvarable, easier to drive, easier to park, etc.

Fortuner is larger and more stylish and is truck-tough. unfortunately, that also means that it drives as clumsily as a truck, especially in comparison to a car-based CR-V.

[niky]

What MBT means by fragile is that it won't last long off-road, by the way. But it's tough enough for everyday use. If accidents are a concern, the CRV is probably safer, too, with an NHSTA and Euro compliant crash structure.
But for economy, if you can accept the ride of the Fortuner, the 2.5 diesel is a good combination of power and economy. Read the D4D woes thread before deciding, though.

[vicoyski]

What MBT means by fragile is that it won't last long off-road, by the way. But it's tough enough for everyday use. If accidents are a concern, the CRV is probably safer, too, with an NHSTA and Euro compliant crash structure.
But for economy, if you can accept the ride of the Fortuner, the 2.5 diesel is a good combination of power and economy. Read the D4D woes thread before deciding, though.

I own both a CRV (Gen2, 2003) and a Fortuner... The Fortuner's ride is a lot better. But, the current Gen2 CRVs now have a better suspension, I believe.

Kaya lang, I wouldn't agree that, if accidents are a concern, the CRV would be safer... The Fortuner, is a lot higher, larger and is indeed a lot stiffer (because of the ladder-frame) than the CRV. For those very reasons I feel safer that I would survive a crash with another vehicle in the Fortuner than in a CRV. A car hitting the CRV would cause more damage that would extend into the cabin compared to the same car hitting a Fortuner. Besides, the size of the Fortuner is so imposing that any driver in a car would think twice before messing with it.

[HOLLOWMAN]

Di kaya may bagong lalabas na design ng CRV next year? Baka bibili ako ngayon tapos next year mukhang luma na kase iba na design. Unlike these past years na kahit iba ibang year model, mostly alike pa rin sila.

[number001]

Di kaya may bagong lalabas na design ng CRV next year? Baka bibili ako ngayon tapos next year mukhang luma na kase iba na design. Unlike these past years na kahit iba ibang year model, mostly alike pa rin sila.

Baka pa nga this year in the US meron ng bagong design yung CRV. Wait by this fall/winter. But it will take at least 6 months to 9 months to reach our shores. If its looks as nice as a Fortuner, expect another stupid waiting-list-game-with-the -dealers to repeat itself. There is nothing wrong with buying the CRV now, in fact it is best to buy a vehicle after it just had a mid-life facelift. They would have ironed out most of the kinks already, unlike a new model which would still need its teeth to be cut.

[niky]

Well that depends on what you value. Ganyan lang yung car market. The guy who buys after you will have a fresher looking car, but after another year or two, it'll also be old.
I don't mind, personally... kaya bumili ako ng lynx kahit luma na ang itsura... it still gives me as much enjoyment as a newer car would.
Besides, if a facelift is coming, then it's a good time for bargain hunting.

[number001]

Still hasn't gotten a ride yet. our options now are crv and fortuner. i really like the fortuner kaso sabi matagtag. cRv naman, kulang sa pogi points. Paki compare naman and give suggestions...para makapgdecide na. salamat in advance

In terms of ride bumpiness or "tagtag", I have ridden on both vehicles and to me they are almost alike (in terms of bumpiness).

The only thing nice with the CRV is that it is readily available NOW and its price is reasonable.

[beebs]

hollowman, i own a fortuner 2.7 vvti. ok siya kasi ang lakas humatak ng makina. may third row seats pa unlike the crv. i get around 7.5 to 8 km/liter. sulit talaga.

[niky]

Matagtag nga yung 2003 because of the AUV ruling. Those CRVs have stiffer springs to deal with the extra passengers. The new ones ride softer.

And as for crash protection, the CRV unibody is built to strict crash protection standards, thus it's probably safer. One of the reasons the Fortuner is relatively cheap is that it is built for ASEAN consumption only, thus the crash structure doesn't have to be so extensively engineered, translating to lower development costs.

A Body-on-frame doesn't necessarily translate to a stiffer structure or better crash survivability, though the frame itself might survive, the survivability of the passengers is completely dependent on the structural stiffness of the body, not the frame. In a unibody, the body is designed to give way in non-critical areas (engine compartment and trunk) to absorb impact and stay stiff in critical areas to protect the passengers. An SUV's frame stays in one piece but transmits more of that force to the passenger cell... and the higher weight compared to smaller cars means there's more force and inertia to transmit. That's why some US-market SUVs have a hard time passing crash tests.

In the end, there are safe and unsafe ladder-frame vehicles, and safe and unsafe unibodies... and whether you believe the unibody or the body-on-frame is better, the CRV still meets crash standards the Fortuner is not designed to address.

There's a reason they don't sell them in Japan or the US. ...yet... if they do export them to Japanese or European markets, I expect they'll modify them to meet the crash standards there.

[mbt]

re: crash safety, true that the CR-V gets top barrier crash test scores (probably better than the Fortuner would if the Fortuner were tested), but in a real-world crash, the Fortuner would have the upper hand IF it crashed into another large SUV or a smaller vehicle. weight counts.

a CR-V crashing head-on into a Fortuner is toast. hehe.

that said, personally, between a Fortuner 4x2 and an AWD 2.4-liter CR-V, i just might go for the CR-V. better yet, i'll take a FWD RAV4. the car-based SUVs work much better in the city than the Fortuner (and without 4x4, the Fortuner will be stuck in the city anyway).

[vicoyski]

...a CR-V crashing head-on into a Fortuner is toast. hehe.

Exactly... But, I wouldn't test crash my CRV or my Fortuner just to find out...

[nugundam93]

+1 on t3h crash test! joke lang po. :D

true, depende sa needs niyo.

[niky]

Don't rush to conclusions about crashes and ladder-frames versus unibodies in a head-on collision...


Granted, this is against a stationary barrier, and the new F150 has finally aced this test... but the point is, the more mass you have, the more momentum you carry into a crash, and the more likely someone is going to die, whether it be you, a passenger, or the poor schmoe driving the Kia Pride you've just hit.

And against a truck, all bets are off... just look at the NLEX disaster a few months ago.

Granted, the Fortuner is a new vehicle... so in this case... I'd say crash protection is probably just marginally less than the CRV. Of course, the Fortuner itself will probably survive minor collisions better than the CRV.

Like I said, the frame itself is very strong, but the integrity of the body on the frame is what's in question in a crash, and those are two entirely different things. The frame itself won't protect you from a crash, because it's under the vehicle, it's the body that counts.

[stormrider]

Hollowman, what's your buying criteria anyway?

[HOLLOWMAN]

Hollowman, what's your buying criteria anyway?

comfortable, nice suspension, high resale value, di nakakahilo pag sinakyan, pogi points kaya nga torn ako between the two kase di makuha sa isa ang gusto ko. May pajero 2003 black na ako. Medyo matagtag at maingay ang interior. Kakairita. Lam ko CRV di ganun. I drove my mom's crv ok naman. kaso walang pogi points and very common na.

[mazdamazda]

comfortable, nice suspension, high resale value, di nakakahilo pag sinakyan, pogi points kaya nga torn ako between the two kase di makuha sa isa ang gusto ko. May pajero 2003 black na ako. Medyo matagtag at maingay ang interior. Kakairita. Lam ko CRV di ganun. I drove my mom's crv ok naman. kaso walang pogi points and very common na.

the new Rav4 or Sorento might be what you are looking for...

[stormrider]

comfortable, nice suspension, high resale value, di nakakahilo pag sinakyan, pogi points kaya nga torn ako between the two kase di makuha sa isa ang gusto ko. May pajero 2003 black na ako. Medyo matagtag at maingay ang interior. Kakairita. Lam ko CRV di ganun. I drove my mom's crv ok naman. kaso walang pogi points and very common na.

The Fortuner will give you the same ride as a Pajero or Patrol.

You're better off with the CRV. If that's too common, there's the X-Trail, the Escape and the Tribute (4x2 only).

[HOLLOWMAN]

medyo maingay din ba interior ng fortuner?